AndyM Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 To all those that have called for Middlos head, for years of underperformance. You all have your wish, Team GB are being utterly humiliated in their own back yard. Hope your all happy Gives me no pleasure whatever to see this abject humiliation, though as I've said many times the roots of this kind of performance are woven into the fabric of uk speedway and how it's organised. Frankly, I don't think that anybody in authority really cares enough to invest in the infrastructure, coaching, facilities or support for the British team, so I for one would not place all the blame on Middlo. Any manager would struggle to get the best from his riders in that context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector 71 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Woffindon would do no better and its too early for him, it wouldnt be fair. Kennett is no better than a reserve around Brandon. Olly Allen though, give me a break. We just dont have enough good riders to choose from. Like it was for him in the GB final on a track he'd barely seen before. Woffinden is well up to this. Edited July 14, 2008 by Inspector 71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcrust Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 By the way Come on Adrian Rymel. You should be well proud of him, he's riding like a good un! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjr Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Woffindon would do no better and its too early for him Rubbish, he should have had Allens(who is superb around Brandon ) place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanozoff Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Like it was for him in the GB final on a track he'd barely seen before. Woffinden is well up to this. He was up against fellow English muppets though, not world class riders. What would him getting beaten by half a lap by the Danes or Aussies do for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector 71 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) He was up against fellow English muppets though, not world class riders. What would him getting beaten by half a lap by the Danes or Aussies do for him? Rubbish. He's a damn sight better than you give him credit. He hammered Rymel at Berwick at the weekend and the Czech is proving no mug tonight. Edited July 14, 2008 by Inspector 71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickboard Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 no riders in the gb team have any form what do we expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashie Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Gives me no pleasure whatever to see this abject humiliation, though as I've said many times the roots of this kind of performance are woven into the fabric of uk speedway and how it's organised. Frankly, I don't think that anybody in authority really cares enough to invest in the infrastructure, coaching, facilities or support for the British team, so I for one would not place all the blame on Middlo. Any manager would struggle to get the best from his riders in that context. Whilst I agree about the infrastructure and the lack of talent the likes of Nicholls, Harris and Richardson should be more than capable of scoring more than 10 points alone between them after 2 rides each, 3 for Nicholls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 You should be well proud of him, he's riding like a good un! Think we are all proud of him SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 You should be well proud of him, he's riding like a good un! That he is,goes to show there is talent outside the EL.Love to have seen Woffinden in tonight after watching him on saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanozoff Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Rubbish. He's a damn sight better than you give him credit. I am not slagging him at all my friend, he looks to be a fantastic prospect but coming 2nd in the British Final and beating some world class riders is completely different. Christ, Howe came 2nd last year didnt he? Or was he 3rd???? I hope that I will be proved wrong on Thursday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Whilst I agree about the infrastructure and the lack of talent the likes of Nicholls, Harris and Richardson should be more than capable of scoring more than 10 points alone between them after 2 rides each, 3 for Nicholls. There's little pride or motivation attached to riding in national colours. It's the lowest priority for riders who already spend most of their working lives riding for 3 or 4 clubs. Rider talent is one thing, but making the national team no 1 requires major structural change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clunsey Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 This is just the result of years of total neglect for British speedway. At last we have now arrived at the level that investment ensures, second rate speedway. But hey at least the matches in the "Elite League" are closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector 71 Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) I am not slagging him at all my friend, he looks to be a fantastic prospect but coming 2nd in the British Final and beating some world class riders is completely different. Christ, Howe came 2nd last year didnt he? Or was he 3rd???? I hope that I will be proved wrong on Thursday though. Tai is different gravy to some of our one track wonders. Mark my words, he should be out there tonight. Edited July 14, 2008 by Inspector 71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) Totally correct Shazzy. Middlo is a motivator who got more out of TeamGB than was in the tank. Now Jim Lynch is finding out just how tough it is. At the moment we won't even be riding on Thursday! Hone, Vega, and a load of others called for Middlo's head. Truth is he was our 6th rider and the reason we papered over the cracks for so long, which are now clearly evident. bullsh1t the biggest motivator GB had in the last few years was David Norris, simple as. the only time GB got anywhere near winning was completely down to Norris and the way HE got the rest of the team going. just all reminds me of last year in Poland .. difference is, when all of you were saying the Poles had oversize engines, GB go out on their home track on 250cc's .. now THAT'S confidence and i agree fully that Woffinden should have been in with his form at the moment. not even Middlo would have used him either, he's a PL rider. Edited July 14, 2008 by stevehone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 To be fair, the riders are poor, the track seems to have been preapred for the Danes the only think I might have done different is have Kennett in for Stead so would Middlo done any better? I don't know him, is he a better motivatror than Lynch? Shocking statement and whats even more shocking is your 100% right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanozoff Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Norris and Havvy to be fair. Both great motivators and both wore their hearts their sleeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashie Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Shocking statement and whats even more shocking is your 100% right. My typing shocking lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 not even Middlo would have used him either, he's a PL rider. That goes to show how much you know, oh and Middlo says thanks he's watching whilst enjoying his JD & Coke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 There's little pride or motivation attached to riding in national colours. It's the lowest priority for riders who already spend most of their working lives riding for 3 or 4 clubs. Rider talent is one thing, but making the national team no 1 requires major structural change. There's little to no motivation in TeamGB, or the England football team for that matter. Different story for the other countries though. This is a British disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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