Dietbowers Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Well,I enjoyed seeing the Aussies win,and overall I did`nt think the meeting to be that bad. We`ve certainly seen worse on a Monday night this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcham Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 An absolutely beautiful first corner from Leigh Adams sealed it in the race-off. Poor meeting but decent result especially from a GB perspective. decent result from a gb perspective,and an even better one if your an aussie,but i diabolical result for any of us that like to see the BEST team win. speedway should be ashamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 (edited) A bit tough on the Poles - only a race-off because of the much-maligned "Joker" rule. But it is the rule. And no doubt the Poles will get to use it on Thursday. I doubt Jagus will be there - expect to see the semi-weird Walasek taking his place. And I'd have been inclined to go with Gollob in the race-off. No one ever seriously expected Hampel to beat Adams in the race-off, did they? Gollob's the Pole who has done it consistently at the highest level in high-profile, high-pressure races, such as GP finals and the like. Anyway, congratulations to the Australians. But while people are being a bit "sniffy" about the Poles' chances in Vojens it is worth pointing out they finished second to the Danes in the SWC round at Vojens last season. And that was one place ahead of the Australians. It's not yet over for the Poles. But they need to get Kasprzak sorted out. Edited July 12, 2008 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 (edited) Even though the Joker would be better named with the 'r' knocked off the end, it's there to be used at the end of the day. Bit harsh on Poland but it's the rules and as it happened it played straight into Australia's hands. Edit - and as for who should've been used in the race-off, Ermolenko was totally correct (for a change) in his comments about Gollob IMO. Adams knew what Hampel would do on the first bend and I think Gollob would've used a bit more intelligence on track and thought more about where Adams was going to go. I also doubt Gollob would make such a brilliant start as Hampel did and throw it away. Edited July 12, 2008 by tigerblues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 A bit tough on the Poles - only a race-off because of the much-maligned "Joker" rule. But it is the rule. And no doubt the Poles will get to use it on Thursday. I doubt Jagus will be there - expect to see the semi-weird Walasek taking his place. And I'd have been inclined to go with Gollob in the race-off. No one ever seriously expected Hampel to beat Adams in the race-off, did they? Gollob's the Pole who has done it consistently at the highest level in high-profile, high-pressure races, such as GP finals and the like. Anyway, congratulations to the Australians. But while people are being a bit "sniffy" about the Poles chances in Vojens it is worth pointing out they finished second to the Danes in the SWC round at Vojens last season. And that was one place ahead of the Australians. It's not yet over for the Poles. But they need to get Kasprzak sorted out. Your spot on here, Pols lost it as soon as they left Gollob out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Wasn't so much the joker as Jagus's engine failure in the joker race that cost the Poles . Quite pleased the Aussies done it though as the Poles looked to be getting a bit of assistance from the Russians towards the end of the meeting . Good to see Shane Parker laughing and joking in the pits . Looks a bit skinny though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Even though the Joker would be better named with the 'r' knocked off the end, it's there to be used at the end of the day. Bit harsh on Poland but it's the rules and as it happened it played straight into Australia's hands. The thing about the Joker in the SWC, as opposed to league competitions where it's used, is that in the SWC it can wipe out a lead in a single race, as happened tonight. In the league competitions in which it is used, with the "bar" for use being set at 10 points, it can only claw back a maximum of 7 points, with an 8-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 The thing about the Joker in the SWC, as opposed to league competitions where it's used, is that in the SWC it can wipe out a lead in a single race, as happened tonight. In the league competitions in which it is used, with the "bar" for use being set at 10 points, it can only claw back a maximum of 7 points, with an 8-1. Yes you are right I think they should change it to 8 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Quite pleased the Aussies done it though as the Poles looked to be getting a bit of assistance from the Russians towards the end of the meeting . I thought it was the Russkies getting assistance from the Poles, Tomek just loves team riding with them. Gutted that Jarek didn't win the run-off but at least we get to see the Poles again on Thursday. Far better entertainment than the Aussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
father jack Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Yes you are right I think they should change it to 8 points. No - they should abolish it altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldeneagle Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I thought it was the Russkies getting assistance from the Poles, Tomek just loves team riding with them. Gutted that Jarek didn't win the run-off but at least we get to see the Poles again on Thursday. Far better entertainment than the Aussies. Quite right, I couldnt bear to watch Leigh Adams cry twice in a fortnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Thought it was an entertaining meeting tonight leading all the way to the race off. Started very slowly but there were some very good heats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Good to see adams kick hampel butt in the last heat and wipe the smile of louis stupid face in the studio who was cheering jarek on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Good to see adams kick hampel butt in the last heat and wipe the smile of louis stupid face in the studio who was cheering jarek on . Oi you, that face is not stupid!!! And he was not the only one cheering Hampel on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Yes you are right I think they should change it to 8 points. No - they should abolish it altogether IMO its six of one and half a dozen of the other,if you are winning and lose out due to the Joker,it stinks,but without it we would'nt of had the exciting finish we had tonight.Maybe change it to,only a programmed rider can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Oi you, that face is not stupid!!! And he was not the only one cheering Hampel on! Shame i could not see your face when adams passed him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 IMO a decent meeting. The top two teams battling it out till the end, a run off and some entertaining riding by the Russians + good to see Matej in the points (pity that he was a one man team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I'm not entirely sure the Russians understood the rules - they made some weird decisions, making tactical changes and yet ensuring that every rider still had five rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I'm not entirely sure the Russians understood the rules - they made some weird decisions, making tactical changes and yet ensuring that every rider still had five rides. Just adds to the intrigue they manage to still have in post-Soviet times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0311 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Not too bad a meeting. Saifutdinov was a joy to watch and thought Noddy didn't disgrace himself either. So glad to hear the dulcet tones of Mullard again. Did you know that Kasprzak is the track record holder at Leszno? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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