screm Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Its time for Ole Olsen to stand down tonights track is a disgrace. The geezer has been in the job too long he is even more miserable than Pete Adams which is bloody difficult. Do the right thing Ole me old son hand yer resignation in and let someone else run the GPs. Having just watched last nights GP,who ever was respnsible for that track whether it be Olsen or A N Other something needs to be done.How many times do we hear riders saying that the track is nothing like what it was like in practise which surely is the point of having a practise session.Seems like its grippy on a friday and slick on a saturday.Hopefully all of the hurt riders from last night wont be out for long but last night was shocking to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) one of the local track responsibility personnel Krister Gardell claimed that they had tried to water the track during the day but that the weather was TOO GOOD!!!???? With too good he means that it was sunny and that the track apparently couldnt handle sunshine. Edited May 25, 2008 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolan Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 i know it sounds silly but why resort to man made tracks when they could do what cricket clubs do and put stands up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 i know it sounds silly but why resort to man made tracks when they could do what cricket clubs do and put stands up. EVERY speedway meeting is held on a man-made track. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolan Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 i know that but ones that arnt made a few weeks before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 i know that but ones that arnt made a few weeks before. I believe you mean temporary tracks. All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolan Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 I believe you mean temporary tracks. All the best Rob Yes thats what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
home straight Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) Whether it's time for Ole to go or not, it is DEFINATELY time for temporary tracks to go. I know they wanted to take the GPs to big stadiums in big cities, but at what cost? It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt as a direct result of temporary tracks. Hans Andersen had an almost identical crash last year on one of these sub standard tracks (Gelsenkirchen I think). Countless others have come to grief on these tracks over the years. It is a dangerous enough sport as it is without the track playing such a big part, speedway should be raced on proper established speedway tracks. Edited May 25, 2008 by home straight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Whether it's time for Ole to go or not, it is DEFNIATELY time for temporary tracks to go. Agreed. Cardiff is invariably an abortion that ruts up. It's usually not a lot different to Ullevi last night. The only difference, as Sam Ermolenko pointed out, is that on a 416 metre track the speeds are much higher than around a track the size of Cardiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Does anyone know the actual structure surrounding Ole's position? Is he employed by the FIM? Is it the FIM and only the FIM who have a say over his position? Does speedway have any say whatsoever about his position? If it is solely the FIM then this is a problem that could go well beyond Olsen ............... why should guys who play the political game well necessarily be good at preparing tracks?...... or even dare I say it have no bias when it comes to preparing tracks that suit their countrymen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jamie Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Ulitmately the feud with Nielsen cost Olsen his job - he was forced to resign as Danish team manager at end of 1985. is the chap who forcd him to resign still alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) The idea of temporary tracks was to have bigger stadiums but whats the point of having 40,000 seater stadium when only 20,000 turn up like last night Edited May 25, 2008 by sancho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolan Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 as i said juts put temporary stands up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Does anyone know the actual structure surrounding Ole's position? Is he employed by the FIM? Is it the FIM and only the FIM who have a say over his position? Does speedway have any say whatsoever about his position? If it is solely the FIM then this is a problem that could go well beyond Olsen ............... why should guys who play the political game well necessarily be good at preparing tracks?...... or even dare I say it have no bias when it comes to preparing tracks that suit their countrymen? should we be worried that no one seems to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 should we be worried that no one seems to know? Sure a number of people know what Ole's position is Ole Olsen has signed a new three year deal to continue as Race Director for the Grand Prix and World Cup series, and Olsen is also a member of the SGP Commission alongside CCP President Roy Otto and FIM Sporting Director Ignacio Verneda. Olsen not only sorts out the track,he picks the wildcards.I would guess he is employed by the FIM.But that is a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 His official title is FIM Race Director, which I'd say tells us who appoints and employs him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Does anyone know the actual structure surrounding Ole's position? Is he employed by the FIM? Is it the FIM and only the FIM who have a say over his position? Does speedway have any say whatsoever about his position? If it is solely the FIM then this is a problem that could go well beyond Olsen ............... why should guys who play the political game well necessarily be good at preparing tracks?...... or even dare I say it have no bias when it comes to preparing tracks that suit their countrymen? As someone who watched the majority of the Leszno GP from the pits, Olsen didn't seem to have much to do with track prep. It seemed to all be done by the locals. People (from their living rooms) were complaining about the track being slick but I can assure you there was plenty of material down, the problems seemed to come from a lack of water. Something which no doubt contributed to yesterdays problems with ruts. It seems they are scared of over watering something which I believe comes from the aborted Sedish GP a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 (edited) The thing is even if he isnt hands on at certain GP's when it comes to track prep the buck ultimately stops with him....... and if he doesnt want the buck to stop with him then an official track prep guy needs to be employed. There is no doubt that someone is regularly getting the tracks wrong .... and usually resulting in slick gating tracks ....which ultimately is not good for the image of the sport and it raises obvious question marks over which riders it does actually suit I fail to see how IMG have no say in who is preparing the tracks that they are financing for the weekend. It is ultimately their purse strings which are at risk and i'm sure they would like to show the event as the spectacle it should be and improve the income...... let alone making sure that regular foot shooting doesnt result in a loss of money and profile I had heard the same about the leszno track and obviously there is an issue with communication between guys who usually prepare tracks for the GP venues and those calling the shots Iris... is that right that Ole picks the wildcards? I thought IMG did? :S p.s. Subedei you make it sound like all is very uncomplicated and straight forward which we all know is never the case in speedway...zero points scored Edited May 25, 2008 by spook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Agreed. Cardiff is invariably an abortion that ruts up. It's usually not a lot different to Ullevi last night. The only difference, as Sam Ermolenko pointed out, is that on a 416 metre track the speeds are much higher than around a track the size of Cardiff. Normally Parken isn't kind to man and machinery but last year it was excellent whilst Cardiff was like a grasstrack (entertaining enough but incredible rough). Well pointed out on the size normally the temporary tracks don't cope with this speed and wonder what Kaparna would have made riding on that week in, week out if they were allowed as originally planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Iris... is that right that Ole picks the wildcards? I thought IMG did? :S Well i think it is that commitee of 3 that rubber stamp the wildcard.That is what Ole said in an interview in the German speedway mag last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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