spin king Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 No nothing to do with Middlo so everyone calm down, just a thought that maybe itis time to change the format of the World Team Cup. I would like to see rather than team of four racing with four teams in a meeting, why not have teams of seven racing one team against one team, like they do in league racing. I would have eight nations competing, and put them into 2 groups of 4, and then have a draw, where by we would have four seeded teams, and they would be the teams that made the the final last year so the seed teams would be; Poland Denmark Australia G.B. Two would go into Group A, and two would go into group B. I would then have a draw for the unseeded teams, these would be teams made up from the following; Swedan Russia Germany Czech Republic Again draw two out for each group, I then have all teams racing each other, the two top teams go into the semi finals, again drawn out of the hat. The teams that finish last in the group would have to next season race off against other nation's to qualify. You could have the draws live on Sky TV, and teams would not know who they were going to face. If the it is based in this Country you could have the following tracks used; Poole Wolvehampton Coventry Eastbourne Peterborough Kings Lynn Birmingham Sheffield I think that having teams riding with 7 riders who show us who is the true World's best team, and after all in the football world cup they don't play 5 a side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 brilliant idea but id would have to been done with possibly less matches so it could fit into a week cos otherwise no-one would approve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 brilliant idea but id would have to been done with possibly less matches so it could fit into a week cos otherwise no-one would approve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My thought was they could run it over a fornight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I would love to go back to having a series of test matches . Like they do in cricket , with the World rankings decided by how you fair in the test matches . There are too many weak nations in speedway to have a competative World cup . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 My thought was they could run it over a fornight. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> id love to see it over a fortnight aswell but its just if "the powers that be" would agree...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 The matches involving the lesser nations would be absolute procession. There's no way Germany, Russia or The Czechs could muster a team of 7 to give the others a match. Plus it would be significantly more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Maybe have the likes of Germany, Russia, Czech Republic etc against each other with the winner of that qualifying group going through to a round with GB, Poland, Sweden, Australia and Denmark. Would ensure nearly all matches were close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I would love to see a 2 team 7 man final but due to running an event in one place over a week it would be lose to much money for it to happen. Maybe the big top 5 could run with this format 3 going into the semi -final the other two haveing a race off to join them ,then two semi's and a final, yet again thou if the host team is not in it would there be a crowd ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 yet again thou if the host team is not in it would there be a crowd ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wouldn't matter in this country, as many people support the swedes, Danes, Aussies and Poles as they do the Brits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Wouldn't matter in this country, as many people support the swedes, Danes, Aussies and Poles as they do the Brits <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good point The uk it is then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony159 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 The final to be run at Eastbourne if the Brits happen to be in it . A final without the Brits to be run at Poole . Both should get a good crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 No nothing to do with Middlo so everyone calm down, just a thought that maybe itis time to change the format of the World Team Cup. I would like to see rather than team of four racing with four teams in a meeting, why not have teams of seven racing one team against one team, like they do in league racing. I would have eight nations competing, and put them into 2 groups of 4, and then have a draw, where by we would have four seeded teams, and they would be the teams that made the the final last year so the seed teams would be; Poland Denmark Australia G.B. Two would go into Group A, and two would go into group B. I would then have a draw for the unseeded teams, these would be teams made up from the following; Swedan Russia Germany Czech Republic Again draw two out for each group, I then have all teams racing each other, the two top teams go into the semi finals, again drawn out of the hat. The teams that finish last in the group would have to next season race off against other nation's to qualify. You could have the draws live on Sky TV, and teams would not know who they were going to face. If the it is based in this Country you could have the following tracks used; Poole Wolvehampton Coventry Eastbourne Peterborough Kings Lynn Birmingham Sheffield I think that having teams riding with 7 riders who show us who is the true World's best team, and after all in the football world cup they don't play 5 a side. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good idea but I'd have Sweden as the forth seed and GB unseeded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PanthersChamp06 Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Wont happen..... have another year off poor weather, thats another week lost on speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Good idea but I'd have Sweden as the forth seed and GB unseeded <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seeds based on last years World Team Cup finishing places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintschris Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 The final to be run at Eastbourne if the Brits happen to be in it . A final without the Brits to be run at Poole . Both should get a good crowd. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yep i defo agree with the final being held at eastbourne possibly the best prepared track in the world and of course would definately suit the danes as they all no the track rather well Nicki P, Hans, Bjarne, Kenneth, Morten lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveEvans Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 This is a great idea. In the group round I would suggest that at 1 meeting there are 2 matches of 10-12 heats each. This would prevent interest being lost where you had Poland Vs Germany and you just know its going to be lots of 5-1s all the way. Maybe go up to 15-18 heats for the semi's and final. The current WTC format gives exciting racing so I don't see it changing. but I prefer the above so the world can see the art of team riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Kestrel Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I'd like to see a tournament similar to the ice hockey world championship structure. Have nations of comparable strength split into divisions. For instance:- World Championship Division - Poland, Denmark, Australia, England, Sweden and Czech Republic Division 1 - USA, Russia, Finland, Germany, Slovenia, Hungary. Division 2 - Latvia, Norway, Italy, Scotland, France, Croatia Division 3 - Ukraine, Austria, Wales, Argentina, Holland, Canada Division 4 - Slovakia, New Zealand, South Africa, Romania, Malaysia, Estonia, Bulgaria. Annual tournaments, six man teams, two groups of three, race each other once. Top two from each group battle it out for the medals with semis/final and the two nations who finish bottom of the division raceoff with the victors staying in the division and the losers being relegated to the division below. With the winners of the lower division winning promotion. So you'd have a week long event for all the divisions, with a separate country hosting each tournament. The logistics of the lower nations competing could prove problematical due to finance, etc. A few of the nations would struggle to find six riders but i'd be interested to know if it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I'd like to see a tournament similar to the ice hockey world championship structure. Have nations of comparable strength split into divisions. For instance:- World Championship Division - Poland, Denmark, Australia, England, Sweden and Czech Republic Division 1 - USA, Russia, Finland, Germany, Slovenia, Hungary. Division 2 - Latvia, Norway, Italy, Scotland, France, Croatia Division 3 - Ukraine, Austria, Wales, Argentina, Holland, Canada Division 4 - Slovakia, New Zealand, South Africa, Romania, Malaysia, Estonia, Bulgaria. Annual tournaments, six man teams, two groups of three, race each other once. Top two from each group battle it out for the medals with semis/final and the two nations who finish bottom of the division raceoff with the victors staying in the division and the losers being relegated to the division below. With the winners of the lower division winning promotion. So you'd have a week long event for all the divisions, with a separate country hosting each tournament. The logistics of the lower nations competing could prove problematical due to finance, etc. A few of the nations would struggle to find six riders but i'd be interested to know if it would work. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would go for that idea as well, I just think that I would like to see teams of 7 riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enotian Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I would go for that idea as well, I just think that I would like to see teams of 7 riders. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How about an un programmed reserve to take it up to seven man teams. I think that format would be excellent as perhaps the 7th and 8th ranked teams wouldn't be a match for the likes of Denmark. Or how about rotating the format on a 4 year basis? For example:- 2008: 6 or 7 men teams 2009: Pairs (using the old knockout GP format) 2010: Four Team Tournament 2011: Individual World Final (3 qualifiers, 1 repecharge + a final) 2012: bach to 6 or 7 men teams etc etc Variety is the spice of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I would like to see rather than team of four racing with four teams in a meeting, why not have teams of seven racing one team against one team, like they do in league racing. Because there would only be about four or five countries strong enough to track competitive sides. The other problem is that most of the meetings wouldn't have any home interest, so would be a financial disaster. Even if you went for a home-and-away format, it's impractical for the like of Australia and the US to ride home meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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