wimbledonwomble Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Can anyone throw any light on him and his where abouts? Mentioning to another they said that Ivan Mauger said his son saw him on a golf course in Australia only a few years back. Any info appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miro Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) The story went around of Middletons suicide in 2001, though an Australian rider at the time said it wasn't his style. I always thought it would have been typical of him to have faked a suicide or to have put the story around himself, remembering what an odd character he was in general. Many of us would like confirmation either way, and its been mentioned on here several times - Garry was never replaced as my favourite rider. Edited July 3, 2008 by miro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledonwomble Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 No, it seems he was not many fans favourite rider Miro but he was non the less a very good rider. Again, its said Ivan Mauger no less agrees with that. Basically, we would like to establish if the guy is still with us. He ran a training school in the early 70's at Hackney with Len Silver. Perhaps uncle Len can help?? Can anyone ask Len the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 There's a message from his niece on the Hackney Hawks message board saying he has passed away. http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?...er=hackneyhawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddfossengen Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 hmmm just read it maybe its true but last i heard he was in a jail in the united states but anyone who rides abroad then stops on the way home to buy a trophy to make out like hes won it takes a lot of beliving especially where gaz the cas is concerned!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I get the feeling he is either dead or doesn't want to be found by speedway supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledonwomble Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I get the feeling he is either dead or doesn't want to be found by speedway supporters You could be very right there. According to Speedway historians he has not left a final resting place Officially. Maybe he still has the last laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miro Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 hmmm just read it maybe its true but last i heard he was in a jail in the united states but anyone who rides abroad then stops on the way home to buy a trophy to make out like hes won it takes a lot of beliving especially where gaz the cas is concerned!!!! He kept 'spare' trophies in the glove compartment of his car didn't he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miro Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 . Maybe he still has the last laugh. Yes I agree, Midddleton was a larger than life character and if he's chosen to leave us with a mystery then so be it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledonwomble Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 He told me once that he had Ole Olsen and Ivan Mauger Physco Analysised and he understood how their minds worked at that point, and therefore he knew that it was going to beat them. How, I am not sure now of course, and if I should not admit this but I believed him as young highly impressionable fan. He was very convincing. Where ever he is I hope he has found his peace. Thanks for all your replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miro Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) he was not many fans favourite rider Miro but he was non the less a very good rider. He was my favourite for all his faults - its easier to support a controversial rider as you dont have too make excuses for them all the time. He could ride for sure but alongside that he brought a bit of colour and drama - people liked that then and miss it now. I'd heard that one too about mind games - he claimed his mother was a psychiatrist who taught him mental tricks to succeed ... don't start me on stories ... like Middleton asking for permission to fit a horn to his bike to play 'Colonel Bogie' as he was overtaking other riders! Sadly missed, thanks for reminding us of him. Edited July 3, 2008 by miro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Anybody see the old movie"THE THIRD MAN" with Orson Welles.Just like Harry Lime , I think one night a cat will cross the road to a dark door, you'll see a pair of shoes in the door way and then a car will drive by and the headlights will pick out Garry -and he'll have a smile on his face!!Remember folks you heard it here first!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hamilton Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Gary had his own Butler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Yeah but for how long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) Wasn't there a story about him pointing a gun at somebody in the pits? Wherever you are, Garry, thanks for all the great memories, you certainly made an impression on everyone who saw you ride ... and you were almost as good a rider as you told us all you were! No characters around like Garry anymore, more's the pity, now there's a guy who put bums on seats .... P.S Did Len Silver's book ever see the light of day? Edited July 5, 2008 by TwoMinuteWarning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 I've managed to track down Garry's niece Bianca. She wrote the following: "I am sorry i dont have the info you need,heard alot of different stories myself so wouldnt want to quote anything untrue. My brother and i are in the works of finding alot of things out about Garry and our family tree,as my father [garrys bro] and grandmother[garrys mum] have also passed its a little hard..i can keep you informed when i know alot more if you would like? ok thanks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Well done Peter-is the lady in Australia or UK-fascinating story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Well done Peter-is the lady in Australia or UK-fascinating story She's in Australia. Adelaide to be more precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 i remember one time with Gary. he was tellin me he was importin old dc-3 aircraft into africa and makin a killin. so i tried to work a partnership deal with him since i had connections in south america but i made the deal killin mistake of callin him Cass, short for Cassius, which was his nickname, in reference to Muhammed Ali. he looked at me and got angry and said "who do you think you are, that you can call me Cass?" even for me, he was a bit,... eclectic. but, having said that, i liked him. he was very bright for what its worth. its just that we werent exactly buddies. one of a kind for sure, and a pretty good racer when he was on form. and yes i heard the gun in the tool box story at hackney and i reckon its true but cant be sure completely. i am sorry if he did pass tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Wasn't there a story about him pointing a gun at somebody in the pits? Supposedly at Cradley in 1969. It was my first season watching the sport and can remember him being smuggled out of the stadium under a blanket in the back seat of a car. Gary had previously been on the recieving end of Mike Gardner's crash helmet and had allegedly then taken the gun out when he got back to the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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