AndyM Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yes, I enjoyed the Rockets/Monarchs match. The standard of racing however just doesn't compare with what's on offer at Armadale, for example. I don't know how many meetings you see in a season, Andy, or how many of these are at tracks other than Rye House, but I'm guessing it's not all that many. A meeting at Rye House holds certain attractions: for the nostalgic, it's probably as close as you get nowadays to "old-style" presentation of meetings (I suspect Len Silver tries to model himself on Johhnie Hoskins, and good luck to him). What lets the whole thing down is the lack of multiple lines on the first and second bends; after a couple of heats there really isn't any passing to speak of on the inside. My recollection of the track from the old National League days of the 70s is that racing was better, and I certainly don't remember all that dust from Sunday afternoons there. I know all the arguments about the difficulty of afternoon meetings but they seem to struggle along OK in Poland, don't they? In truth, NO track stands comparison with the good old days at Hyde Road, but I'm darned sure that none of the tracks I've visited in recent years have been any better than the House in terms of quality of racing (including among others Lakeside, Peterborough, Brandon, Kings Lynn, Wolves and Kirky Lane.) I've only seen Armadale on video clips so I can't comment on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Alas not 21CH - Billy Janniro was. Thanks. I'm a little surprised as he was, reportedly, looking forward to working with the young Americans. Ricky in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Congratulations to Len and his team for producing an excellent meeting. A very large crowd were treated to a competitve meeting - only the dust spoilt it but not alot you can do with hot sun and a strong breeze drying the track out so fast. I was very impressed with the boys - especially a couple of the Poles who were not afraid to ride high up the track and really push themselves about. Seeing three riders abreast going into the third bend in one heat I was expecting the worst but they all kept to their lines and produced a thrilling race. Yes - a really good meeting and a credit to the track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Alas not 21CH - but Billy Janniro was and the kid looks good. Yes Bryn i did notice Billy J but only after the racing was done, guess where he was at that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Get in there Troy great performance.. Nice to see him showing Holder the way round! Team Leigh Adams As someone has said above, it's the final that counts. It must have felt good for Troy to get one over on Chris all the same though! I love the rivallry between the pair of them and it's gonna go on for many years to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlyinPanther Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 As someone has said above, it's the final that counts. It must have felt good for Troy to get one over on Chris all the same though! I love the rivallry between the pair of them and it's gonna go on for many years to come TBH - I would pick Holder over Batchelor any day but was very impressed with Troy. The only time he looked in real trouble was in his first outing where he took until the last bend on lap 4 to dispatch the mighty Morten Risager - who for once looked very quick! Thought Tai looked immense again - but I wouldn't expect anything less from the kid around Hoddeston.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I suspect that Lewis Bridger (is that really the future of British speedway?) would not have gone through without the cooperation of Tai Woffinden, but we'll never really know. Future World Champ so many on here have said.Then again i think someone named 3 future Polish World Champs.Can't remember who they were apart from Hampel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Can't say I've been that impressed with Bridger on several viewings, and he certainly didn't stand out in the field yesterday - Ricky Wells looked more spirited and he has a lot less experience. Lewis seems to have stagnated in the past year, but then they did say the same about Eddie Kennett a couple of years back. Riders in that position come to realise that they have to redouble their efforts and work harder to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Yes Bryn i did notice Billy J but only after the racing was done, guess where he was at that time Does that matter a fig? During the meeting he was in and around the pits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't think there's anything to 'worry' about in terms of the progress Lewis is making. He's still a very young rider. He has the best league record for any Brit in the 16-18 years old age bracket for a very long time. He may not be making massive strides, but is doing well enough for his age and experience. I'll be a little concerned if he's not averaging 7 in a decent league by the age of 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Bridger's riding style needs to be honed before he's going to make much more progress IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 My recollection of the track from the old National League days of the 70s is that racing was better, and I certainly don't remember all that dust from Sunday afternoons there. Ah, yes, but that's memories, isn't it? I was making my first visit to Rye in 30 years and barely recognised the place even after I got in! In those days the bikes were quicker (well, they seemed it) and there was never a rain-off (even though I recall walking back to Harlow after one). As for Sunday, a good, good meeting. Well-run and presented, with the guy on the introductions (Craig Saul) clearly having done his homework and seamlessly fluid. If it's another 30 years to my next one someone else will have to drive – I'll be turning the zimmer frame into the corners by then! Oh, PS: Five stars to whoever recommended the fish and chips – excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Does that matter a fig? During the meeting he was in and around the pits. I never meant it mattered, Billy's one of the boys & true as they come & that's how we like him, i sincerely hope any thoughts he has about Ricky have been passed on to Messrs Pratt & Oakes cos that boy is special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) I never meant it mattered, Billy's one of the boys & true as they come & that's how we like him, i sincerely hope any thoughts he has about Ricky have been passed on to Messrs Pratt & Oakes cos that boy is special. No need for Billy J to do that CC for Messrs Pratt and Oakes were both there too yesterday. AND Allen Trump! Edited June 16, 2008 by Bryn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 No need for Billy J to do that CC for Messrs Pratt and Oakes were both there too yesterday. AND Allen Trump! True they we're, i'm sure there wise heads have taken note but it would hurt none for BJ to put his tuppence worth in, come on guys this lad is still only 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 My recollection of the track from the old National League days of the 70s is that racing was better, and I certainly don't remember all that dust from Sunday afternoons there. I know all the arguments about the difficulty of afternoon meetings but they seem to struggle along OK in Poland, don't they? werent these also the days when (dark haired) Len and his track staff had to water the track with a hosepipe..... and there was more dirt down because of uprights? to be honest the racing was better in those days and our old pal Ronnie Russell changed the track forever when he flattened it................. before he took over bend 1 and 2 was banked and would see the likes of barry thomas and kelvin mullarkey consistently use it to its fullest................... however my glasses are not rose tinted and for every 7+ man who could control an upright there was a 2-6 man who struggled to.............. it seems to me that for all of the laydowns faults it does allow riders to be more in control of the bike re: Poland they have sprawling tracks with a lot of dirt where every 4 heats some truck comes on and puts down incredible amounts of water ............ change that to a small track which cannot have the same amount of dirt on it and watering becomes a tricky task..................... one way of getting around it that is for watering to take place for hours in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 to be honest the racing was better in those days and our old pal Ronnie Russell changed the track forever when he flattened it................. before he took over bend 1 and 2 was banked and would see the likes of barry thomas and kelvin mullarkey consistently use it to its fullest................... So that's when the camber appeared, what a shame eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) to be honest the racing was better in those days and our old pal Ronnie Russell changed the track forever when he flattened it................. before he took over bend 1 and 2 was banked To be fair to Big Ron (did I really say that? ) the banking would probably have disappeared anyway when the stock cars took over in the mid 90's and the tarmac went down. Len Silver has had eight years to do something about the banking and 1st/2nd bend camber. Edited June 16, 2008 by Shadders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) lol wierd kind of justification there....the reason the stocks came in was because of ronnie! no one is saying that len doesnt like things the way they are....are they? and the camber is of course of lens own design Edited June 16, 2008 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 lol wierd kind of justification there....the reason the stocks came in was because of ronnie! no one is saying that len doesnt like things the way they are....are they? and the camber is of course of lens own design I think you're being very harsh on a well meaning man who tried his best in difficult circumstances. I won't hear a bad word said about Big Ron If Len Silver thought he could attract more people through the turnstiles and keep a home track advantage by changing the track shape etc..I'm sure he would have done something by now I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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