Ice Racing 2009

[Conkers]

World Championship QR Sanok, Day 1

 

Finishing Order

1. Yunir Baseev (Rus) - (3,3,3,2,3) 14

2. Per Olof Serenius (S) - (3,3,2,3,3) 14

3. Antonin Klatovsky (CzR) - (1,2,3,3,3) 12

4. Paveł Tschajka (Rus) - (1,3,3,3,2) 12

5. Per Anders Lindstrom (S) - (2,2,2,3,2) 11

6. Johnny Tuinstra (NL) - (2,1,2,2,3) 10

7. Kai Lehtinen (SF) - (w,2,3,2,1) 8

8. Jouni Seppanen (SF) - (1,3,1,1,0) 6

9. Martin Leitner (A) - (3,1,1,d,1) 6

10. Henri Malinen (SF) - (2,1,1,0,2) 6

11. Mario Schwaiger (A) - (3,0,1,0,1) 5

12. Stefan Pletschacher (D) - (0,w,2,1,2) 5

13. Jan Pecina (CzR) - (0,2,0,2,0) 4

14. Oleg Dosaev (Ukr) - (2,w,d,1,0) 3

15. Michał Widera (Pl) - (1,1,0,1,d) 3

16. Zdzisław Żerdziński (Pl) - (0,0,0,0,w) 0

17. Mirosław Daniszewski (Pl) - NS

 

 

Heats

1. Serenius, Tuinstra, Tschajka, Pecina

2. Schwaiger, Dosaev, Widera, Lehtinen (u/w)

3. Baseev, Lindstrom, Klatovsky, Pletschacher

4. Leitner, Malinen, Seppanen, Żerdziński

5. Seppanen, Pecina, Widera, Pletschacher (u/w)

6. Baseev, Lehtinen, Tuinstra, Żerdziński

7. Tschajka, Lindstrom, Malinen, Dosaev (u/w)

8. Serenius, Klatovsky, Leitner, Schwaiger

9. Lehtinen, Lindstrom, Leitner, Pecina

10. Klatovsky, Tuinstra, Malinen, Widera

11. Tschajka, Pletschacher, Schwaiger, Żerdziński

12. Baseev, Serenius, Seppanen, Dosaev

13. Klatovsky, Pecina, Dosaev, Żerdziński

14. Lindstrom, Tuinstra, Seppanen, Schwaiger

15. Tschajka, Baseev, Widera, Leitner

16. Serenius, Lehtinen, Pletschacher, Malinen

17. Baseev, Malinen, Schwaiger, Pecina

18. Tuinstra, Pletschacher, Leitner, Dosaev

19. Klatovsky, Tschajka, Lehtinen, Seppanen

20. Serenius, Lindstrom, Widera , Żerdziński

 

 

Results from http://live.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel2.htm

 

Got to give it to Posa - 61 in March and still mixing it!

I do think whoever is nominated by the Poles as their "Seeded" rider is really going to struggle though.

[DutchGrasstrack]

Good score from Johnny Tuinstra .

 

Any info about the Polish nomination? Is it possible that the Polish Federation select Grzegorz Knapp (if he's fit) for the GP's? As he's quite the best Pole, might be able to score a few points, the others will realy struggle I guess .

[f-s-p]

Good score from Johnny Tuinstra .

 

Any info about the Polish nomination? Is it possible that the Polish Federation select Grzegorz Knapp (if he's fit) for the GP's? As he's quite the best Pole, might be able to score a few points, the others will realy struggle I guess .

From where is this nomination info originating? I went through my FIM emails and riders allocation sheets and found nothing! There were 5+1 going through from the other two and Sanok should see 6 get a place in the GP.

[Conkers]

From where is this nomination info originating? I went through my FIM emails and riders allocation sheets and found nothing! There were 5+1 going through from the other two and Sanok should see 6 get a place in the GP.

 

Christian Weber wrote in Speedway Star on 17.1.09, "Only the top four from this [saalfelden] meeting are certain of a place in the finals, while the fifth has to wait until all three qualifiers are completed to learn if a rider from each of the nations that host either a qualifier or a final round, has made it through. If not, the fifth placed rider will lose his qualifying spot in favour of a seeded rider from the host nations."

I'm sure I read somewhere that this would happen when the fixtures were finally confirmed.

So if this is correct, Poland will get a slot in the Finals, as will the Netherlands if neither country has a rider in the top 5/6.

If you remember, they did it last year with Johnny Tuinstra when the KNMV had no representative, so they have set a precedent and the PZM could argue that they staged a QR, so they get a seeded rider.

But can they give it to Knapp if he hasn't ridden in a qualifying round? Otherwise they'll have a rider who is half a lap behind the rest whenever he races, as their choice may not be as experienced as Knapp.

 

 

[Jacqueline]

@f-s-p

 

If you look on the FIM rules for Iceracing you can find the following information:

 

"...Each FMNR of an Ice Racing World Championship meeting (Qualifying Rounds,

and Finals) is guaranteed at least one rider from its Federation in this meeting

and in all Finals. ...."

 

So also Poland will have a guarenteed place.

 

@Ian

There is no extra rule that the Federation only could seed a rider, who has taken part at the QR rounds, so I think they could seed any rider they want.

[f-s-p]

@f-s-p

 

If you look on the FIM rules for Iceracing you can find the following information:

 

"...Each FMNR of an Ice Racing World Championship meeting (Qualifying Rounds,

and Finals) is guaranteed at least one rider from its Federation in this meeting

and in all Finals. ...."

OK, thanks.

 

EDIT: I'm told Poland wont use their slot since Knapp is injured but there's still the NL slot to be seen during tonight. They've just started so a couple of hours still to go for us to know.

Edited January 26, 2009 by f-s-p

[DutchGrasstrack]

Looks like Johnny Tuinstra will reach the GP's on his own "powers" Go Johnny!! .

[Conkers]

World Championship QR Day 2, Sanok 26.1.2009

 

Scores (Day 1 + 2)

1. Yunir Baseev (Rus) - (3,3,3,2,3) 14 + (3,3,3,3,3) 15 = 29

2. Paveł Tschajka (Rus) - (1,3,3,3,2) 12 + (2,3,3,3,3) 14 = 26

3. Per Olof Serenius (S) - (3,3,2,3,3) 14 + (3,2,3,1,2) 11 = 25

4. Antonin Klatovsky (CzR) - (1,2,3,3,3) 12 + (2,3,2,2,2) 11 = 23

5. Johnny Tuinstra (NL) - (2,1,2,2,3) 10 + (3,3,1,3,2) 12 = 22

6. Kai Lehtinen (SF) - (w,2,3,2,1) 8 + (1,2,2,3,3) 11 = 19 +3

7. Per Anders Lindstrom (S) - (2,2,2,3,2) 11 + (3,2,d, 2,1) 8 = 19 +2

8. Stefan Pletschacher (D) - (0,w,2,1,2) 5 + (2,1,0,2,3) 8 = 13

9. Martin Leitner (A) - (3,1,1,d,1) 6 + (1,1,2,2,1) 7 = 13

10. Mario Schwaiger (A) - (3,0,1,0,1) 5 + (0,2,2,0,2) 6 = 11

11. Henri Malinen (SF) - (2,1,1,0,2) 6 + (0,0,3,1,1) 5 = 11

12. Jouni Seppanen (SF) - (1,3,1,1,0) 6 + (2,1,1,1,w) 5 = 11

13. Jan Pecina (CzR) - (0,2,0,2,0) 4 + (1,1,1,0,1) 4 = 8

14. Michał Widera (Pl) - (1,1,0,1,d) 3 + (1,0,0,0,0) 1 = 4

15. Oleg Dosaev (Ukr) - (2,w,d,1,0) 3 + NS = 3

16. Mirosław Daniszewski (Pl) - NS + (0,0,1,1,0) 2 = 2

17. Zdzisław Żerdziński (Pl) - (0,0,0,0,w) 0 + NS = 0

 

 

Heats (2nd Day)

21. Baseev, Tschajka, Lehtinen, Schwaiger

22. Serenius, Klatovsky, Leitner, Malinen

23. Tuinstra, Seppanen, Pecina, Daniszewski

24. Lindstrom, Pletschacher, Widera

25. Tschajka, Serenius, Pletschacher, Daniszewski

26. Tuinstra, Lehtinen, Leitner

27. Klatovsky, Schwaiger, Pecina, Widera

28. Baseev, Lindstrom, Seppanen, Malinen

29. Tschajka, Leitner, Pecina, Lindstrom

30. Serenius, Lehtinen, Seppanen, Widera

31. Malinen, Schwaiger, Daniszewski

32. Baseev, Klatovsky, Tuinstra, Pletschacher

33. Tschajka, Klatovsky, Seppanen

34. Lehtinen, Pletschacher, Malinen, Pecina

35. Tuinstra, Lindstrom, Serenius, Schwaiger

36. Baseev, Leitner, Daniszewski, Widera

37. Baseev, Serenius, Pecina

38. Lehtinen, Klatovsky, Lindstrom, Daniszewski

39. Pletschacher, Schwaiger, Leitner, Seppanen (u/w)

40. Tschajka, Tuinstra, Malinen, Widera

 

Run Off for 6th Place

41. Lehtinen, Lindstrom

 

Looks Johnny T made it by sheer guts

 

 

[DutchGrasstrack]

I think the Poles gave the seeded place back as they've just runned a run-off for the 6th place .

 

RESULTS:

 

1. Junir Bazeev RUS 14 + (3 3 3 3 3) 29

2. Pavel Tsjajka RUS 12 + (2 3 3 3 3) 26

3. Per Olov Serenius SWE 14 + (3 2 3 1 2) 25

4. Antonin Klatovsky CZ 12 (2 3 2 2 2) 23

5. Johnny Tuinstra NL 10 + (3 3 1 3 2) 22

6. Kai Lehtinen FIN 8 + (1 2 2 3 3) 19 +3

 

7. Per Anders Lindström SWE 11 + (3 2 X 2 1) 19 +2

8. Stefan Pletschacher GER 5 + (2 1 0 2 3) 13

9. Martin Leitner AUT 6 + (1 1 2 2 1) 13

10. Henri Malinen FIN 6 + (0 0 3 1 1) 11

11. Mario Schwaiger AUT 5 + (0 2 2 0 2) 11

12. Jouni Seppänen FIN 6 + (2 1 1 1 X) 11

13. Jan Pecina CZ 4 + (1 1 1 0 1) 8

14. Michal Widera POL 3 + (1 0 0 0 0) 4

15. Oleg Dosaev UKR 3 + (- - - - -) 3

16. Miroslaw Daniszewski POL 0 + (0 0 1 1 0) 2

17. Zdzislaw Zerdzinski POL 0 + (- - - - -) 0

[Conkers]

If that is the case, I make the 18 riders for the Finals are:

Franz Zorn (A)

Harald Simon (A)

Marcus Skabraut (A) (Res)

Antonin Klatovsky (CzR)

Gunter Bauer (D)

Johnny Tuinstra (NL)

Danil Ivanov (Rus)

Dmitri Khomitsevich (Rus)

Ivan Ivanov (Rus)

Nikolai Krasnikov (Rus)

Pavel Tschajka (Rus)

Vitali Khomitsevich (Rus)

Yunir Bazeev (Rus)

Per-Olof Serenius (S)

Stefan Svensson (S)

Antti Aakko (SF)

Kai Lehtinen (SF)

Tommy Flyktman (SF) (res)

 

Edit after checking Speedway.org

 

However, if the Poles do take their seeded spot then I think Lehtinen will be reserve and one of the other reserves will be out.

Edited January 26, 2009 by Conkers

[DutchGrasstrack]

Norwegian Ice Racing Challenge

21/03/2009

 

Swedish Riders are annouched:

* Per-Anders Lindstrøm (SWE)

* Peter Koij (SWE)

* Peter Jansson (SWE)

* Per Olov Serenius (SWE)

* Johan Lundkvist (SWE)

 

Lineup also includes: 2x Poland, 2x Germany, 1x The Netherlands, 1x UK, 1x CZ, 1x Finland, 1x Switzerland and 3 from Norway (I guess: Seatre, Skarpnord and Berglund).

 

http://www.speedwayshop.no/iceracing/

[f-s-p]

I think the Poles gave the seeded place back as they've just runned a run-off for the 6th place .

Leaving the rerun undone would have been the mother of all cöckups no matter what the poles would have wanted to do. But now the ballot is out and Finland has 2+1 riders in it. I think this was pretty huge from Lehtinen . Aakko has been in it for ages and has peaked already and Flyktman somehow seems to be gathering pace at the moment...

Edited January 27, 2009 by f-s-p

[Conkers]

Draw for World Ice Racing Championship Rounds 1 & 2, Krasnagorsk, 7th/8th Feb 2009:

 

1 Harald Simon (A)

2 Antonin Klatovsky (CzR)

3 Johnny Tuinstra (NL)

4 Dmitri Khomitsevich (Rus)

5 Gunter Bauer (D)

6 Ivan Ivanov (Rus)

7 Pavel Tschajka (Rus)

8 Vitali Khomitsevich (Rus)

9 Stefan Svensson (S)

10 Franz Zorn (A)

11 Nikolai Krasnikov (Rus)

12 Danil Ivanov (Rus)

13 Per-Olof Serenius (S)

14 Junir Baseev (Rus)

15 Antti Aakko (SF)

16 Kai Lehtinen (SF)

Reserves:

17 Marcus Skabraut (A)

18 Tommy Flyktman (SF)

 

In round 2, the reserves will replace the two lowest scorers, who in turn drop to reserve for that round.

[DutchGrasstrack]

Very, very bad news for The Netherlands in the Team Championship in Inzell this weekend.... Johnny Tuinstra has pulled out . He hit a wild pig during his trip to Sanok (Poland) and his van was quite damaged. At the moment he is still somewhere in Poland and he hope to be back home tonight. This means he has way to less time to get to get his bikes and van ready for Inzell.

 

Any info yet on the European Championship..?

[iris123]

Definitely a blow

 

Any translation of this then?

JT

 

And any info on who takes his place?

[Conkers]

Very, very bad news for The Netherlands in the Team Championship in Inzell this weekend.... Johnny Tuinstra has pulled out . He hit a wild pig during his trip to Sanok (Poland) and his van was quite damaged. At the moment he is still somewhere in Poland and he hope to be back home tonight. This means he has way to less time to get to get his bikes and van ready for Inzell.

 

Any info yet on the European Championship..?

 

There's no line up I can find for the weekend, but there are no Dutch riders shown in the listing on Speedway.org. (mind you they have been wrong before).

 

As for the replacement for JT, Rene Verhoef is the obvious choice, unless they want to take a chance on Van Der Steen? Or you could try and coax Bootsma out of retirement

Or would Thijs be free

 

[Jacqueline]

Until today the FIM has not send any more press release for Inzell which includes a change of Team Netherlands, maybe tomorrow we`ll receive an e-mail.....

 

And by the way you can follow Live-Updates from Inzell on http://www.speedway-forum.de/index.php?pag...13406#post13406

 

tomorrow, saturday and sunday.

 

 

[Conkers]

German Championship, Inzell 29.1.09

 

Line Up:

1. Franz Mayerbüchler

2. Marian Kreklau

3. Günther Bauer

4. Anton Zmaga (RUS)

5. Sebastian Gegenbauer

6. Stefan Pletschacher

7. Mario Schwaiger (A)

8. Johann Weber

9. Dmitri Tschatschin

10. Florian Fürst

11. Reinhard Greisel

12. Christoph Kirchner

13. Max Niedermaier

14. Anton Weber

15. Martin Posch (A)

16. Peter Mader

17. Karl Ebner (A)

 

[iris123]

Live updates also here in 20 mintues or so from Inzell

 

German Championship

[Jacqueline]

@Ian

This is the correct result from the german championship: (www.speedway-forum.de)

 

01. Günther Bauer (3,3,3,3,3) - 15

02. Max Niedermaier (3,3,3,3,2) - 14

03. Stefan Pletschacher (3,3,3,3,1) - 13

04. Dmitri Tschatschin (3,1,2,2,3) - 11

05. Sebastian Gegenbauer (0,2,3,2,3) - 10

06. Florian Fürst (2,2,2,1,2) - 9

07. Mario Schwaiger (2,2,1,2,2) - 9

08. Christoph Kirchner (1,1,2,3,0) - 7

09. Johann Weber (1,2,1,DSQ,3) - 7

10. Reinhard Greisel (0,1,2,2,2) - 7

11. Anton Zmaga (2,3,0,0,1) - 6

12. Anton Weber (2,1,0,1,0) 4

13. Franz Mayerbüchler (1,0,1,0,1) - 3

14. Marian Kreklau (0,0,1,1,1) - 3

15. Martin Posch (1,0,A,-,-) - 1

16. Karl Ebner (-,-,-,1,DSQ) - 1

17. Peter Mader (0,0,0,0,0) - 0

 

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