Guest chris26 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 there should not even be any wildcards to be honest. well, apart from the wildcard nominated for each event (the 16th rider), I agree that permanent wildcards should be non-existent. We want to see the 15 top riders that the world has to offer and for me, riders who don't make the top 8 shouldn't be offered a repreive with a permanent wildcard. Nicholls just proves that he is not a GP standard rider and blows every chance he gets (yes I know he got in on merit for 08, only just) even then, he relied on knocking someone else off... in his case, Harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 riders who don't make the top 8 shouldn't be offered a repreive with a permanent wildcard. so Nicki Crump has the misfortune of gaining an injury now that keeps him out for the rest of the season and you dont think it is a good idea that they are in the GP's for next season? On the whole the wildcards are worked out well....... they are rarely given to someone who was massively off the pace in the gps that season. There isnt a great deal of time for Bomber and Scott to start scoring but they do still have time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Lets be honest here. Sad to say but both Harris and NIcholls are out of their depth at GP level. Harris especially so. Other than the one off last year at Cardiff what has he done? IMO he should miss out next year. You can't give the best riders 20 metres head start out of the gate and expect to win. A good racer in the EL but that's really it. Ncholls is better and more pro but still lacks what is needed. I think he should be in the series next year, as GB need two riders in the series. Who would the second slot go to? God knows! That's how far GB have slipped on the world stage! Let's hope Woffinden is nurtured along and can enter the series in a couple of seasons. In the meantime we are completely in the speedway wilderness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Lets be honest here. Sad to say but both Harris and NIcholls are out of their depth at GP level. Harris especially so. Other than the one off last year at Cardiff what has he done? IMO he should miss out next year. You can't give the best riders 20 metres head start out of the gate and expect to win. A good racer in the EL but that's really it. Ncholls is better and more pro but still lacks what is needed. I think he should be in the series next year, as GB need two riders in the series. Who would the second slot go to? God knows! That's how far GB have slipped on the world stage! Let's hope Woffinden is nurtured along and can enter the series in a couple of seasons. In the meantime we are completely in the speedway wilderness. Agree that both the brits look out of their depth at GP level.Harris doesnt look quick enough either out of the gates or during the race,Chris Louis mentioned on tv last night that he has been having long term bike problems with a misfire and if thats the case then that needs looking at but in truth that could be clutching at straws.Nicholls is the best we have but can he rely on a wild card pick for 09,a number of non-british rides look to have a better claim to a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hannibal Thomas Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I agree, there is not much going for the Brits at the moment, hopefully Woffiden can step up to the mark, after Woffiden the only young Brits worth their muck at GP level will be Jerran Hart, Brendan Johnson & posibly Paul Starke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) I assume because of the politics of the sport, one of the brits will have to stay in next year. Scott doesn't deserve it because he thinks he's so good he doesn't need to qualify. But how can they give it bomber? a rider who rides 2nd div poland, and struggles in sweden <last week bottom scorer> the bloke is way out of his depth, it's almost laughable when they fly past him. But they weren't flying past him until recently. He clearly hasnt got the equipment to compete. he's proved many times in the past that the ability is there, cardiff last year being the perfect example. Scott on the other hand constantly underperforms and is becoming a joke, and a bore. The way he talks up his chances before each gp before struggling to the occasional point is beginning to get on many peoples nerves. edit: and Tai is NOT a brit!!!!!! he made that very clear himself last season! Edited June 15, 2008 by Cornishman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Well, no doubt we'll be subject to the usual raft of excuses from the British champion, who, let's face facts, is never short of excuses. No doubt he had a bad gate draw, like he did at Krsko, where he made the ridiculous claim that the outside gates weren't such a big disadvantage later in the meeting, in spite of gates 1 and 2 providing the winner of the last eleven races. The inside gate won nine of them. But that was just his pitiful excuse for the fact that one of the times red didn't win, was when he was wearing it. Maybe it'll be time of the month that is the chosen excuse this time around? He's forever telling anyone who'll listen that he "knows he can win one". Well, he's had sixty-one attempts so far and has only made seven appearances in the final. If he was any other nationality, he'd be lucky to have thirty GPs to his name. It's shameful, as are his pathetic excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 But they weren't flying past him until recently. He clearly hasnt got the equipment to compete. he's proved many times in the past that the ability is there, cardiff last year being the perfect example. Scott on the other hand constantly underperforms and is becoming a joke, and a bore. The way he talks up his chances before each gp before struggling to the occasional point is beginning to get on many peoples nerves. edit: and Tai is NOT a brit!!!!!! he made that very clear himself last season! Bombers bikes are fine. He has a near 11 point average from his last 8 EL meetings. Tai IS British. He roe in the British Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 :lol:Bombers bikes are fine. He has a near 11 point average from his last 8 EL meetings. And a 4.00 average in the GPs this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Bombers bikes are fine. He has a near 11 point average from his last 8 EL meetings. Tai IS British. He roe in the British Final. So why are they clearly slower than everyone else down the straights? Yes he's doing well in the EL, but nowhere else. The EL is poor this season because of the stupidly low average rule. And Tai made it quite clear last season that he didnt think of here as his main nationality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 No disputing the fact that Bomber and Nicholls are good solid BEL riders, but that is all I'm afraid, they just cannot seem to cut the mustard on the World stage and are found wanting everytime. Time as has already been said, to let others have their chance, from whatever nation they come from. It's ridiculous to say that the 2 Brits have to be in it for the sake of Cardiff, people don't just go to Cardiff to see those 2 do they . Anyway we would have a British wildcard there. And as for Tai, when Johnno interviewed him the other night on TV, I'm sure he said that "he was born in Scunthorpe and you can't get anymore British than that"!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornishman Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 And as for Tai, when Johnno interviewed him the other night on TV, I'm sure he said that "he was born in Scunthorpe and you can't get anymore British than that"!! Well if that is the way he feels now then great. He is a fantastic young talent and would be a credit to the country. All i was commenting on was an interview last season when he made it clear that british was his 'second nationality'. I for one hope that he has changed his mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Well if that is the way he feels now then great. He is a fantastic young talent and would be a credit to the country. All i was commenting on was an interview last season when he made it clear that british was his 'second nationality'. I for one hope that he has changed his mind Make things easier for him if he was British - with Crump declaring his intention to be around for "a few years yet" and Chris Holder around, it'd be tougher to get into the GPs as an Australian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hannibal Thomas Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Make things easier for him if he was British - with Crump declaring his intention to be around for "a few years yet" and Chris Holder around, it'd be tougher to get into the GPs as an Australian. Once again I think the nail has firmly been hit on the head by young Sub! Its so he gets a free passage into the GPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) Make things easier for him if he was British - with Crump declaring his intention to be around for "a few years yet" and Chris Holder around, it'd be tougher to get into the GPs as an Australian. And of course Rory Schlein oops forgot the tongue in cheek one Edited June 15, 2008 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hannibal Thomas Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 And of course Rory Schlein oops forgot the tongue in cheek one I think there is as much a chance for his Coventry team mate Olly Allen R/R qualifying for the GPs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I think there is as much a chance for his Coventry team mate Olly Allen R/R qualifying for the GPs! Well Tomicek was a hairs breadth away,so there is hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 This should never happen of course because it a world championship and all those in it should there on merit, there should not even be any wildcards to be honest . I thought you were a great fan of everything SGP and IMG/BSI? How on earth would they make their money without the ability to gerrymander the competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 So why are they clearly slower than everyone else down the straights? Yes he's doing well in the EL, but nowhere else. The EL is poor this season because of the stupidly low average rule. And Tai made it quite clear last season that he didnt think of here as his main nationality. He made Hans look silly at Wolves twice on Monday, could not live with him in the GP's. Why? It's not his bikes as he is able to keep up wit (an go faster than) Hans in league racing, yet in a GP he was nowhere near him (Hans 4th, Bomber 3rd from bottom). He left Crumpy for dead at Coventry a few weeks ago and took half a second off the track record. He left Leigh Adams for dead at Swindon a few weeks ago and has got close to the track record twice. Bomber is fact in the EL, he's just not doing it in the GP's Tai is British, he said so in Oz in the winter, he raced in the GB final and he is in the Team GB squad, he was born here so just how much more British do you want him to be? If you can't grasp that FACT, there's little point in arguing about opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 He is able to keep up wit. Good to know he's retaining his sense of humour. Some people are starting to think he's a bit of a joke in the GPs. And I'm one of them. His win in Cardiff looks more and more like dumb luck than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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