Addy Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 I wonder how many people asked for their money back :?: The people who travelled out there from the UK have much greater expenses than the cost of the ticket ... See the third posting on this thread Addy :roll: :clown :roll: great minds think alike Must have missed that post whilst reading the multitude of others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 What about the effect on British speedway :?: Ipswich/Oxford on Thurs,Oxford/Poole on Fri,Eastbourne/Poole Sat,Cov/P'boro Sat :?: How the hell are the fixtures going to be finished by the cut off date :roll: Words fail me :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 On the showing of these one off tracks (not just Ullevi), they are shooting the sport well and truly in the foot. Sorry Honey it's got to be said even if wrong here but........ One off tracks hmmmmmm Cardiff is a one off track to which you have not (to my knowledge) attended. I for one thought the first two years were race wise excellent, 3rd year maybe the track was not as good but still well worth the entrance money. inc. the overnight travel home afterwards. My friends that came to Arlington with me last weekend have already decided they are going to Cardiff next year. That after an Elite league meeting, not a GP. One things for certain there is a roof so no need for a rain-off, that's the beauty of Cardiff guaranteed a meeting, even for those that only attend one meeting a year How many rained off meetings, not neccessarily a GP or NLRC or even a BLRC have you attended but still not been put off the sport, no matter how far the travelling was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 If they upgrade I would have thought a permanent one Kev. Twice the size of the present in order to get Shov's 500,000 fans in. Blimey SB that's ambitious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted August 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 On the showing of these one off tracks (not just Ullevi), they are shooting the sport well and truly in the foot. Sorry Honey it's got to be said even if wrong here but........ One off tracks hmmmmmm Cardiff is a one off track to which you have not (to my knowledge) attended. I for one thought the first two years were race wise excellent, 3rd year maybe the track was not as good but still well worth the entrance money. inc. the overnight travel home afterwards. My friends that came to Arlington with me last weekend have already decided they are going to Cardiff next year. That after an Elite league meeting, not a GP. One things for certain there is a roof so no need for a rain-off, that's the beauty of Cardiff guaranteed a meeting, even for those that only attend one meeting a year How many rained off meetings, not neccessarily a GP or NLRC or even a BLRC have you attended but still not been put off the sport, no matter how far the travelling was? i've been to plenty of rained-off meetings the same as everyone and still turned up the following week... but there was a word in there that makes the difference...rain. if the GP at Ullevi had been rained off it would be a different story...something people actuallydo accept as it happens. With the one off tracks, the racing on the whole has been terrible, and as far as i am concerned tonights farce just about sums it all up. i've been to Ullevi for a world final when it was a proper speedway track and had a fantastic time, and i was sat watching tv tonight thinking about the fans from England, Poland, Denmark etc etc and how must they feel having a meeting called off not because of rain but because mistakes were made laying the track. pretty hard to swallow in my book. who did the one-off track for the LA Colisseum in 1982? i was there and thought the racing was good, and i don't recall the track cutting up badly like they do now, so maybe BSI should look elsewhere. what you say about Cardiff is correct in that i haven't been there, but in Cardiff it is all about atmosphere. I have watched the Cardiff GP's on tv and so am not sampling the atmosphere, so what i have to do is watch the racing. in my book it is not the best, and there are a lot of armchair fans that will have the same opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Next year get ya hand in ya pocket and sample Cardiff............. as they old saying goes "Don't knock it til ya try it" Yes speedway is about entertainment (and I don't mean Edwin Starr, Suzi Quatro or The Blues Bros ) but atmosphere also plays a big part. Whatever happend to the riders having an opinion on riding the tracks anyway :?: their the ones risking life and limb for our entertainment and the promotors pockets :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex bulldog Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Whatever happend to the riders having an opinion on riding the tracks anyway :?: their the ones risking life and limb for our entertainment and the promotors pockets :!: Very true ! Riders should not be put at risk for profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted August 23, 2003 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Next year get ya hand in ya pocket and sample Cardiff............. as they old saying goes "Don't knock it til ya try it" Yes speedway is about entertainment (and I don't mean Edwin Starr, Suzi Quatro or The Blues Bros ) but atmosphere also plays a big part. Whatever happend to the riders having an opinion on riding the tracks anyway :?: their the ones risking life and limb for our entertainment and the promotors pockets :!: ditto that.. with regards to Cardiff.... not intersted in going to a GP too much. to me going to a world final means seeing the world champion at the end of the meeting and i miss those. i would much rather go to somewhere like Bradford for a final or a GP (and yes i went to the last one off final and GP there) and have fantastic racing, whatever is at stake. the GP IMO is all about money first, rider safety second... why else would they bring in the 5 in a race for the SWC?? and on bloody small tracks too!! Atmosphere is secondary for me, i would rather see good racing. If you're asking me to put my hand in my pocket to sample atmosphere alone i'm not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Having just sat and watched the GP first three races all over again, my dad has just turned up at my house (to collect his birthday card, always an alterior motive, except he wont be too pleased with this one as he is 60 today! can't even talk him into Collier Street this afternoon at OAP prices ) and his opinion on the track is " should have gone around with a mass load of cars, rolled it in tight, re-graded and re-tire again" Steve totally agree (blimey did I just say that :? ) one off finals are the best, it comes down to all on the day that way and not just building of points up, as much as I'm a Mark Loram fan he wouldn't have won that year as he never got 1st on the rostrum for the whole series, so in one respect I was pleased with a GP style that year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 I vote Sean in to lay the next track wwooooooaaaahh!!! don't get me involved...this is World championship Grand Prix's luv!... anyway..i am way too busy this week with my own projects and i haven't got any holidays left at work because of early season rain offs and other meetings so i am afraid, i won't be able to take up your offer Ms Addy, and i don't think that Mr.Postlewaite and Mr.Olson would approve of my conditions...i mean could you see my kids running round Ullevi climbing on the tractors and "playing speedway" in the pits while i prepare the track?? Tricky and Crumpy would love that wouldn't they....."hey Mr Rickardsson, can i sit on your bike before this race please?" poor old lambchop was upset enough with the manner of a certain GP rider at Eastie on saturday, i couldn't let him loose in the GP pits..it would break his heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Just got back from Gothenburg completely agree with the sentiments of Mr Hone, Sean etc getting a refund not bothering with going to the restaging. I see Waggy still wants to go ahead with Oxford v Poole next Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leg Trailer Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Now I'm the last person to defend Olsen as I think the guy is so far up his own ass he'd need a spade to dig himself out again but one thing I have noticed is that people moan about Olsen being too much of a busy body. He pokes his nose into everything and tries to be "the man", right? Now, when something goes wrong we all shout out that Olsen neglected his duties and should be hung. Can anyone else spot the inconsistancy here? Personally, I think BSI are getting an easy ride critisim-wise here but I stand to be corrected as I'm not 100% sure of their involvement. I do know that the Postlethwaite chappie seems very personable so therefore will receive less critisism than Olsen who let's face it, asks for it with his attitude. Devils advocate? Me???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofdiamonds Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 How can BSI as a a world speedway icon have any kind of excuse for Saturday. They had all week to provide a " man made track " so what happened? The wrong surface etc etc. Sorry but does it take a week to realise that. BSI must realise now that in their greed they have totally cocked up, lucky to get away with it for so long. My sympathies for the poor fans who went to Ullevi and likely won't be able to return. What a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREDON Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Just suppose on Saturday 20,000 new fans turn up without tickets, where are they going to sit. The organisers will not know who is not coming until tickets for refund have been sent back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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