Scarsy63 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) The rider named is the biggest cheat that i have known in speedway and i have not beeen a fan for a long time (say no more unlesd you want to). I FEEL VERY STRONG ABOUT A RIDER WHO GETS 2 RIDERS ELIMINATED BY STAYING DOWN PRETENDING TO BE INJURED AND THEN GETTING UP AND FEELING FINE. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT LIKE THIS BUT I REALLY THINK IF THIS RIDER CARRIES ON DOING THESE SORT OF THINGS AND GETS AWAY WITH IT THEN I WILL START TO SAVE MY MONEY AND NOT BOTHER WITH GP's ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE AS THIS IS BLATENT CHEATING. Chris Harris after smashing in to the fench heat 20 (near where we were 4 bend) top man for deciding to carry on racing and just shows what a twit and prat is mentioned above. Apologies if the above offends people but there you go. Edited June 29, 2008 by Scarsy63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 to be fair, it was the pillock of a ref that made the decisions, not Nikki. and believe me, no-one is more of an anti-nikki fan than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverstam Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 What a silly post. They all take a dive sometimes, even Chris Harris. And they all take a big smash and walk away and come back. I have seen both Nicki P and Chris Harris do both things. And probably every other rider aswell. It all depends on what they stand to win from behaving in a certain way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady s Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 The rider named is the biggest cheat that i have known in speedway and i have not beeen a fan for a long time (say no more unlesd you want to). I FEEL VERY STRONG ABOUT A RIDER WHO GETS 2 RIDERS ELIMINATED BY STAYING DOWN PRETENDING TO BE INJURED AND THEN GETTING UP AND FEELING FINE. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL NOT LIKE THIS BUT I REALLY THINK IF THIS RIDER CARRIES ON DOING THESE SORT OF THINGS AND GETS AWAY WITH IT THEN I WILL START TO SAVE MY MONEY AND NOT BOTHER WITH GP's ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE AS THIS IS BLATENT CHEATING. Chris Harris after smashing in to the fench heat 20 (near where we were 4 bend) top man for deciding to carry on racing and just shows what a twit and prat is mentioned above. Apologies if the above offends people but there you go. nothing exucuse bad manners and shouting on here is bad manners. it was the ref to blame for very very bad decisions on last nights gp'and yes i am a nicki fan always have been alway will be nicki got some disgusting abuse where we were sitting it made me ashamed to be english oh and i have not follwed speedway long either only since 1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathenBaggie Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 nothing exucuse bad manners and shouting on here is bad manners. it was the ref to blame for very very bad decisions on last nights gp'and yes i am a nicki fan always have been alway will be nicki got some disgusting abuse where we were sitting it made me ashamed to be english oh and i have not follwed speedway long either only since 1970 I'm pretty laid back at speedway these days (only attend GPs since my club Cradley went) but I lost it last night at the pathetic decisions that all went Pedersen's way......................... I'll never forgive what he did to Greg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady s Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I'm pretty laid back at speedway these days (only attend GPs since my club Cradley went) but I lost it last night at the pathetic decisions that all went Pedersen's way......................... I'll never forgive what he did to Greg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am not a fan of greg hancocks never have been but i did applude him. he rode a great race.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateusz Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Always hated him and and always will. And am confirmed in my belief a couple of times every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondfan1986 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 At the end of the day he didn’t stay down to pretend he was injured to get people excluded he done what a lot of riders do so that their team of mechanics can look over the bike and ensure its fine for them when they go back out. Even PL reserves have been seen to do it Sean Stoddart of Newcastle done it at Glasgow is he cheating. The incident with Adams should have been all 4 back but one the ref decided he wasn’t doing that it had to be Adams that went the incident with Holta there was nothing Nicki could have done about that and it was on 2nd bed Holta got out of shape and took Nicki out with him and the one with BP after he had given the 1st decision the way he did he couldn’t have one anything else but this one should have been all 4 back 2 in my eyes all it means is that the ref can’t put them on 2 mins while he is on the ground being checked over by the medical staff he learnt from the very best Ivan Mauger used to do it all the time and look where it got him 6 world titles You seem to have forgotten the final if he was that much of a cheat he would have stayed down in the final to get the race stopped but instead he got up and ran for his bike If it was a Brit (or anyone but Nicki) playing for time you wouldn’t be complaining about it so stop complaining Nicki All sports men and women use the rules to their advantage and that’s all Nicki was doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) You seem to have forgotten the final if he was that much of a cheat he would have stayed down in the final to get the race stopped but instead he got up and ran for his bike What prospect was there in staying down in the final? Not even Marek Wojaczek (mind you, Graham Flint probably could've, if he'd been in the mood to) could've excluded anyone other than Nicki P. Thus, he had nothing to gain from stopping the final, did he? Edited June 29, 2008 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarsy63 Posted June 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Couldnt agree more that the ref was a disgrace but it still does not make what pedersen done right. nothing exucuse bad manners and shouting on here is bad manners. it was the ref to blame for very very bad decisions on last nights gp'and yes i am a nicki fan always have been alway will be nicki got some disgusting abuse where we were sitting it made me ashamed to be english oh and i have not follwed speedway long either only since 1970 Yeah and rightly deserved no wonder he's not riding over on a regular basis of he performs like that (nothing to do with his average) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leanne1706 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I'll never forgive what he did to Greg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Excuse my ignorance, as I haven't re-watched the meeting yet, but what did Nicki do to Greg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) Excuse my ignorance, as I haven't re-watched the meeting yet, but what did Nicki do to Greg? We're going back to Prague in 2004 (I think) for that one, young lady - the one in the rain, when Nicki P and Hancock clashed exiting turn two and Hancock ended up cart-wheeling down the straight. Edited June 29, 2008 by Subedei Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 As many know I'm not the biggest Nicki fan, but this thread is stupid. Yes he got lucky with a number of referee calls that went in his way, but thats not his fault and can't be called cheating in that sense. Yes he stayed down on the track, but thats nothing to do with making sure the ref goes his way. Thats an old tried and trusted way of getting your pit crew to get the bikes back to the pits, clean out the dirt from the clutch and air filters etc etc. Nick can be hard and ruthless and is possibly the most aggresive rider around today, possibly too aggresive but to call him a cheat in this way is like saying Bill Gates can't operate a computer ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laser558 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Nicki Pedersen is not a honest and true speedway rider and his antics are not something new. The guy knows exactly what he is doing and is a cheat of the highest order. How much had he or his team pay the the officials? Desperate men do desperate things and he is not worthy of a true champion. He is nothing more than an little pip squeak who will get what he deserves sooner or later and will I enjoy watching him suffer. He is no loss to British speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rob Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Excuse my ignorance, as I haven't re-watched the meeting yet, but what did Nicki do to Greg? Think whoever said i'll never forgive what he did to Greg is when NP fenced Hancock which lead to the confrontation in the pits. By the way, in the re-run, Hancock then shoved NP in the fence which obviously is fine NP is dirty, Greg is just as bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondfan1986 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 But if he is the cheat you all say he is then he would have stayed down you miss my point i might be a pedersen fan but The incident with Adams should have been all 4 back but once the ref decided he wasn’t doing that it had to be Adams that went he took Nickis wheel and after that decision he couldnt do anything but in the crash with Bjarne (who i am a big fan of 2) as he done the same as adams Nicki was PLAYING FOR TIME on his bikes and like i say you wouldnt have been saying this if it was anyone else that done it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 But if he is the cheat you all say he is then he would have stayed down What would he have gained from staying down in the final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leanne1706 Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 We're going back to Prague in 2004 (I think) for that one, young lady - the one in the rain, when Nicki P and Hancock clashed exiting turn two and Hancock ended up cart-wheeling down the straight. Four years ago? Some people know how to hold a grudge! Which seems a little ridiculous, especially considering as your explanation suggests Nicki wasn't at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I thought my explanation was neutral - you'd have to watch it yourself and make your own mind up. The referee, who may have been Marek Wojaczek (was either him or Tony Steele), called all four back and was heavily criticised for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) Nick can be hard and ruthless and is possibly the most aggresive rider around today, possibly too aggresive but to call him a cheat in this way is like saying Bill Gates can't operate a computer ! I agree with this Nicki Pedersen is not a honest and true speedway rider and his antics are not something new. The guy knows exactly what he is doing and is a cheat of the highest order. How much had he or his team pay the the officials? Desperate men do desperate things and he is not worthy of a true champion. He is nothing more than an little pip squeak who will get what he deserves sooner or later and will I enjoy watching him suffer. He is no loss to British speedway. These guys risk there life week in week out for you entertainment and you wish injury or in this case sounds like you wish more than the odd injury on him like to see you have the balls to go and get on a bike to give us some entertainment and risk your life look at what can happen to riders and think before you speak people like you make me sick What would he have gained from staying down in the final? well you say he is a cheat he would do anything to cheat if he is as big as people say he is Edited June 29, 2008 by bubbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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