orion Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Just like Richardson 'couldn't be arsed' in 2003 when he won the thing, or in 2005 when he won the pairs with Adams? Selective memory is a great thing... Also he was not even suppose to in the event . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 My friend and I both went to the ELRC last night on leaving the stadium we spoke to a certain CVS of the BSPA regarding a refund of our money to say he was rude and arrogant was an understatement. If his attitude towards the fans is a reflection of the BSPA as a whole, then sadly it is no wonder that this once great sport is now struggling to attract new fans, sponsorship or to survive. Simply no refund now either use the ticket for another super 7 event or apply to the BSPA in writing at the end of October for a refund and it will be processed then according to CVS no refunds would be processed before the end of the season. I wonder if trading standards would be interested in this. Totally in agreement with Nobby here feel angry frustrated and ripped off, half a line up, no explanation from BSPA lets just draft in some lesser riders, take the money. I for one will not be at any more Super 7 events involving riders from the EL. It's simply a case of if the riders and the BSPA can't be bothered then neither can I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 My friend and I both went to the ELRC last night on leaving the stadium we spoke to a certain CVS of the BSPA regarding a refund of our money to say he was rude and arrogant was an understatement. If his attitude towards the fans is a reflection of the BSPA as a whole, then sadly it is no wonder that this once great sport is now struggling to attract new fans, sponsorship or to survive. Simply no refund now either use the ticket for another super 7 event or apply to the BSPA in writing at the end of October for a refund and it will be processed then according to CVS no refunds would be processed before the end of the season. I wonder if trading standards would be interested in this. Totally in agreement with Nobby here feel angry frustrated and ripped off, half a line up, no explanation from BSPA lets just draft in some lesser riders, take the money. I for one will not be at any more Super 7 events involving riders from the EL. It's simply a case of if the riders and the BSPA can't be bothered then neither can I. As everyone in Birminigham knows by now, CVS can be guaranteed to be acting and behaving "in the best interests of British Speedway" at all times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 As I said before, Matt Ford knows how to promote an individual event. Give it to him, or someone else that will bother to get the sponsorship etc.... Ah, somebody with a bit of sence at last!!. I still can't believe after the success of the 2004 World cup at Poole we haven't had a round since!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I still can't believe after the success of the 2004 World cup at Poole we haven't had a round since!!. Because Poole is a poor venue for spectators, and geographically awkward for most of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBBY Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 ok, thank you. much appreciated. Guess what....no one is even answering the phone at the BSPA today....oh what a shock....oh what a surprise....and on the BSPA news item on their website about last nights rain off it states that those who cannot attend the re-staged meeting (sometime in October !!) will be able to get a full refund................BUT ONLY AFTER THE MEETING HAS BEEN COMPLETED !!!! Why do we have to wait that long ?? Do they think that maybe those wanting a refund will change their mind and go to the re-staging. Do they actually think that many will turn up for this in October when it's almost guaranteed that most of the top riders will be pulling out for various reasons.....might as well change it to the Elite League Reserves Championship now !!! Or is it that they are hoping that many will forget to claim a refund or may lose the silly liitle stub of a ticket and not be able to claim a refund !!! Personally I think it's disgraceful to treat people in this way....If someone decides that they will not go then they deserve and have a right to a refund immediaitely. So far my mate who has driven to both Kings Lynn and Birmingham has forked out enough for petrol for wasted journey's and the other costs on top make it two expensive wastes of time and money.....I would have thought that the BSPA would consider things like this and act fairly and sensibly....they seem however hell bent on EARNING the bad reputation they have, and seem to be quite proud of it !!!! Poor Public Liason IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) Just like Richardson 'couldn't be arsed' in 2003 when he won the thing, or in 2005 when he won the pairs with Adams? Selective memory is a great thing... I'm well aware that Richardson won in 2003 at Coventry and, ironically, Jonsson was 2nd. One of the very few occasions when the pair of them have turned up to such an event! Wow, we have to go back 5 years, and a staging on their 'then' home track to find a year when they didn't foul all over British Speedway! Richardson has missed countless meetings over the years, including about half a dozen British Finals. Jonsson just picks and choses meetings as he always has done over the last 10 years. 12 points on a Tuesday, ill on a Wednesday, OK on Thursday, cat in at the vets on a Friday............. All this when they do bu**er all for a third of the year as well! Truly heroic sportsmen! Edited August 21, 2008 by CB252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) Sorry but is all this moaning justified Were all the riders Elite League Riders - Yes No where does it say the "Top Elite" league riders It is billed as "The Ekite League Riders Championship" & as far as I am aware it is an invitational event Do we suffer with rain offs in this country = YES always have & always will Have stadiums ever refunded money = not in my experience you get a re-admission ticket for the re-staging or certain other meetings. Basically you pays your money & take your chance Edited August 21, 2008 by sancho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm well aware that Richardson All this when they do bu**er all for a third of the year as well! Truly heroic sportsmen! How do you know that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBBY Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Sorry but is all this moaning justified Were all the riders Elite League Riders - Yes No where does it say the "Top Elite" league riders It is billed as "The Ekite League Riders Championship" & as far as I am aware it is an invitational event Do we suffer with rain offs in this country = YES always have & always will Have stadiums ever refunded money = not in my experience you get a re-admission ticket for the re-staging or certain other meetings. Basically you pays your money & take your chance Rubbish...if you cannot go to the restaging of the meeting you are entitled to a refund unless it says on the ticket 'NO REFUNDS POSSIBLE' which it doesn't. The fact is the BSPA can't be arsed to sort it out and are hoping that they won't have to !!! We all know meetings get called off and have to be re-staged, but when we purchase the tickets they have a date on them and that is what we are buying. If it has to be re-staged then a person has the right to say they are unable to attend and would like a refund. The BSPA need to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century and they need to start becoming a professional organisation in order to be taken seriously. Name me another sport that is run so poorly as UK speedway is at the moment !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 How do you know that ? A wild guess! They can hardly be bothered to work (in the UK) between March and October, so I doubt they toddle off and get full time jobs between November and February! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Stummings Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Have stadiums ever refunded money = not in my experience you get a re-admission ticket for the re-staging or certain other meetings. Basically you pays your money & take your chance Disagree. A British final at Coventry that was rained off in the late seventies/early eightes they refunded monies. It can be done on the night if "people power" is used, which I recall on this night in question it was. I suppose one problem is now at many tracks you can pay by your debit/credit card and we all know how long a refund can take on them! We do all know we take a chance going to a meeting if the weather is ify, basically as sancho say "you pay's your money and you take chance". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroBearBabe Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm well aware that Richardson won in 2003 at Coventry and, ironically, Jonsson was 2nd. Excellent. So even though you knew, basically you were just exaggerating for effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsimpson Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 those who cannot attend the re-staged meeting (sometime in October !!) will be able to get a full refund................BUT ONLY AFTER THE MEETING HAS BEEN COMPLETED !!!! ....unless it says on the ticket 'NO REFUNDS POSSIBLE' which it doesn't. The fact is the BSPA can't be arsed to sort it out and are hoping that they won't have to !!! Don't see a major issue really. Most people who wanted to go to the meeting will still go anyway. The ones who can't/won't go can get a refund after the event. You can even wait for the event to see if you like the revised line up. A lot of admin to sort the refunds out to then take the money again. Its only £20 anyway and you were happy to spend it at the time so its not like its making you short of cash. I know where you are coming from on the principle of it, but blowing it out of proportion IMO just a tad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sir Lunchalot Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 It was going to be my last meeting before heading home to Oz and the lack of immediate refund does affect me and would make it a major issue for me if I wanted to take it further. I can't go to the restaging and doubt the BSPA would send me a refund in Australian dollars. I gave my ticket to a lovely chap from Coventry who I met (along with his even lovelier daughter) and I hope he gives it to a friend so my £20 doesn't get wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 A wild guess! They can hardly be bothered to work (in the UK) between March and October, so I doubt they toddle off and get full time jobs between November and February! Would you work if did not need to ? and no doubt you have never pulled a sickie at work before . As long as riders turn up for league matches i am not worried rather than some crap worthless singles event . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 But would Matt want to bother i his club isnt going to benefit from the profits. If it was an individual for either Poole or one of his rides m sure he wold do a brilliant job but why should he bother if the BSPA end up taking he mney bags at the end of the night?! You've either been spending too much time with SCB or your vowels aren't working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 You've either been spending too much time with SCB or your vowels aren't working. Rushing off to work Gem - bt yu knw wht i mnt!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I hadn't been to an ELRC for 20-years plus before last night's event. Although I suspected there would be withdrawals I must confess to being a bit taken aback by their number. Anyway, it got me thinking – my refund ticket is valid for the PLRC in Sheffield in September, is it not? As a general rule, how many of the advertised Prem stars turn up for the event (barring injury, of course)? Plus I've never been to the Sheffield track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 It was going to be my last meeting before heading home to Oz and the lack of immediate refund does affect me and would make it a major issue for me if I wanted to take it further. I can't go to the restaging and doubt the BSPA would send me a refund in Australian dollars. I gave my ticket to a lovely chap from Coventry who I met (along with his even lovelier daughter) and I hope he gives it to a friend so my £20 doesn't get wasted. Safe journey Sir Lunchalot. Really pleased we had the chance to meet up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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