scotty2hotty Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Agreed . Nicholls kept a straight line to the bend , while Holta turned in on him in an effort to get a better angle for entering the bend . The only decision should have been all 4 back . To exclude Nicholls was totally baffling to everyone , apart from the Hungarian referee and a certain Mongol warrior . Agreed, I fear that even if the roles were reversed, the 'certain mongol warrior' would still have excluded Nicholls!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Agreed, I fear that even if the roles were reversed, the 'certain mongol warrior' would still have excluded Nicholls!! No, either way I'd probably have called all 4 back. But if the situation were reversed and an exclusion were required, I'd have excluded Holta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Any betting that it will be another nine years before this ref gets to be in control of another Grand Prix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 No, either way I'd probably have called all 4 back. But if the situation were reversed and an exclusion were required, I'd have excluded Holta. But he is Polish Sub, are you feeling alright?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 But he is Polish Sub, are you feeling alright?!!! He's not really , he's only kidding on he's Polish . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 But he is Polish Sub, are you feeling alright?!!! Yes, I'm fine. Cast your mind back to Cardiff - rider on the inside makes the start, moves out and clips a rider moving in. Result, uproar as the inside rider is excluded, twice. Now, malilla rider on the inside makes the start moves out a little a clips a rider who was pointing inwards from the get go. result, furore when the outside rider is excluded. Once again, I am constant as the Northern Star, while all about me wriggle and squirm. Anyway, the exclusion was good news for the global superstar - he can complain bitterly about the perceived injustice of the whole thing, rather than address a sixty-fourth failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 (edited) Yes, I'm fine. Cast your mind back to Cardiff - rider on the inside makes the start, moves out and clips a rider moving in. Result, uproar as the inside rider is excluded, twice. Now, malilla rider on the inside makes the start moves out a little a clips a rider who was pointing inwards from the get go. result, furore when the outside rider is excluded. Once again, I am constant as the Northern Star, while all about me wriggle and squirm. Anyway, the exclusion was good news for the global superstar - he can complain bitterly about the perceived injustice of the whole thing, rather than address a sixty-fourth failure. Slightly different Sub as they were actually on the bend at Cardiff twice, they hadn't even hit the 30 yard marker with this one. 99 times out of a hundred this would have been all four back. I am not suggesting Holta should have been excluded, it should have been all four back, but if anyone had to be excluded it should have been Holta. Edited August 16, 2008 by scotty2hotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Slightly different Sub as they were actually on the bend at Cardiff twice, they hadn't even hit the 30 yard marker with this one. 99 times out of a hundred this would have been all four back. And this one time out of a hundred it wasn't called as all 4 back and in the circumstances, if an exclusion is going to happen, the right rider was excluded. The global superstar was pointing in such a way that he was heading into the line of the rider off gate 1. He hoped no doubt to bully Holta into conceding the first turn to him, but Holta was having none of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 And this one time out of a hundred it wasn't called as all 4 back and in the circumstances, if an exclusion is going to happen, the right rider was excluded. The global superstar was pointing in such a way that he was heading into the line of the rider off gate 1. He hoped no doubt to bully Holta into conceding the first turn to him, but Holta was having none of it. Well I think we will have to agree to differ on that one then Sub, as I know you like to have controversial views on 'the global superstar''the beggar''the former British Champion'. Whatever are you going to do next year if he is not in the GPs, who will be your next intended victim?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietbowers Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Well I think we will have to agree to differ on that one then Sub, as I know you like to have controversial views on 'the global superstar''the beggar''the former British Champion'. Whatever are you going to do next year if he is not in the GPs, who will be your next intended victim?!! I think he may have a few in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From PC to KC. Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Also, what are the implications if Scott or Chris do not qualify for next years GP's, and they are not invited as wild cards etc what effect will that have on the crowd turnout at Cardiff. Will it make a difference or if so will that not only affect IMG but the general atmosphere as an event in GB? No chance of either one of them ever being World Champion. So if they are not involved as regular competitors and only one of them as a wild card in Cardiff, it shouldn't affect the crowd too much. Cue loads of you saying i won't go now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) Sorry Mate. Pc To Kc. I thought I was in the wrong thread (don't they all seem to blend, like the GP's themselves ..) and reposted in another thread. Edit: Whilst I am here, I go along with the view that to exclude Nicholls was wrong. He was not pointing left at all and anyone who could not see that Holta did not turn right had sh$t in their eyes. Well done Hans - you deserved the win tonight ! Agreed. Edited August 17, 2008 by Squire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 True Jacques he was, but had he won that, which was possible given his opponents we're just as much so 7 with a win would,ve put in a possible semi place given what Tomek did. Chris as well was truly inept & just looking at him racing he seemed so tense & upright on the bike compared with the rest. Well done to our new star, Hans Norgaard Andersen. The guys manner is so much more relaxed now he's got the monkey off his back. Who is Tomek? Sorry, you have lost me there! Well done Hans - you deserved the win tonight ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Who is Tomek? Sorry, you have lost me there! Well done Hans - you deserved the win tonight ! Tomek is the popular nickname of Tomasz Gollob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 WELL its nice the brits work together in the GPS!! What was Chris H arris doing in holtas pits helping him with his bike after the clash?!! ALSO IN THE RACE WITH Scott, Harris looked for Scott for 2 laps forgetting all about KK and letting him through!! WORK TOGETHER LADS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) A stone wall 'all four back' if ever there was one. I don't think we shall be seeing that referee on the GP circuit again. A great GP however on a proper speedway track for once. Thank God it rained to provide some grip otherwise we may well have had a typically slick Ole Olsen track with little passing. And well done Leigh Adams, a worthy winner. Edited August 17, 2008 by Bagpuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Always good to hear that you are carefully following the GP series It's speedway, I love speedway and of course want to get my money's worth out of SKY every month Funny you say that though because I didn't watch the last GP at all and I only really watched bits of this one, I continue to maintain that there are tooooooooo many of them to make each one compulsive viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 It's speedway, I love speedway and of course want to get my money's worth out of SKY every month Funny you say that though because I didn't watch the last GP at all and I only really watched bits of this one, I continue to maintain that there are tooooooooo many of them to make each one compulsive viewing. In Formula One Grand Prix racing there's one GP at least every two weeks. The same in many other motorcycle GPs. They are designed to create interest in the country where they are staged as well as providing an on-going championship. Why, then, are there too many GPs in speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) I must be in the minority i think he got it right.. Nicholls was pointing into Holta's lane and was in the inside before getting to the no longer used white line and they therefore clashed.. However i think all 4 back should have been called. Your right right about being in the minority. Agreed. Typical Ah well, did you know that Tomasz Gollob scored as many wins in Ht 18 tonight as your beloved global superstar has managed in - count them - 37 GP races this season? Scotty never has and probably never will be a GP star,but is a better team player at league level. No, either way I'd probably have called all 4 back. But if the situation were reversed and an exclusion were required, I'd have excluded Holta. Easy to say that when it did'nt happen For what its worth,the only decision should of been all four back. Edited August 17, 2008 by hyderd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 (edited) WELL its nice the brits work together in the GPS!! What was Chris H arris doing in holtas pits helping him with his bike after the clash?!! ALSO IN THE RACE WITH Scott, Harris looked for Scott for 2 laps forgetting all about KK and letting him through!! WORK TOGETHER LADS what you mean like hans and nicki do!! its a gp, they're not meant to work together! they should be good enough to do it on their own, not have to hold each other's hand. Edited August 17, 2008 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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