What Do You Expect On Thursday

[mervjankefanclub]

All that matters to British fans is how their home team is riding.

Anything out of the country doesn't exist.

If theres a new rising star he's to be knocked on the forum if he signs for another team.

Im allright Jack f--- you.

The football supporter mentality.

 

surely you cant tar us all with the same brush

 

[SuzieQ]

But Ljung and Davidsson have always performed well for their Swedish clubs. Riders shouldn't be judged on performances in a league that seems to be regarded as second rate by riders.

 

I couldn't give a flying fig about Ljung as he is not racing over here now, but I am sure Lakeside would be well impressed to think that that Jonas was not performing to his ability because he regards the BEL as second rate! maybe they should reconsider his contract offer! damn sure I would! but then I guess you are not actually his spokesman are you?

Edited July 17, 2008 by SuzieQ

[shazzybird]

I was just be faec..fec..sarky.

 

I knew what ya meant

[Subedei]

I couldn't give a flying fig about Ljung as he is not racing over here now, but I am sure Lakeside would be well impressed to think that that Jonas was not performing to his ability because he regarding the BEL as second rate! maybe they should reconsider his contract offer! damn sure I would! but then I guess you are not actually his spokesman are you?

 

Why? Lakeside drop him and some other promotion would pick him up in desperation. How many clubs has Jonas Davidsson been released by? And he always finds someone willing to pick him up. Actually, he seems to be doing well for Lakeside. Perhaps other British promotions should wonder why that is.

[SuzieQ]

Why? Lakeside drop him and some other promotion would pick him up in desperation. How many clubs has Jonas Davidsson been released by? And he always finds someone willing to pick him up. Actually, he seems to be doing well for Lakeside. Perhaps other British promotions should wonder why that is.

 

Coz he has another Swede to play with other than his brother?

 

Oh Oh! No - he likes the shopping centre nearby!

Edited July 17, 2008 by SuzieQ

[MARK246]

Our youngsters will never be on a par with Sweden, Denmark and Poland because we just don't have the facilities they do, our speedway clubs are now council owned, our youngsters can't practice when they like, seemingly for nothing, what do we expect??? We are on the back foot all the time.

 

What we need is for junior grasstrack to take off again big time cos it relatively cheap and gives the kids a good grounding for speedway imo.

 

Before I moved to Sweden I was heavily involved in junior grasstrack, but over the years the attitude of the parents changed dramatically. It changed from being a pleasure to absolute chore to help. You can read on other threads what type of kids came through spoilt brats, mostly. Now I've lost touch sadly but a few good lads still ride two were in the EM this year.

The help to set up and run this aren't there anymore, every one wants instant success speedway traing schools seem to provide it without the effort of learning to race, all you do is ride in circles as fast as you can no competition no learning to race it shows in meetings like tonight, there's no fight.

[stevebrum]

hopefully tonight is the end of kennets international career, his time with rye has ruined what was potentially a great career.

end of the line for rico and nicholls.

 

tai and bomber are giving it their all, but are simply not good enough at this level.

 

Kennett hasnt improved league wise but he still looks way short of what he needs international wise.

Bomber had a break through last year and needs to consolidate that but you cant say Tai isnt good enough. The lad potentially could be the real deal in a coupla years!!!!!

 

 

Lee Richardsons internatiomal career is over

 

it should be.

 

 

I'd agree,Tai and Bomber look the only decent hopes for the future.

 

agree

 

 

am a Rico fan, embarrassingly, but tonight he was ridiculous.

 

agreed.

 

 

Very well done SWEDEN - we are in the final a great effort from the Swedes

 

the Swedes know how to take it up several levels on the world stage, Deserved winners!

 

 

Great ride by Danny Nermark to beat Gollob.

 

superb indeed. Cant believe chose the PL tho when he was wanted back at Wolves. Think he would have done a superb job for us personally in the EL

 

 

So very proud of Woffy tonight. For his first WTC, he more than held his own. His heat win was a moment I will savour for a long time.

 

As a wolf owned rider - i can only echo your pride.

 

[gaptooth]

Team GB were lets face it crap! and to say that the team has put some pride back is nonsence as well.

 

Harris and young Tai Woffenden are the only two who can hold their heads up with pride, they got stuck in and were consistant.

 

Nichols can and should of done much better, maybe it's also time for him to step aside and have Harris as Team GB skipper who isn't afraid to get stuck in, something missing from him in the interviews, lack of fire in the belly.

 

Richardson is a disgrace and on the downward slope at this level, he should be replaced by young up and coming riders now to give them the experience Tai was given tonight, they will only get better from the experience.

 

Kennet is lacking something, probably in his mental approach and until he can prove himself individually should be replaced or used if injuries hamper selection.

 

Disgusted

 

The general idea is to give the kids a chance not replace them after one meeting, what good does that do

[MARK246]

surely you cant tar us all with the same brush

 

Look at the Peterborough thread. A British speedway track is dying and the vultures are deciding which riders can go where.

[SCB]

It's kind of depressing when the last British individual world champion (not longtrack) won almost 30 years ago, and the last time we were WTC champs was when Tatum was captain in the 80's!

Gary Havelock 1992 and Mark Loram 2000 were 16 and 8 years ago

 

I can't add anything that other have not already posted.

[Guest PanthersChamp06]

got in from work after heat 15, and wasnt shocked with the score, we had no chance TBH.

 

Tai did well, rest should off done better, the track was decent i thought and saturday should be a good show

[LisaColette]

got in from work after heat 15, and wasnt shocked with the score, we had no chance TBH.

 

Tai did well, rest should off done better, the track was decent i thought and saturday should be a good show

 

i did notice that when georgie was interviewing him, he answered the questions to chris louis and didn't really look at georgie which was surprising!

[Phillip Addison]

I expected to get some serious stick for my comments on the GB riders especially Richardson, but im surprised i seem to have insulted the prickly Swedes !!

Maybe Paivi my Finnish friend will have to explain their sensabilities and sense of humour. But i honestly didnt mean any offence. I was simply trying to say they were in the same boat as team GB with riders but did a much better job. I still think Nicholls and co should be beating Nermark and Ljung. And im NOT a Scott Nicholls fan if you read my post i said he's over rated. But most tmes id expect a GP rider not to be 40 yds behind a PL rider.Bet that doesn't happen in the playoffs.I take offence at some of the comments following about ' football supporters mentality' etc and Subedies generalisation of everything. Well done Sweden and Poland tonight. They both DESERVED to be in the Final. GB were crap [ Tai apart and to a certain extent Harris ] I still think the Danes will win by a clear margin but i would like to see Sweden or Poland win. Thats if im allowed to shout for another team on saturday notwithstanding being an old imperialistic colonialist Brit or whatever crap it was.

Edited July 18, 2008 by Down in the Park

[Niclas]

I cant take anything out of tonight other than Tai Woffindens showing, and even that didnt surprise me because i think the lad is a fabulous rider. He's something special. I hope people give him the time and space to develop and it will come. The rest ? Oh dear. Richardson reminds me of the proverbial British loser, like Tim Henman. Nicholls is over rated. Kennet tried, perhaps his efforts outweighed the talent early on [ over riding ? ] and was a bit out of his depth in this field but maybe will be a good performer on the world stage in years to come, time will tell, for me the jury is still out. Harris, i dont know what he was playing at when he was on the best gate at the time [ 3 ] actually gated and then drifted into no mans land and promptly got passed by the Swede and Pole. 5 out of 10 for his efforts too. Some may say im being harsh but i dont think so. The Swedes had a Premier League rider in and no disrespect to Peter Ljung but hes not an Elite Leaguer. Also we were told by the opinionated Pearson ' the Poles will struggle on the tight bends of Vojens ' Excuse me ??

We should have been in the mix with both. We were after 9 races but floundered after this point. Also amazed at Jim Lynch in his interview when he said ' We came here to maybe get second, we didnt think we could win, but maybe we've a chance ! ' [ of 1st ] Attitude of a realist ? I think they should have been pumped up to win the meeting outright. But once again for the umpteenth time we watch GB disappoint. Grand Prix riders getting beaten [ easily ] by Premier League riders and Continental riders who dont even ride EL, PL, and im not certain of the Russians pedegree on Polish and Swedish League racing but Harris and Nicholls shouldnt be losing to them. Restored Pride in Pearsons words ?, but for me we came a distant 3rd in a 3 horse race. Tai was a shining bright spot though.

 

I agree, Scott Nicholls should beat Ljung and Nermark. Nicholls is a GP-rider, and even if Ljung and Nermark have qualified for the Grand final, they arent as good as Scootie. But it seems like the Swedes really wanted revenge for the failure last year. In every heat the Swedes tried to win, no matter who was in front of them. Most of the brits looked like they were on an ordinary sundaytrip (except for Tai who was absolutely magnificent). I dont know if Lynch has problem of motivate them to win. And to be honest, why did Lynch ride Scott as TJ from lane one? That lane was terrible and everybody knew it (maybe except for Lynch...).

 

Howverver, like Anders, I am proud of the Swedish team, they did an awesome job. I dont think Sweden is going to win on Saturday but I think all the Swedish riders will do their best to do so.

 

 

 

[rabbit]

I wish everyone would shut up about the commentators. So what, they are a little annoying, but none of you moaning, would be any different, if you were in their shoes.

And by complaining constantly, you are equally as annoying as they are. Put a sock in it, or watch something else. Its getting really boring.

 

Well said!

 

Very disappointing showing again last night - sure it was better than Monday, but i'd have switched off in disgust if it had been a repeat performance. Only thing that did grate was the constant repetition of 'restoring pride' - like hell we did - we finished 3rd and went out for gawd's sakes! Restoring pride would've been a blinding performance and winning last night, not fizzling out with a whimper.

 

Only bright point really was Tai - a shining example of how it's done. No fear on track and eloquent off it (alhough please lose the Scotty Nichools 'giving 110%' line, Tai! ). If we could clone this lad I'd be more than optimisitc about our future!

 

Our riders, for the most part, seemed to be riding totally different lines to the others - Eddie hugging that inside all the time and Rico riding in the AJ inspired 'no-mans-land'. So frustrating to watch - do our guys not read a race as they're riding it, as we seemed out-thought on too many occasions and being beaten up by riders who really shouldn't have been a threat to GP standard riders. Fair play to the Swedes and Poles though, and good luck to them on Saturday. Very impressive performances last night from both on the whole.

 

We do need a serious re-think by the authorities on how to nurture and bring through the next batch - Tai has shown himself ready, but the rest are still a long way off and need some sort of cushion to bring them through to the top. It needs to be a priority this close-season at conference, or we really are going to slip further behind the others. And as a supporter of my national team, I don't want to see that.

Edited July 18, 2008 by rabbit

[Fourentee]

offensive remark removed

 

Kindly engage what passes as your brain before posting with that kind of language. I am the adoptive parent of a blind teenager with Down Syndrome and every time I see this kind of stuff it goes straight to my heart. A moment's thought is all it takes.

[shazzybird]

Kindly engage what passes as your brain before posting with that kind of language. I am the adoptive parent of a blind teenager with Down Syndrome and every time I see this kind of stuff it goes straight to my heart. A moment's thought is all it takes.

 

Am with you there Fourentee (without going off topic) I wanted to reply to the posting but couldn't do it politely enough

[Bobbin' Along]

Must be my age - I'd completely forgotten about the others. Mike Lee was who I was referring to- 28 years is nearly 30....

 

 

Gary Havelock 1992 and Mark Loram 2000 were 16 and 8 years ago

 

I can't add anything that other have not already posted.

(see above.....)

 

offensive remark removed

 

You're a very sad individual if you think it's OK to refer to anyone using derogatory terms like that. Not only is it insulting to Edward Kennett, but worse -it's intensely hurtful to those involved with, or having, Down's Syndrome children not to mention to the sufferers themselves.

[Trees]

offensive remark removed

Leave the boy alone for goodness sake, it's what he does on track that matters!!

We do need a serious re-think by the authorities on how to nurture and bring through the next batch - Tai has shown himself ready, but the rest are still a long way off and need some sort of cushion to bring them through to the top. It needs to be a priority this close-season at conference, or we really are going to slip further behind the others. And as a supporter of my national team, I don't want to see that.

Seems to me that Tai's father might be the one for the BSPA to talk to, they need to find out just how he nurtured Tai into the rider he is today and hopefully put something in place for the youngsters along the same lines?

Yes, Daniel Nermark is a PL rider. He is also a much better rider than 2/3 of all the riders in the EL.

He only races in the PL because he enjoys it more doesn't he? He was a 7-8 point EL rider a few years back before he broke his legs and is now back to good form again.

[Laser558]

Which one of the thriving cash swamped British clubs could afford to run it.

 

Sponsorship is the answer but this is on the assumption that the BSPA has someone who knows how to sell the product for the benefit of the sport and not simply to line a few pockets at the expense of the majority. If those promoters who continually whinge about losses are having such a bad time why do they not simply shut up shop and go and invest in something else. I find it hard to believe that in one field of business we have so many dumbos who are losing money and do nothing about it.