cometsfan2k4 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Whats the crack with this super prix thing? Is it just a new name for the Grand Prix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichdarter Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 its crap is wat it is,,,i think they have 4 gps with this title ,,cardiff is next super prix..and the 4 winneres race of end of season for the big money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometsfan2k4 Posted May 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 its crap is wat it is,,,i think they have 4 gps with this title ,,cardiff is next super prix..and the 4 winneres race of end of season for the big money That doesnt sound like a bad idea really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Schumi Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Unless the same rider wins all four of the Super Prix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometsfan2k4 Posted May 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Yeh I was just thinking what if a rider wins more than one. I assume then they take the people who finished 2nd etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichdarter Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 why not have winner of every grandprix in it,,not just selected 4 or why not just leve it how it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Unless the same rider wins all four of the Super Prix. Holta? Hmmmm!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Here you go folks.. http://www.speedwayworld.tv/en/sgp/a8859 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 The whole super prix concept leaves me very cold. It is just one layer of competition rules too many. The beauty behind the most successful sports are their sheer simplicity. The new "Super Prix" idea, added to the new points scoring system makes the SGP just a tad confusing for the average punter. Even commentator Nigel Pearson seemed very confused last night, calling Lindgren as the Grand Prix winner, Holta as the Super Prix winner and Nicki Pedersen as the "real" winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 From http://www.speedwayworld.tv/en/sgp/a8996: If a Super Prix event is won by a rider who has already qualified for the Super Prix Final, then the World Championship Final Classification following the completion of Heat 23 in Germany will determine who is awarded this place or places. At the Super Prix Final in Germany, if a rider has won more than one Super Prix he will take the starting gate colour of his first Super Prix win. eg. If he has won in Sweden (red) and Denmark (blue), the rider will have the red starting gate. If qualified riders are unable to participate in the Super Prix Final due to injury or other circumstances, they will be replaced using the World Championship Final Classification. A Wild Card or Reserve rider could qualify to the Super Prix Final in Germany. It is the placing in the Final of a Super Prix which determines who qualifies, not points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Even commentator Nigel Pearson seemed very confused last night, calling Lindgren as the Grand Prix winner, Holta as the Super Prix winner and Nicki Pedersen as the "real" winner. It's not that hard to work out though, and certainly shouldn't be beyond the abilities of a commentator and BSPA Press Officer to get right. I think it just sums up how amateur speedway is these days, even for what is supposed to be the sport's premier event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Why not just take all of the GP winners, and choose the 4 with the most points overall and have those in the race at the end? It seems like an odd idea the way it is but got to give it a chance, will be interesting when a rider wins more than 1 Super Prix GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbin' Along Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 From http://www.speedwayworld.tv/en/sgp/a8996: If a Super Prix event is won by a rider who has already qualified for the Super Prix Final, then the World Championship Final Classification following the completion of Heat 23 in Germany will determine who is awarded this place or places. At the Super Prix Final in Germany, if a rider has won more than one Super Prix he will take the starting gate colour of his first Super Prix win. eg. If he has won in Sweden (red) and Denmark (blue), the rider will have the red starting gate. If qualified riders are unable to participate in the Super Prix Final due to injury or other circumstances, they will be replaced using the World Championship Final Classification. A Wild Card or Reserve rider could qualify to the Super Prix Final in Germany. It is the placing in the Final of a Super Prix which determines who qualifies, not points. Nope, still not getting it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbieoldboy Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Why not just take all of the GP winners, and choose the 4 with the most points overall and have those in the race at the end? Or just leave the winner of the GP series. The World Champion, as the most important rider the world focuses on rather than the bloke who wins a one off race with more money. Or maybey they will let the Superprix rider with the least points in the world championship play a joker for the race and score double points from starting 15 meters in front of the rest of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Think Kelvin must have stuck a foot in Pearsons mouth last night, he suddenly stopped prattling on about the meeting winner when he realised he had confused HIMSELF. What was all that about!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyy13 Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Even commentator Nigel Pearson seemed very confused last night, calling Lindgren as the Grand Prix winner, Holta as the Super Prix winner and Nicki Pedersen as the "real" winner. I dont understand this....so now the winner of a GP thats classed as a super prix....is not necissarily the winner of that gp? So Holta won the race....which in normal, less complicated speedway world means he would have won the Gp...? But now thats not the case? Cos they said Lindgren won the the GP even tho he finished second in the final but got mote points than Holta? So at cardiff.... if just for example Chris Harris won the final... he might not actually be the winner of the GP? The rider with the most point is? I dont understand that....why are the complicating it so much! Im just introducing my boyfriend to speedway and he's seen a couple of GPs and enjoyed them and understood them...but gave up even trying on the swedish one cos of what nigel and kelvin were wittering on about...and i was as confused as my poor boyfriend! Why change a formula that works so brilliantly?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I dont understand this....so now the winner of a GP thats classed as a super prix....is not necissarily the winner of that gp? The winner of any GP is the winner of that GP.Super or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki star 882 Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 I dont understand this....so now the winner of a GP thats classed as a super prix....is not necissarily the winner of that gp? So Holta won the race....which in normal, less complicated speedway world means he would have won the Gp...? But now thats not the case? Cos they said Lindgren won the the GP even tho he finished second in the final but got mote points than Holta? So at cardiff.... if just for example Chris Harris won the final... he might not actually be the winner of the GP? The rider with the most point is? I dont understand that....why are the complicating it so much! Im just introducing my boyfriend to speedway and he's seen a couple of GPs and enjoyed them and understood them...but gave up even trying on the swedish one cos of what nigel and kelvin were wittering on about...and i was as confused as my poor boyfriend! Why change a formula that works so brilliantly?! Holly, whoever wins each individual GP is the winner of that GP, end of story. There are four GP rounds that have been designated as Superprix's. The four riders who win these rounds will contest a race at the last GP of the season for a $200,000 prize, something completely separate from the World Championship. Sweden was the first Superprix, and as the winner Rune Holta automatically gets red gate for the prize money race. The next Superprix winner will get blue gate and so on. They have not announced what will happen if one rider wins more than one Superprix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beercellar Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) personaley super prix sucks, leave the grand prix the way they are, its sky trying to make it better, doesnt need changing or boosting, speedway is great as it is. like why dont sky when at a stadium get the crowd invovled, we here from the guy at the stadium , o we re in the hands of sky, but here nothing from them. so what if there comentating on tv, get the crowd invovled as well, like cheering etc ( im on about the sky persenters) this also includes the gps and elite meetings maybe they d get bigger crowds, just my vew Edited May 30, 2008 by beercellar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollyy13 Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Ah ok thankyou! That makes more sense! But what was Nigel P nattering on about then saying Lindgren had won the the grand prix?! Did he just mean in terms of the fact Lindgren ha dominated it and so was the 'real' winner? Thanks for the explanations guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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