newbieoldboy Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Why cant we have qualifiers like we had a few years ago then theres no arguements,if you qualify then you deserve to be there. Oh screm what planet are you on? This is run by the BSPA please don't come up with sensible and obvious solutions that make it simple for people who pay to watch the sport understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittle_face Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 According to the site, the qualifying criteria is the 7 highest average teams (top four riders only) up to and including Saturday 14th June plus one wild card. I make Newcastle the wild card from my own personal calcs - well they couldn't really make it Glasgow could they and they would probably have gone for the nearest local club who didn't qualify who would bring the biggest support I expect (thats what Golasgow did re the Pairs a couple of years ago) Newcastle qualified as 4th seed on official averages and are not the wild card in this event - The wild card place is taken by Reading (therefore not given on the criteria of closest to Workington as the Rye House fans would like to believe!) The full line ups and official qualifying averages are below (courtesy of the Somerset Speedway Website) Group A (team and individual averages in brackets) Somerset Rebels (32.28); 1] Jason Doyle (9.59); 2] Emil Kramer (9.22); 3] Jordan Frampton (6.78); 4] Simon Walker (6.69) Workington Comets (31.68); 1] Daniel Nermark (10.09); 2] Kauko Nieminen (8.69); 3] Carl Stonehewer (7.62); 4] Joe Haines [5.28] Sheffield Tigers (30.40); 1] Andre Compton (9.32); 2] Ricky Ashworth (7.64); 3] Ben Wilson (7.16); 4] Joel Parsons (6.28) Edinburgh Monarchs (29.68); 1] William Lawson (8.57); 2] Andrew Tully (7.21); 3] Matthew Wethers (7.00); 4] Ryan Fisher [6.90) Group B (team and individual averages in brackets) King’s Lynn Stars (32.08); 1] Kevin Doolan (9.94); 2] Tomas Topinka (9.14); 3] Shaun Tacey (6.75); 4] Rusty Harrison (6.25) Newcastle Diamonds (30.51); 1] George Stancl (8.74); 2] Josef Franc (8.00); 3] Jason King (6.98); 4] Christian Henry (6.79) Berwick Bandits (30.02); 1] Adrian Rymel (9.39); 2] Michal Makovsky (7.75); 3] Norbert Magosi (7.07); 4] Tero Aarnio (5.81) Reading Racers (29.54); 1] Ulrich Ostergaard (10.16); 2] Mark Lemon (7.52); 3] Tom P Madsen (6.69); 4] Chris Mills (5.17) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Thanks for that skittle_face. I assume they have taken the 'real time' averages and ignored all the interim/green sheet hoo ha stuff. Reading as Wild Card DOES surprise me, it would be good to know how they were picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 The groups are a bit unbalanced in that Group A has the top three in the league in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 It seems to have been done the same way as qualifying tho ML - group 1 is those qualifying as 1st 3rd 5th and 7th, group 2 2nd, 4th, 6th and wildcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight_Lady Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Yeah that's true. It just looks so lopsided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Seems like a right Mickey Mouse event. Zzz zzz zzz zzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Seems like a right Mickey Mouse event. Zzz zzz zzz zzz You may think that my friend but I see it as a chance to see my Berwick Bandits take part in a meeting we dont normally.Id imagine there will be quite a few Bandits fans making the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) It seems to have been done the same way as qualifying tho ML - group 1 is those qualifying as 1st 3rd 5th and 7th, group 2 2nd, 4th, 6th and wildcard Correct - But it should be done as the GPs are decided in the Semis as 1st, 4th, 6th and 7th and then 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 8th. Oh, I'm sure they're there on merit, I'd just like it to be explained to me and a few others HOW? Because you got your figures wrong regarding Rye and Newcastle Tai Woffinden - 9.50 Stefan Ekberg - 7.07 Tommy Allen - 6.52 Chris Neath - 6.39 = 29.48. Therefore both Edinburgh and Reading have a higher total average than you. Edited July 6, 2008 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 We agree,great to see the Bandits in a showcase meeting like this and theres no reason why we cant do very well.Id presume our four will be Rymel,Makovsky,Aarnio and Magosi,good looking team. will be very surprised to see Adrian Rymel at workington,unfortune clash of dates with the 3rd and last round of the czech ind final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markone Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Correct - But it should be done as the GPs are decided in the Semis as 1st, 4th, 6th and 7th and then 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 8th. Because you got your figures wrong regarding Rye and Newcastle Tai Woffinden - 9.50 Stefan Ekberg - 7.07 Tommy Allen - 6.52 Chris Neath - 6.39 = 29.48. Therefore both Edinburgh and Reading have a higher total average than you. and of course the afore mentioned diamonds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Thanks for that skittle_face. I assume they have taken the 'real time' averages and ignored all the interim/green sheet hoo ha stuff. Reading as Wild Card DOES surprise me, it would be good to know how they were picked. not surprising the Racers are the wild card-we are at Glasgow on the sunday and the BSPA were ensuring the Racers didnt have to go all the way to Scotland as a one-off ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gailo Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Seems like a right Mickey Mouse event. Zzz zzz zzz zzz So you will not be attending this Mickey Mouse event at Workington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirio Barre Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 You may think that my friend but I see it as a chance to see my Berwick Bandits take part in a meeting we dont normally.Id imagine there will be quite a few Bandits fans making the trip. Good on ya, looking forward to my trip to Berwick in a few weeks time always enjoyed my visits there which is more than can be said for my trips to Workington. but thats another story. Anyhoo, We spend most of the first 2 months of the season run qualifiers to find the trophy semi-finals yet this rather random selection of teams get to race in a SUPER 7 EVENT well, "whoopydoo". Bring back regional qualifiers. So you will not be attending this Mickey Mouse event at Workington. Yes you are very correct; I along with several thousands of regulars on this forum will not be attending. Now had the event be staged at a track less then 1 hours drive away from any major city. I’m sure many thousands of forum members may have attended regardless of the teams involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Good on ya, looking forward to my trip to Berwick in a few weeks time always enjoyed my visits there which is more than can be said for my trips to Workington. but thats another story. Anyhoo, We spend most of the first 2 months of the season run qualifiers to find the trophy semi-finals yet this rather random selection of teams get to race in a SUPER 7 EVENT well, "whoopydoo". Bring back regional qualifiers. Couldnt agree more,cuts out anyone asking why their team isnt there.Always a popular meeting in the north but not so popular in the south.Need I say more.Remember we used to have Edinburgh then Berwick in consecutive nights,Glasgow and Newcastle all in one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Couldnt agree more,cuts out anyone asking why their team isnt there. No need to ask that question, from what I can see the top 8 teams qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioness Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 not surprising the Racers are the wild card-we are at Glasgow on the sunday and the BSPA were ensuring the Racers didnt have to go all the way to Scotland as a one-off ! I'm shocked if they have actually taken fans into account! makes it a better option for the Racers fans and hopefully a few of you will make it to Glasgow on the Sunday, I'm sure you'll all be made welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 on the Super 7 website it says that on finals day there are 2-6 heat semi-finals and a 16 heat final.does anyone know if last year was the same format? in the 6 race qualifer i assume each rider has 1 ride with 2 nominated races-so 2 riders in each of the teams that dont qualify for the final will only have 1 ride all night ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Thanks for that skittle_face. I assume they have taken the 'real time' averages and ignored all the interim/green sheet hoo ha stuff. Reading as Wild Card DOES surprise me, it would be good to know how they were picked. It was always the case that thwetop 7 qualified (as is the case) and the wildc ard was there to make sure the home team were in it, if they qualified as a top 7 team, the team in 8th got the other place. Looking at how close the 7th and 8th teams are, that seems to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDon Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Reading as Wild Card DOES surprise me, it would be good to know how they were picked. Probably something to do with a certain controversial refereeing decision in the pairs event I'd have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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