stevehone Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 i can't recall posting anything about Pedersen on here.... until tonight. the Pedersen thread wasn't even read by me too many times as i am not interested..it's just his supporters arguing with his non-supporters. but i watched heat 14 tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 IThe serious issue I spotted tonight was the ineffective air fence. Andreas Jonsson went head first and his head actually slipped UNDER the air bags and must have hit the solid fence behind with quite some force. This raises a couple of points 1. could the air fence be anchored to the ground to protect low crashing riders (AJ is not the first to slide under the fence 2. Was AJ really fit to ride in the re-run. At best he looked dazed and at worst looked concussed. Either way I 'm not convinced he was safe to be in control of a 500cc motor bike. got to agree there, but this is a World Final..oops...GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwayfreak Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 The Overall score for the top 3 riders is: Tricky 115pts Nicki 114pts Crumpie 113pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Isn't it strange how we all view things differently? I thought Nicki was very well behaved tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner_girl4eva Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 With regards to tonight's GP, good racing and nice to see them on a proper racetrack for a change. Very impressed with Tomas Topinka's performance, he really put 2 fingers up to the people who didn't think he warranted a place as a wildcard, he showed them what a capable rider he is and really mixed it with the big boys, I am sure he will get a great reception at Lynn next week Also impressed with Holta, good performace to reach the final and once again Hans Andersen makes the top 8. Although he seemed to put in a much better performance tonight than he did at Coventry this week. Glad to see Hans ans AJ get up after the big accident, thank god for the air fences, it looked very nasty. I am not a Crumpy fan but he did deserve his victory and just can't believe how this Championship fight is hotting up with 2 points seperating the top 3, you couldn't make it any better. I have to say I don't think Nicki Pedersen did anything wrong in Ht 14, I was watching tonight with someone who really doesn't have a high opinion of Nicki and even he couldn't see what Nicki did wrong. I am surprised nobody has tried to blame him for the incident with Hans & AJ. He had a great race with TRick, really exciting, hard racing - if he's as bad as people make out, that would have been a prime oppourtunity for him to have put TRick in the fence but he rode fair. The preview before the GP where Sky made that comment about him putting his own grandmother in the fence, was meant be taken lightheartedly, I don't think Sky were trying to offend. Anyway just my opinion, I don't want to get involved with the war over is Nicki dangerous or not on this forum, we will all have different views so lets respect that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenn Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Bar him trying to take Hans through the fence Nicki seemed reletively alright and well behaved tonight..........though my dad claimed that the Andreas/Hans crash was partly Nickis fault for not shutting off when Holta cut across them all............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 As the commentator said at the beginning "Nikki P would put his own grandmother through the fence if it meant he could win"!! see it's not just us fans sitting at home watching that see him for what he really is :evil: Yawn yawn :roll: Do you really believe Nicki would put a member of his family through the fence just to win a GP :roll: For god's sake grow up and smell the roses :roll: Hey Mark, How's U? Well Shazzy was standing next to me at Eastie when a certain Mr. Crump burst through the wooden fence, injured, just near us ... We reckoned this was not his personal choice , but may have been at the persuasive power of a certain Mr. P. This kind of leaves an impression ... Pedersen roses - too many thorns ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Congratulations Tomas, a brilliant effort. Take that Czech federation ! PS. great race suit ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I thought the opening sequence with the 7 wanted riders was excellent, certainly a new, refreshing twist on things. Yeah loved that..where are these things to advertise the sport inbetween programmes on Sky? As for the meeting, well done to Crumpy. I don't like the guy particularly but he's definitely hitting form at the moment and looked a class above. Fair play, he's got the determination and the engines - all he needs is the luck. Thought Holta was lucky to stay in after that Andersen/Jonsoon crash. And Adams didn't think too much of Nicki P's tactics in that race to the line judging by his body languauge after that race. Other than that a far better GP than a lot recently and the title chase looks brilliant going into the last rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 There wasn't much chance of seeing many forum members in the crowd as 99% of the time the very biased cameraman (he must have been from Poland?) focused on the Polish fans whenever any supporters were shown. Did have a very good view of Julie from Coventry right at the beginning though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Well Shazzy was standing next to me at Eastie when a certain Mr. Crump burst through the wooden fence, injured, just near us ... We reckoned this was not his personal choice , but may have been at the persuasive power of a certain Mr. P. This kind of leaves an impression ... Pedersen roses - too many thorns ... I guess that's the Archangel Crump you are refering to Addy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stranger Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 rider of the night has to go to tomas topinka I'll second that fozzie He was brilliant. Are most of the people on this forum 'Holta fans'? I'm very surprised that only one person has mentioned the incident he caused imo. I couldn't believe that Tony didn't exclude him :? Hate to disagree with my favourite rider, Sam, but I viewed the incident very differently. Sam said that AJ had his wheel in the air when Holta cut across, but the way I saw it was that AJ had his wheel down just before Holta's front wheel came up, and Holta's back wheel took AJ's front wheel. Even Nicki had to shut off quickly to avoid going into Holta as he cut across in front of him. Okay, it's a GP and everyones going for it, but imo Holta rode as though he was the only rider on the track :x :twisted: Am I wrong :?: Did anyone see it differently :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Well Shazzy was standing next to me at Eastie when a certain Mr. Crump burst through the wooden fence, injured, just near us ... We reckoned this was not his personal choice , but may have been at the persuasive power of a certain Mr. P. This kind of leaves an impression ... Pedersen roses - too many thorns ... I guess that's the Archangel Crump you are refering to Addy? Well you weren't there so how can you comment? :?: Bunny & Gem Intro was brill lovely to see the old footage ... Star people Topinka performed tonight pity he couldn't equal it at BV :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I have to say I don't think Nicki Pedersen did anything wrong in Ht 14 wasn't quite heat 14...it was as they went over the finish line. you can see quite clearly NP flick his back wheel out as Adams was on the outside of him... good job Adams had gone past, could have been dodgy for the pair of them.... at least i wasn't alone in what i saw... And Adams didn't think too much of Nicki P's tactics in that race to the line judging by his body languauge after that race. taken from another post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garf Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Anyone got all the scores ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwayfreak Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Overall scores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Well Shazzy was standing next to me at Eastie when a certain Mr. Crump burst through the wooden fence, injured, just near us ... We reckoned this was not his personal choice , but may have been at the persuasive power of a certain Mr. P. This kind of leaves an impression ... Pedersen roses - too many thorns ... I guess that's the Archangel Crump you are refering to Addy? Well you weren't there so how can you comment? :?: I wasn't commenting on that particular incident - my post was based on many observations at many tracks over many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Ah a man of considerable authority (bowing down in awe smilie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittle_face Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 I've not liked pedersen since he fenced one of the riders at owlerton back in 97... Nicki has no chance if you are going to start making up crashes he has caused. He didn't even ride in the country till 1998. Christ im surprised Nicki hasn't been blamed for starting the war, third world debt and Paul Daniels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 Christ im surprised Nicki hasn't been blamed for starting the war, third world debt and Paul Daniels Nice one Skittles I too saw NP try to block LA......I've also seen TRick/ Sullivan/ Olsen/ Nielsen/ Tatum/ Mauger/ Carter/ Havelock/ Crump/ Nicholls/ Gollob/ Hamill (to name but a few) do the same over the years but for some strange reason very little fuss was ever made of it .... I think it's called 'track-craft' when they did it..... :? :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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