Silver Bee Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I watch Bomber week in week out in league racing and the guy is fantastic. There's no-one in the league he can't live with or beat convincingly. As has been posted, he left Crumpy for dead on Friday at Brandon and easily had the better of Hans at Monmore last Monday so what's his problem? The guy is good enough to be challenging at the top end of the GP series, but at the moment he just isn't cutting the mustard. It's clearly not the bikes as they are far quick enough as showed with his performances against other GP riders in the EL, but quite what his problem actually is, I've not got a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 But, let's be brutally honest, the Elite League isn't really anywhere near the standard of other leagues and is a poor means of judging relative merit. Harris has been poor in Sweden and rides in the second tier of speedway in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 But, let's be brutally honest, the Elite League isn't really anywhere near the standard of other leagues and is a poor means of judging relative merit. Harris has been poor in Sweden and rides in the second tier of speedway in Poland. But how can he beat Adams by nearly the length of the straight at Swindon and Crump by a mile at Brandon e.t.c if he doesn't have the ability? I'm at a loss to know what his problem is. I genuinely think he's good enough to compete with the boys in the GP series, quite what his issues are at the minute, I really don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Because other top riders don't see the British Leagues as their top priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 But how can he beat Adams by nearly the length of the straight at Swindon and Crump by a mile at Brandon e.t.c if he doesn't have the ability? I'm at a loss to know what his problem is. I genuinely think he's good enough to compete with the boys in the GP series, quite what his issues are at the minute, I really don't know. Well Silver Bee , its different to beat Crumps and Andersens one on one in league meetings. In the GP series the opposition is much much better. In the Gps there are tough opposition in all heats The Tracks in the GP series are quite different from the tracks you have in britain and you need allot of experience when it comes to riding technique and machinery set up, especially on the temporary tracks. Chris has been in the GP series less then 1½ season. I think most new GP rider shave problems in the beginning while "collecting" experience from everything that has to do with GP riding (atmosphere, mental pressure and etc). Look at especially Kasper who's new to the GP series this year and almost dont score any points at all. While averging on around 10p in Sweden and Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 edit: and Tai is NOT a brit!!!!!! he made that very clear himself last season! Reading V Rye House, he said to Johno "I was born in Scunthorpe, you can't get anymore British than that" and said very clearly he is a Brit. Hopefully he will come along in the next few years, we need riders like him right now. See Richardson's done well in a qualifier today or recently, hopefully he will give us some hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Well Silver Bee , its different to beat Crumps and Andersens one on one in league meetings. In the GP series the opposition is much much better. In the Gps there are tough opposition in all heats The Tracks in the GP series are quite different from the tracks you have in britain and you need allot of experience when it comes to riding technique and machinery set up, especially on the temporary tracks. Chris has been in the GP series less then 1½ season. I think most new GP rider shave problems in the beginning while "collecting" experience from everything that has to do with GP riding (atmosphere, mental pressure and etc). Look at especially Kasper who's new to the GP series this year and almost dont score any points at all. While averging on around 10p in Sweden and Poland. The thing is Chris has Norrie Allen with him for the GP's, Norrie has huge experience of these tracks, set-up etc from the years with Mark Loram and will (or atleast should) be passing all this knowledge on to Chris! Guess the question is, does Chris take notice or does he think he will ride his own race? Heck I put £1 each way on him for the Danish GP I was so sure he could make it to the final out there Personally, if Mark's leg was up to it, I would ask him to attend a couple of GP's with Chris and Scott as advisor and see if he could help them overcome whatever it is that is holding them back! We all know that both these boys can beat the best on their night, just wish one of these nights would be a GP night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Heck I put £1 each way on him for the Danish GP I was so sure he could make it to the final out there Hey Big Spender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Reading V Rye House, he said to Johno "I was born in Scunthorpe, you can't get anymore British than that" and said very clearly he is a Brit. Hopefully he will come along in the next few years, we need riders like him right now. See Richardson's done well in a qualifier today or recently, hopefully he will give us some hope. Why should he? Never has before, why start now? Hey Big Spender! Hey! that was £2 wasted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Why should he? Never has before, why start now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Why should he? Never has before, why start now? What a load of crap. Richardsons performances for Team GB have often been hugely inspiring, so for 'us' he has given hope. He's 1 rider who always ups his game when wearing a GB race jacket. He had a bad year in his last effort in the GP. It happens. The guy was low on confidence and really struggling but he still stuck at it. Really don't know what the poor bloke has to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 But, let's be brutally honest, the Elite League isn't really anywhere near the standard of other leagues and is a poor means of judging relative merit. Harris has been poor in Sweden and rides in the second tier of speedway in Poland. Couldnt agree more,we have to face the fact that the Elite League is anything but elite and the gap between GP,Poland,Sweden compared to British speedway is massive.Yes Harris & Nicholls do well in our league when it comes to the big meetings whether it be GP or SWC they just arent up to it and anyone who thinks they are are kidding themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 If things stay as they are now, I could see Bomber getting nominated. The best chance England have of getting a second in the 2009 series would be if Tai Woffinden was to win the World U-21 title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Why should he? Never has before, why start now? No thats why he was a world champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 the way things are going I cannot see us having 2 in the series just as much as I cant see us having none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Tai is British, he said so in Oz in the winter, he raced in the GB final and he is in the Team GB squad, he was born here so just how much more British do you want him to be? If you can't grasp that FACT, there's little point in arguing about opinion. Fair enough. Good luck to him when he rides for Australia on wednesday . Cant have it both ways No thats why he was a world champion Lee Richardson was world champion? April fools was months ago!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Lee Richardson was world champion - World Under 21 champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Doesnt count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Fair enough. Good luck to him when he rides for Australia on wednesday . Cant have it both ways I presume you are referring to at Kings Lynn, yes he is but in a MEMORIAL meeting, and Rob Lyon has explained why this is the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 If the Brits cant qualify through qualifiers or top 8 , they dont deserve to be in the SGP series. The only saving grace is that Cardiff is IMG's jewel in the crown. So simply finance and tv is the reason for a Brit. Is Bomber not in the qualifiers ??? If he is and cant qualify via qualifiers or top 8 , why should he be offered a Wild Card... Too early for Tai , great prospect that he is. Wild cards at the moment I would go for Chris Holder and Bjerre but lots of politics before a decision made yet ?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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