PhilK Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The referee is a disgrace The track is a disgrace If this is the best Speedway can offer no wonder the sport is in a mess! The GP series is at a watershed, time for Speedway on speedway tracks!! Great to see Nicholls and Bomber going well, but its really a lottery. ***Post split from referee topic by mod to start new topic*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M08 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Notice how Hans Andersen stayed on after being clobbered by Harris? If he'd gone down, Harris would have been excluded. It was hard riding, not dirty. Pedersen's riding was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 It was hard riding, not dirty. Pedersen's riding was a joke. However you define it, I'm right - there was clear contact and if Andersen had gone down, Harris would have been out. What's the distinction between "hard riding" and an exclusion for "unfair riding"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The referee is a disgrace The track is a disgrace If this is the best Speedway can offer no wonder the sport is in a mess! The GP series is at a watershed, time for Speedway on speedway tracks!! Great to see Nicholls and Bomber going well, but its really a lottery. As are most of the temporary tracks. Do we really have to wait until a rider is seriously injured (or worse) before giving up on these highly dangerous surfaces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashie Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Bjarne Pedersen has been ROBBED. So was Leigh Adams The track is a disgrace If this is the best Speedway can offer no wonder the sport is in a mess! Not sure I agree, the track may not be good, but there as been some excellent racing I thought, for once mainly from the Brits. No, not the best racing meeting, but entertaining. Nicki conned the ref twice. No he never. The ref got it wrong, how the heck can Pederson con the ref when on each occasion he was laying on the track. The referee got it totally wrong on each occasion, do not blame Pederson. And for me, the biggest embarrassment of the night is that idiot Nigel Pearson. I have never heard a sports commentator make such an arrogant and disgraceful comment as 'end of' thus proclaiming his opinion is the only opinion worthy of consideration. Nigel 'scoop' Pearson is the biggest embarrassment to British speedway because if he irritates us fans, imagine what non fans must be thinking, and some may well be turning off. On another more positive note, how great to see Johno doing the pit walk, informative and interesting, and the riders like him so he interviews well. Reminds me of the Brundle F1 pit walk. Edited June 28, 2008 by Ashie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The track is clearly rutted and causing the riders major problems, Ashie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashie Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 The track is clearly rutted and causing the riders major problems, Ashie. Yeah think I agreed it was not the best, but still provided for some entertainment. Not much, but have seen much worse GPs this season. Does look to to be a superb atmosphere though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 WELL DONE CRUMPIE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Yeah think I agreed it was not the best, but still provided for some entertainment. Not much, but have seen much worse GPs this season. Does look to to be a superb atmosphere though. One minute its excellent racing Ashie, then ........ make your mind up You must concede that this was one poor excuse for a speedway track! You should have been at Somerset last night, great racing on a PROPER speedway track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well done Crump, looks like the old Jason is on the way back. Track was rubbish Referee was worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidC Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Gotta agree Phil, seems like Cardiff only provides thrills and spills because of its rutted surface, it can't give the riders confidence riding it. Edited June 28, 2008 by DavidC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 ONYA CRUMPY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 I've been saying the Cardiff track is a disgrace for years. And now presumably we have a Grand Prix with an empty space on the podium, since Nicki P can hardly lay claim to third place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 It was pantomine of sport. A dodgy ref, a suspect track, an Englishmen who bottles it and an Aussie winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew E Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well done crumpy a deserved winner and what a nice man greg hancock is. Terrible meeting crap track and a crap ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Gotta agree Phil, seems like Cardiff only provides thrills and spills because of its rutted surface, it can't give the riders confidence riding it. True David, and these are the best riders in the world trying to navigate it safely at speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervjankefanclub Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 whit is pedersen playin at he got aff the track there like a gazelle could he no have done that in his previous two rides i had dosh on hancock so a wee re-run wouldnt have went amiss and who knows the baw bag in the box might even have let him back in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashie Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Of course he did, NP could easily have stayed on his bike, but on both occasions he put it down knowing that if he stayed on he was well out of it. He chose to put it down both times. When he was walking back to the pits he was pointing at his head as if to say "I used my noggin there" What a load of rubbish, unless you're an international speedway rider past or present then you have no authority to make such a comment. He got pretty battered about tonight, you don't lay it down to get battered about. Don't get me wrong, each occasion I think NP was to blame, but he was not conning anyone, he just got very, very lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 whit is pedersen playin at he got aff the track there like a gazelle could he no have done that in his previous two rides i had dosh on hancock so a wee re-run wouldnt have went amiss I think he was actually trying to complete the race rather than getting off the track,wasn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris26 Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) what was so bad about the track? it's normal for cardiff and any of them who can't ride it can't call themselves a rider of grand prix standard. crump was fine, hancock looked comfortable with it and though excluded in the final, Nicholls was adapting well. HOWEVER, once again, young Nicki saw his popularity stakes fall even further tonight. To see both Adams and Bjarne excluded for absolutely nothing when they were already AHEAD of Pedersen, he is just taking the pi$$... so justice was done in the final when he scored. don't get me wrong, I don't like seeing riders suffer injuries but nicki deserved NOTHING from the final and he got what he deserved. as the old addage goes, "what goes around comes around." mind you, think our polish "pal" needs to get his eyes check or remove the wool from in front of them. that was honestly the WORST and most inadept performance I have ever seen from a referee. that was so woeful, I could have been blindfolded and still done a better job than him. mind you, perhaps wario should be first name... as he looks like he ate all the cream cakes Edited June 28, 2008 by chris26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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