U21 World Ind. Qualifiers

[adz_mft]

From a Mildenhall point of view i have just heard Jan Graversen scored 8 and Jari Makinnen 2,,Jari had 3 efs and hit the fence

[MisiekRacing]

who is baumann ?

[cyclone]

They better correct Andy Tully's nationality

 

 

Grrrrrrrrrrr

 

Did no one tell them he was a Manxman

[BigFatDave]

Well Done Robbie & Troy!!

 

Go AUSSIE!!

[Fantasy League]

Well Done Robbie & Troy!!

 

Go AUSSIE!!

Full scores from Robert Ksiezaks website http://robertksiezakracing.webs.com/

 

1 Troy Batchelor, Australien - 3,3,3,3,3 15

2 Tobias Busch, Deutschland - 3,3,3,2,3 14

3 Robert Ksiezak, Australien - 3,2,3,1,3 12

Kamil Brzowowski, Polen - 1,3,2,3,3 12

Robert Baumann, Deutschland - 1,2,3,2,2 10

Igor Kononov, Russland - 3,3,2,S,2 10

Michael Hadek, Tschechien - 2,2,1,1,1 7

Erik Pudel, Deutschland - 2,1,0,3,1 7

Niklas Larsen, Schweden - 2,1,1,2,1 7

Andrew Tully, England - 2,1,1,D,2 6

Ben Barker, England - D,D,2,3,1 6

Manuel Novotny, Österreich - 0,2,0,2,A 4

Matic Voldrih, Slowenien - 1,0,1,2, 4

Theo Di Palma Frankreich - 1,0,1,1,0 3

Maxime Mazeau, Frankreich - 0,0,2,0,0 2

Hans Kulterer, Österreich - Dis.,1,0,0,0 1

 

Heat 1 Busch Hadek Brzowowski Novotny

Heat 2 Ksiezak Tully Baumann Mazeau

Heat 3 Kononov Pudel Di Palma Kulterer (Dis.)

Heat 4 Batchelor Larsen Voldrih Barker (D)

Heat 5 Batchelor Novotny Kulterer Mazeau

Heat 6 Busch Baumann Pudel Barker (D)

Heat 7 Kononov Hadek Tully Voldrih

Heat 8 Brzowowski Ksiezak Larsen Di Palma

Heat 9 Baumann Kononov Larsen Novotny

Heat 10 Busch Mazeau Di Palma Malyschew

Heat 11 Ksiezak Barker Hadek Kulterer

Heat 12 Batchelor Brzowowski Tully Pudel

Heat 13 Barker Novotny Di Palma Tully( A)

Heat 14 Batchelor Busch Ksiezak Kononov (S)

Heat 15 Pudel Larsen Hadek Mazeau

Heat 16 Brzowowski Baumann Voldrih Kulterer

Heat 17 Ksiezak Voldrih Pudel Novotny (A)

Heat 18 Busch Tully Larsen Kulterer

Heat 19 Batchelor Baumann Hadek Di Palma

Heat 20 Brzowowski Kononov Barker Mazeau

 

Run Off for 3rd Ksiezak Brzowowski

 

[iris123]

Great meeting in Güstrow.Lots of passing.Really is the best race track in North Germany.

Troy won fairly comfortably.He had to work a bit in heat 12 to come past Tully and Brzozowski but he was untroubled in his other heats.The two Brits were a bit unlucky.Not sure what happened to Ben in his first two heats.Seen on inspeed that he had two punctures!In his first heat he was in 3rd place when he pulled up.In his second heat he was having a great race,in 2nd and i thought he got squeezed out by Baumann in the corner and gave up,but maybe he did have trouble.Andrew(and don't worry he was draped in the Saltire and the announcer said "Tully is not just from Britain,but he is something special,he is from Scotland!)had a great first heat.Last out of the gate but he went round the outside and eventually finished in second.He was also second at the time he had trouble in heat 13.

Of the others Robert Ksiezak impressed me.He had a great battle with Kamil.Robert lead,then was passed but never gave up and it was a real close thing on the line.I thought he got it,but wasn't in as good a position as the ref.But the real star of the show excitement wise was the Russian youngster,Kononov.Wow!!!!!!What a racer.Never made a gate all night,but he picked his way through the field one after another in nearly every heat.Just the fall in the crunch heat 14 spoilt his night.

The Germans...well Tobi is the current German U21 champ and can ride the track well.Still it was a bit of a surprise he done so well.But he had his heats won from the first bend onwards.Baumann is a Güstrow rider so knows the track better than most.Probably the best result of his career so far i would guess.Battled away for his points,as did the youngest rider in the field Erik Pudel.Couldn't quite get it all together,but at 17 he has plenty of chances to go further.

[Chris]

Terrible display from Barker and Tully in that standard of field. Tully can be excused as he shouldn't have been there anyway, but dire from Barker against that opposition.

[ft026]

Terrible display from Barker and Tully in that standard of field. Tully can be excused as he shouldn't have been there anyway, but dire from Barker against that opposition.

 

Were you at the meeting?

[iris123]

Terrible display from Barker and Tully in that standard of field. Tully can be excused as he shouldn't have been there anyway, but dire from Barker against that opposition.

If it wasn't for the two first heats when he had trouble he might have made it through.If he could of held off Robert Baumann in the one heat they would have both ended on 9 and Ben would have been in a run-off.He done well after a terrible start to battle away.It can't be easy mentally to have two e.f's and still keep on trying

 

Fotos from the meeting

Edited June 1, 2008 by iris123

[Lucky Star]

Official results from Pori taken from www.speedway.org

 

1. Linus Eklöf, Sverige, 13

2. Ludvig Lindgren, Sverige, 12+3

3. Morten Risager, Danmark, 12+3

4. Simon Gustafsson, Sverige, 12+1

5. Kim Nilsson, Sverige, 12+0

6. Nicolai Klindt, Danmark, 10+3

7. Leon Madsen, Danmark, 10+0

8. Thomas H Jonasson, Sverige, 8

9. Jan Graversen, Danmark, 8

10. Peter Juul Larsen, Danmark, 5

11. Robin Törnqvist, Sverige, 5

12. Kalle Katajisto, Finland, 4

13. Niko Siltaniemi, Finland, 3

14. Tord Solberg, Norge, 2

15. Teemu Lahti, Finland, 1

16. Jari Mäkinen, Finland, 1

17. Kenneth K Hansen, Danmark, 1

18. Aarni Heikkilä, Finland, 0

 

[Al Stewart]

Terrible display from Barker and Tully in that standard of field. Tully can be excused as he shouldn't have been there anyway, but dire from Barker against that opposition.

 

This is far too harsh and understates the difficulty of racing on continental tracks against riders who know the circuits.

 

[Al Stewart]

Andrew(and don't worry he was draped in the Saltire and the announcer said "Tully is not just from Britain,but he is something special,he is from Scotland!)had a great first heat.Last out of the gate but he went round the outside and eventually finished in second.He was also second at the time he had trouble in heat 13.

 

As always your comments are very interesting, especially good to hear about Andrew who I must confess I thought might do even better on current form. I've put this quote in the Monarchs' programme for those who are not internet types to enjoy.

 

[salty]

Terrible display from Barker and Tully in that standard of field. Tully can be excused as he shouldn't have been there anyway, but dire from Barker against that opposition.

Pretty harsh to say it was terrible. For Tully it was very much an experience gaining trip, Barker was obviously inconvenienced by 2 ef's.

Both riders will benefit from the weekend and will come again.

[PhilK]

Does anyone know when the Semi Final line ups will be announced?

 

 

[Dekker]

This is far too harsh and understates the difficulty of racing on continental tracks against riders who know the circuits.

Doubt he even knows who any of the other riders were Al.... but thats Chris for you.

 

Unlucky lads...

Edited June 1, 2008 by Dekker

[iris123]

As always your comments are very interesting, especially good to hear about Andrew who I must confess I thought might do even better on current form. I've put this quote in the Monarchs' programme for those who are not internet types to enjoy.

That is a great honour

 

Like you and others say,these rounds are never easy,even when some or most of the riders are unknown.I would guess on any other track in the world Baumann would have scored half of what he got last night.He has been riding that track for a very long time now,even given his young age.Probably any other night he wouldn't have got quite so many points.I have seen him quite a bit and never seen him ride so strong as yesterday

[Chris]

Typical English/Scottish attitude. Hard luck boys.

 

That was a rubbishe field no matter if it involved a couple of riders with track knowledge. If a rider of such limited ability as Bob Cheesecake can finish third it says it all about the performance of Barker/Tully.

 

It still looks as though the majority of our under21 boys are like a fish out of water when leaving these shores.

Edited June 1, 2008 by Chris

[Midnight_Lady]

Go bile yer heid Chris

 

Now that's Scottish attitude!

[spook]

Typical English/Scottish attitude. Hard luck boys.

 

That was a rubbishe field no matter if it involved a couple of riders with track knowledge. If a rider of such limited ability as Bob Cheesecake can finish third it says it all about the performance of Barker/Tully.

 

It still looks as though the majority of our under21 boys are like a fish out of water when leaving these shores.

 

yeah indeed it does Chris

 

I wonder the kind of support they received from the GB federation compared to the support given to the other lads from their federations. We see it clearly at every SWC with Danish and Polish man and machinery financed and prepared to the hilt....... and we read about it every year in the Speedway Star............ this year it was Peter Oakes big spread on his experiences supporting the youngsters which left him massively out of pocket because he had to buy them things like race bibs ....... never mind machinery!

 

Sadly one of the biggest lessons for our guys these days is that they will always have to do it all for themselves .... and learning that lesson at this age and in these circumstances will always put them at a disadvantage

 

...... never mind your underestimation about the quality of the rest of the field

 

 

 

Thx for the report Iris..... it is great to hear about yet another exciting Russian..... it wont be long until these guys are getting in the SWC final........ its a shame for Andrew and Ben but they are both going places all the same

 

[Scottie75]

Spook you are quite right, the amount of support the British lads get is nil

 

Ben was driving all the way to Germany in the van until somebody kindly stepped in and paid for his flight at the last minute. Driving would have hardly been the best preparation eh?

 

Chris, you are entitled to your opinion but in an individual event if any rider has 2 Mf's it is likely they won't qualify. That hardly makes Ben a fish out of water does it?