falkirkbandit Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 24 - 37 - and 56 please. That's....Sweet & Sour Chicken , Egg Fried Rice and Chicken Chow Mein. mmmm.... Hahaha, i think i might still get the chinese but i'll probably just go home after work, can't see much to get excited about (or worthwhile), trailing up to my folks' house to watch this i'm afraid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDon Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hahaha, i think i might still get the chinese but i'll probably just go home after work, can't see much to get excited about (or worthwhile), trailing up to my folks' house to watch this i'm afraid! It's about time that Betfair introduced a market on how many times Millard will utter the words "Norwegian riding under a Polish licence" on Thursday. (It must be his turn to commentate I'd have though) Apart from that Sweden and Poland all the way, beyond that just hope GB can be competitive for the first three rounds at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 It's about time that Betfair introduced a market on how many times Millard will utter the words "Norwegian riding under a Polish licence" on Thursday. (It must be his turn to commentate I'd have though) Apart from that Sweden and Poland all the way, beyond that just hope GB can be competitive for the first three rounds at least. First three heats would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Right from the start I want to see the riders display some pride in riding for their country. IF the national anthem is played (and yes it is a dirge), at the very least I expect to see all 5 + team manager goldfishing (altho they should at least know the words to the first verse . To stand there like bollards implies to the opposition (and everyone else) they have no pride. Then I expect to see team spirit, whether it's true team spirit or false, matters not. I do not want to see 5 individual riders sitting on their own, heads down. I want to see them talking, patting backs, joking, kicking a*se, anything that implies they are a united unit. I want to see team talks, huddles of the riders and manager, even if they are actually saying "we look like plonkers doing this", the oppostion will think they are serious. I want to see Wuffinden and Kennett get all the support they need and deserve. If the don't score, so what, they hopefully will learn from the atmosphere and come back next time better prepared. I want to see each rider come in from their race, communicating track conditions and idiosyncracies to their team mates not slinking back to his own pit area and sulking. I want to see the manager in amongst the riders, coaxing, asking questions, giving instructions etc. I want to see mechanics getting on with their jobs and allowing the riders to focus on the on track action so they can react to ever changing track conditions and hopefully cheering on their team mates. I would like to see Team GB progress, I have serious doubts that they will, if however they show most of the above it will be a vast improvement on last night and maybe just maybe a small step along the way to becoming a force in World speedway again. Part of being a decent speedway rider is in the mind, maybe by acting like a rider that beleives he can make an impact on the meeting some of Team GB might just become one. I've made no comments on how to actually ride the bikes, because quite simply if they can't do that for themselves they shouldn't be there, and I wouldn't have a clue and freely admit it. Not going to read the rest of the thread, no need to SL you've summed it up 100%for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarabanko Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 It only can go better for the brits but I belive they will not be racing for a place in the final more third or fourth place. GO, SWEDEN GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 cant agree with the above star lady,i wouldn't sing the national anthem if my life depended upon it. Why don't they play Land of Hope and Glory then, much much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Cos chances are that will be the only line they know! Anyway they wont be playing any of them after last night. Edited July 15, 2008 by shazzybird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 cant agree with the above star lady,i wouldn't sing the national anthem if my life depended upon it. Can you sing. Just throw in the youngsters. Give them a taste of what's ahead and let's see if youthful exuberance can overcome nerves and expectation. Team GB have absolutely nothing to lose now. Nichols is still the best GB rider followed by Harris,after those two we should deffo be bringing in fresh blood.For Thursday IMO we should go with 1 Scotty 2 Lewis 3 Eddie 4 Tai 5 Bomber Personal things aside (ie ability, skill)... he had the same chances. He's beaten the top guys in the past, there was nothing to say he couldn't step it up (like Davidsson does at international level) and beat them again. But, anyway, my point is that Lynch would've had a lot of explaining to do had either Stead or Allen scored a maximum (or, say, double figures) and then he'd still replaced them. Maybe Jim told the lads,regardless of your scores i must still use new riders,but the door remains open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 In fairness to the riders, the national anthem resembled a recording of deaf children, played on an ancient gramophone! For 20-34 quid the presentation last night was nothing short of awful, saying that, for half the price it would have been embarrassing. Crap music, terrible announcer and not even a karaoke singer to sing the national anthem. If the organisers weren't so busy chasing the Yankee dollar, Coventry could have been full last night, which at the very least would have hidden the crumbling terraces, weeds on every corner and on the back straight a paint stripper! As for Nicholls having no pride? I'm not his greatest fan but even I can see he was very, very annoyed last night. I think (and hope) we will see a different rider on Thursday. As for putting James Wright and the like in? Did you watch the meeting at Belle Vue last week? A meeting that made Stead look Elite Class. Yes build for the future but don't make things even more cringe worthy. JT. Well said JT agree with everything. I looked into the pits and at least Scott seemed own and out not like the mediocre British GP 2007 winner on his home track laughing and joking. The presentation, playing of the national anthem etc was really crap. Empty seatin the stands...charge the earth in this ecconomic climate what do they expect I couldn't fault Olly and he tried his heart out. Bridger and King were mentioned but would they have done better I doubt it. Sweden surprised me and Davidsson and Nermark for me were much better than I thought they would be. I expect thursday to be different and nothing short of double points scores from the top three would be acceptable. Take what we can from Eddie and Tai but I have a feeling that as Rye House supporter he will set the place alight. I hope Olly and Simon are both at Vojens and we live or die as a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westhamboy66 Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Why don't they play Land of Hope and Glory then, much much better How about JERUSALEM...Ah but we are Team GB or are we? The riders seem to think we are England. Sums us up at the moment we don't even know what our country is called. If I was watching the telly and was Scots or Welsh I would be well miffed. Seems we should get our name right and build from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingpin23699 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Stuff the National Anthem! This is speedway, not a karaoke contest, or pop idol. I don't give a hoot if they sing, goldfish or dance to the NA. Just get out there and ride......FAST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Stuff the National Anthem! This is speedway, not a karaoke contest, or pop idol. I don't give a hoot if they sing, goldfish or dance to the NA. Just get out there and ride......FAST! That said - why bother with this whole event then. I accept your point of view but the arguement to that is - they are riding for their Nation therefore that goes along with it. If it is just speedway meeting then drop this whole competition - they are riding for National pride and for the country. Not individual glory, thats what the GP series is all about. As it happens the National Anthem used at brandon was absolute pants and it was very hard to get any motivation from it at all. We just looked at each other and said - "What is this?" A very disapointing choice. But we wont need to worry about an anthem unfortunately. Thursday is in Denmark, therefore the Denmark anthem will be played so no gee-ing the boys up from that Im afraid. And I doubt we will hear it at the end of the meeting either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 they are riding for National pride and for the country. Glad you reminded me of that Sandie cos from the Sky coverage it wasn't exactly obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 As it happens the National Anthem used at brandon was absolute pants and it was very hard to get any motivation from it at all. We just looked at each other and said - "What is this?" A very disapointing choice. Hearing that on the telly , the end of it sounded like the version from Queen's " A Night at the Opera " album . They should have got someone to sing it - like they do at big football matches . Hope you looked after out BTL btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 That said - why bother with this whole event then. I accept your point of view but the arguement to that is - they are riding for their Nation therefore that goes along with it. If it is just speedway meeting then drop this whole competition - they are riding for National pride and for the country. Not individual glory, thats what the GP series is all about. As it happens the National Anthem used at brandon was absolute pants and it was very hard to get any motivation from it at all. We just looked at each other and said - "What is this?" A very disapointing choice. But we wont need to worry about an anthem unfortunately. Thursday is in Denmark, therefore the Denmark anthem will be played so no gee-ing the boys up from that Im afraid. And I doubt we will hear it at the end of the meeting either. personally sandie i consider myself english,and have little interest in being politically correct and following team gb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) personally sandie i consider myself english,and have little interest in being politically correct and following team gb You're quite right . They are all English riders - therefore they should be called England . I remember the good old days when Scotland could compete in the World Pairs and World Team Cup , and if by chance any of our riders could be good enough to compete at that level again - i want them riding for Scotland , not GB . And if they were called England i wouldn't feel guilty about supporting the other 3 teams . Edited July 16, 2008 by Paulco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 You're quite right . They are all English riders - therefore they should be called England . I remember the good old days when Scotland could compete in the World Pairs and World Team Cup , and if by chance any of our riders could be good enough to compete at that level again - i want them riding for Scotland , not GB . And if they were called England i wouldn't feel guilty about supporting the other 3 teams . Paulco, Tully's Scottish isn't he? I reckon that lad could go a long way. But yes, you're right, England and Scotland should have seperate teams. And if your youngsters progress, hopefully we could have an England vs Scotland test series in the future. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I remember the good old days when Scotland could compete in the World Pairs and World Team Cup I don't think either England nor Scotland actually ever officially competed in the WTC, although World Pairs may have been a different story. They rode in a 'British Qualifier' with Australia and New Zealand for the right to represent Great Britain, and all FIM records relating to the WTC refer to Great Britain. They are all English riders - therefore they should be called England . They were all Coventry or ex-Coventry riders weren't they, so on that basis should actually have ridden as 'Coventry'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) I don't think either England nor Scotland actually ever officially competed in the WTC, although World Pairs may have been a different story. They rode in a 'British Qualifier' with Australia and New Zealand for the right to represent Great Britain, and all FIM records relating to the WTC refer to Great Britain. HA - I'm sure Scotland used to ride in the UK Round of the WTC in the mid-seventies along with England, New Zealand and Australia. Then the Yanks emerged and took Scotland's place. It was only in 1960-61 that the qualifying team was called Great Britain (a supposedly English team, but with Ken McKinlay in it ). I don't think the Aussies in 1976 or New Zealand in 1979 would like to be referred as Great Britain. All the best Rob Edited July 16, 2008 by lucifer sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 They were all Coventry or ex-Coventry riders weren't they, so on that basis should actually have ridden as 'Coventry'. All five riders were crap, so maybe they should have been called "Team Crap". All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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