speedyguy Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) Have there been any further developments in the efforts to get Russell Paine's track in Spain running? Edited January 24, 2008 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Check here mate http://www.motospeedway-espana.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badvok Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Think the whole speedway espana thing was pie in the sky. The cancellation of the opening meeting had nothing to do with the mayor. The track was no where near ready and now it seems that they have run out of money and abandoned the project, if wimbledon got going again they could fetch the fence back and make use of it though because it will just go to waste if it's left out there in spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Oh dear. It must have cost them a lot of money in the first place to try and get things going in Spain. Shame it's all come to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Think the whole speedway espana thing was pie in the sky. The cancellation of the opening meeting had nothing to do with the mayor. The track was no where near ready and now it seems that they have run out of money and abandoned the project, if wimbledon got going again they could fetch the fence back and make use of it though because it will just go to waste if it's left out there in spain. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Good attitude! there are quite a few ex-riders out there, maybe they have something in the pipeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ribbons Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote Badvok....." Think the whole speedway espana thing was pie in the sky. The cancellation of the opening meeting had nothing to do with the mayor. The track was no where near ready and now it seems that they have run out of money and abandoned the project, if wimbledon got going again they could fetch the fence back and make use of it though because it will just go to waste if it's left out there in spain".  What utter bol***ks you spout! No wonder you've only got nine postings on this forum You’re like many others, - to many know- it -all's hiding behind computer screens spouting sh*t. That’s why I don’t bother with it any more. BUT, I must respond on behalf of Russell, so for your information Mr Cock, Russell was out in Spain this week dealing with yet more bureaucratic rubbish, which is why the project has been held up for the last 18 months but he's not given up yet!  Steve Ribbons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Quote Badvok....." Think the whole speedway espana thing was pie in the sky. The cancellation of the opening meeting had nothing to do with the mayor. The track was no where near ready and now it seems that they have run out of money and abandoned the project, if wimbledon got going again they could fetch the fence back and make use of it though because it will just go to waste if it's left out there in spain".  What utter bol***ks you spout! No wonder you've only got nine postings on this forum You’re like many others, - to many know- it -all's hiding behind computer screens spouting sh*t. That’s why I don’t bother with it any more. BUT, I must respond on behalf of Russell, so for your information Mr Cock, Russell was out in Spain this week dealing with yet more bureaucratic rubbish, which is why the project has been held up for the last 18 months but he's not given up yet!  Steve Ribbons <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Niced to hear that the project is still on, but I don't think that the tone of your post is very nice, for every know it all there are about 10 others who actually care, and want to see Russell succeed in his project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Well I think Steve had every right to be angry knowing as he does the huge amount of money, time and effort (emotional & physical) Russ has put into his track. I know myself from talking to Russell exactly the sort of cr*p he's had to put up with and that the fact of the last minute change of heart by what passes to planning officials out there was a devastating blow. Really glad to hear he's still battling on Good luck mate.. Â Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don'sfreelancerider Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Well I think Steve had every right to be angry knowing as he does the huge amount of money, time and effort (emotional & physical) Russ has put into his track. I know myself from talking to Russell exactly the sort of cr*p he's had to put up with and that the fact of the last minute change of heart by what passes to planning officials out there was a devastating blow. Really glad to hear he's still battling on Good luck mate..  Derek <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  I Aggree, Fingers X'd for russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Check here mate http://www.motospeedway-espana.com/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Â Not much there since the early part of 2007! Â Â http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) Good attitude! there are quite a few ex-riders out there, maybe they have something in the pipeline <{POST_SNAPBACK}>    Speedway has never succeeded in Spain. Either in pre-war days with Spanish riders (they had starters in the 1936 world championship) nor in post-war years, initially in Madrid with both Spanish and British riders. Then there were two attempts with all British riders in 1950 and 1953 in groups led by Ted Gibson. All started well crowdwise, then interest faded. Same in Majorca in the early 1970s with Ian Hoskins as promoter.  I'll be surprised if this venture, even if it does get a few meetings underway, proves a long-term success, the Spanish people will soon tire of it. They love circuit motorcycle racing and moto cross, events with lots of riders in action. Four on a track for about 60 seconds won't appeal to them.  http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Edited January 25, 2008 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Steve Ribbons <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Hehe I just knew you were lurking somewhere Mr R Nice to see you posting xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted January 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) While there were some Spanish speedway riders involved with the Ian Hoskins venture in Majorca in 1972, previous to that the most active was Alberto Sirvan. Â He raced on tracks in France in the late 1950s and early 1960s. His British rivals included George Bason, Stan Tebby, Pete Rogers and Geoff Harris. Â Â Â http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Edited January 25, 2008 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Speedway has never succeeded in Spain. Either in pre-war days with Spanish riders (they had starters in the 1936 world championship) nor in post-war years, initially in Madrid with both Spanish and British riders. Then there were two attempts with all British riders in 1950 and 1953 in groups led by Ted Gibson. All started well crowdwise, then interest faded. Same in Majorca in the early 1970s with Ian Hoskins as promoter. I'll be surprised if this venture, even if it does get a few meetings underway, proves a long-term success, the Spanish people will soon tire of it. They love circuit motorcycle racing and moto cross, events with lots of riders in action. Four on a track for about 60 seconds won't appeal to them. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway <{POST_SNAPBACK}>   Hi Mr S  I thought the idea was to attract British punters who were on their hols and the expats. Obviously it would be nice to attract the Spanish as well.  Speedway seems to survive in Argentina and Spanish/Argentinean people must be similar types of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badvok Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 my Post may seem a bit harsh but at least it's realistic . speedway has never succeeded in spain and the spanish authorities are notorious for their red tape antics . I would certainly like to see russell succeeed like a lot of other people and have been visiting the speedway espana website to see any progress on a regular basis but since early last year very little has been said the site has not been updated and reading the last post on there it seemed to me that whatever the latest knockback was it was the final straw for russell who has no funds left and has no choice other than to give up .if he does succeed then i will be glad to eat my words and apologise but until then my opinion has not changed .none of the posting was meant as a personal slur against russell paine who has no doubt put his heart soul and bank balance on the line for his and claires dream but unfortunately thats all it sever likely to be . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maneacat Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I too have visited the Speedway Espana website from time to time for news on the progress of this project and posted good wishes on previous threads on this forum. Sadly the lack of updating the website with information does not inspite me with confidence that it will ever come to fruition. If those of us who are genuinely interested are not kept informed (why bother with a website if its out of date) we are unable to ask friends who are expats or holidaymakers visiting that area to check it out. Â SO Russell or Claire update your website please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Hope it comes off but like everything else in speedway I'll believe it when I see it! Â Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p'boro lad Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Russel Payne was at STR yesterday perhaps you could contact him through there web site?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badvok Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Russel Payne was at STR yesterday perhaps you could contact him through there web site?? russell has been at all the str meetings over the last 12 months and has moved back to these shoes so speedway espana despite the rantings of steve ribbons is a dead duck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 russell has been at all the str meetings over the last 12 months and has moved back to these shoes so speedway espana despite the rantings of steve ribbons is a dead duck . Â Â Â I predicted all this would happen in a letter to 'Speedway Star' about three years ago. The Spanish do not like speedway - the races are too short and not enough riders involved in the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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