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9 hours ago, wealdstone said:

Whilst it is evident that Stock Cars and the like are far more successful  spectator wise than Speedway , personally I have never been able to see the reason

A  possible reason is that you follow speedway in its supposed team concept whereas 'stock cars' are individual events and therefore interest focuses on how a favourite driver performs.

Also in 'stock cars' there is a varied choice of watching either contact or non-contact racing.

Speedway in its true concept is an individual sport masquerading under a team concept but without genuine club allegiances as is, for example, the case with football, rugby (both codes) and many other non-motorised sports

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12 hours ago, gustix said:

...but with the short circuit car racing carrying on for another 11 active seasons at Wimbledon Stadium. 

You make me laugh Gustix. You know the answer because you asked exactly the same question / made the same comment on Facebook. You asked

'The puzzles is how after the end of speedway at Plough Lane did Spedeworth Motorsport and short circuit car racing survive there for I think another 11 seasons?' 

and Ian Perkin responded to you

' the reason why cars continued and speedway did not was because to run speedway the BSPA require that you enter into a contract with the stadium you use to help provide assurance that you can complete the season and not pull out mid season.  Once the GRA sold their stadiums to Risk Capital Partners they were no longer prepared to lease Wimbledon Stadium to us anymore.  The cars on the other hand never had a lease with the stadium they ran on a week to week basis as the didn't have to produce a contract to get licensed by their governing body so Risk Capital Partners
could end their events whenever the re-development started.   Ian'

 

 

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12 hours ago, gustix said:

...but with the short circuit car racing carrying on for another 11 active seasons at Wimbledon Stadium. 

 

22 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

You make me laugh Gustix. You know the answer because you asked exactly the same question / made the same comment on Facebook. You asked

'The puzzles is how after the end of speedway at Plough Lane did Spedeworth Motorsport and short circuit car racing survive there for I think another 11 seasons?' 

and Ian Perkin responded to you

' the reason why cars continued and speedway did not was because to run speedway the BSPA require that you enter into a contract with the stadium you use to help provide assurance that you can complete the season and not pull out mid season.  Once the GRA sold their stadiums to Risk Capital Partners they were no longer prepared to lease Wimbledon Stadium to us anymore.  The cars on the other hand never had a lease with the stadium they ran on a week to week basis as the didn't have to produce a contract to get licensed by their governing body so Risk Capital Partners
could end their events whenever the re-development started.   Ian'

Aren't you a little confused Sir Sidney? My item as quoted by you was a comment not a question. Read it carefully and notice the difference! Then have a laugh - at yourself!

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29 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

You make me laugh Gustix. You know the answer because you asked exactly the same question / made the same comment on Facebook. You asked

 

 

 

We have had years of it.Asking the same questions,posting the same comments over and over like a stuck Frankie Vaughan record.Nobody takes the old boy serious.

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26 minutes ago, gustix said:

 

Aren't you a little confused Sir Sidney? My item as quoted by you was a comment not a question. Read it carefully and notice the difference! Then have a laugh - at yourself!

What a shame I'm not a journalist. Thank you for pointing out my failings. I tried and failed to indicate that you asked the question on Facebook.

The point remains that you already well know why cars continued and speedway didn't. Nothing to do with viability - all to do with the commercial aims of the owners.

Off out now to have a laugh at myself. I frequently do so. 

Are you going to the Dons Den event on Friday? Perhaps I could buy you a drink and we could have a chat about it.

Enjoy your day

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19 minutes ago, iris123 said:

We have had years of it.Asking the same questions,posting the same comments over and over like a stuck Frankie Vaughan record.Nobody takes the old boy serious.

You obviously are not up to date with your Facebook exploits these days. Modestly I would say I am "...a welcome guest..." on some of the groups. Even their Mods sometimes make a point of thanking me for my comments. And that includes the FB group that well matches the BSF in regard to its membership size. But then reactions of your type towards me have been your BSF stock-in-trade (and pointed out by other BSF members) for years. It boils down to the fact that "...a troll will always deny being a troll..."

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1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said:

What a shame I'm not a journalist. Thank you for pointing out my failings. I tried and failed to indicate that you asked the question on Facebook.

The point remains that you already well know why cars continued and speedway didn't. Nothing to do with viability - all to do with the commercial aims of the owners.

Off out now to have a laugh at myself. I frequently do so. 

Are you going to the Dons Den event on Friday? Perhaps I could buy you a drink and we could have a chat about it.

Enjoy your day

There was no personal intent on my part Sir Sidney. I appreciate and respect your reasoning for the Post now. So far as The Dons Den event on Friday is concerned I will not be there but as you may have noticed it has received much coverage on various Facebook groups and the indications are that it will be a big success -as it deserves to be. I hope you have an enjoyable evening Sir Sidney.

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25 minutes ago, gustix said:

You obviously are not up to date with your Facebook exploits these days. Modestly I would say I am "...a welcome guest..." on some of the groups. Even their Mods sometimes make a point of thanking me for my comments. And that includes the FB group that well matches the BSF in regard to its membership size. But then reactions of your type towards me have been your BSF stock-in-trade (and pointed out by other BSF members) for years. It boils down to the fact that "...a troll will always deny being a troll..."

We are on the BSF and so I am only talking about the BSF.No deflection

As for the troll part....if the cap fits:rolleyes:

Not been a good week for you here!!!

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55 minutes ago, iris123 said:

We are on the BSF and so I am only talking about the BSF.No deflection

As for the troll part....if the cap fits:rolleyes:

Not been a good week for you here!!!

That's a matter of opinion! I used to be responsible for the Readers Letters pages for a time at the 'South London Press'. Comments in the context of your Posts were quite frequent. We had a spike for them. You would have been a prime candidate so far as most of your wind-up utterances are concerned. 

On the BSF you have from PMs I receive from one-time BSF regulars specialised in upsetting quite a few Posters to the extent they have ceased contributing. BTW I now wait with some amusement the next utterance from you.

A great pity this thread has so sadly deviated from 'Wimbledon Memories'. Hopefully it will return to the theme it was designed for.

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28 minutes ago, gustix said:

 

On the BSF you have from PMs I receive from one-time BSF regulars specialised in upsetting quite a few Posters to the extent they have ceased contributing. BTW I now wait with some amusement the next utterance from you.

A great pity this thread has so sadly deviated from 'Wimbledon Memories'. Hopefully it will return to the theme it was designed for.

Same here.I receive a few messages about you.Someone even mentioned how your name was mud with a few riders.Everyone can see how you post rubbish in the hope of disrupting threads all over the place just this week and got shot to pieces

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Just now, iris123 said:

Same here.I receive a few messages about you.Someone even mentioned how your name was mud with a few riders.Everyone can see how you post rubbish in the hope of disrupting threads all over the place just this week and got shot to pieces

The underline is a surprise! I have no concerns because I don't know any current riders so it's doubtful that at first hand I have been in debate with any of them or have need to do so.  

Many riders I knew from the old days of speedway are co-members of the same Facebook groups as me. Frequently when I mention one of them they respond with the LIKE sign.

So, as far as the context of your Post is concerned "...I won't be losing any sleep in regard to the remark..."

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1 hour ago, gustix said:

 

So, as far as the context of your Post is concerned "...I won't be losing any sleep in regard to the remark..."

Ditto. Which makes me wonder why you keep posting this stuff, as if I care one iota !!!:blink::D

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3 hours ago, iris123 said:

Same here.I receive a few messages about you.Someone even mentioned how your name was mud with a few riders.

 

2 hours ago, gustix said:

The underline is a surprise! I have no concerns because I don't know any current riders so it's doubtful that at first hand I have been in debate with any of them or have need to do so.  

Many riders I knew from the old days of speedway are co-members of the same Facebook groups as me. Frequently when I mention one of them they respond with the LIKE sign.

So, as far as the context of your Post is concerned "...I won't be losing any sleep in regard to the remark..."

 

1 hour ago, iris123 said:

Ditto. Which makes me wonder why you keep posting this stuff, as if I care one iota !!!:blink::D

Re your latest quote: I respond because you in your vanity design comments to ensure that a response is made of the kind that you will be able to continue the 'slanging match' style that pervades most comments you place on the BSF. A matter that will ensure this comment from will get your usual attacking nonsense.

Now what about restimulating Wimbledon Memories?  

PS: A search on Facebook fails so far to find any indication here some riders dislike my comments. Are you having porkie pies for lunch today (I acknowledge you highlighted this amusing comment previously. Nice one.)

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Just now, gustix said:

 

 

 

Now what about restimulating Wimbledon Memories?

I think you will find I tried that in the previous post.Just as others have tried on many occasions without success when you are around.We had a lovely time when you were absent:drink:

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1 hour ago, iris123 said:

Nigel has his last official meeting in the UK in 1974,but s here late 1975 in Rhodesia !!!

http://www.speedway-sa.com/resources/Rhodesia_2018/1975 only Fix%2BResults.pdf

So maybe again........

Nigel Rackett's UK record taken from WWOS

1970..Wimbledon..9..24..11..3..2.33
1970..Rayleigh..9..37..48..11..6.38
1971..Wimbledon..1..3..2..1..4.00
1971..Rayleigh..17..69..100..10..6.38
1972..Wimbledon..1..2..2..0..4.00
1972..Rayleigh..10..32..34..7..5.12
1974..Long Eaton..5..15..3..2..1.33

http://wwosbackup.proboards.com/thread/2442/nigel-rackett

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2 minutes ago, iris123 said:

I think you will find I tried that in the previous post.Just as others have tried on many occasions without success when you are around.We had a lovely time when you were absent:drink:

With my historical knowledge of Wimbledon Speedway (proven by articles in many publications over the years!!!) I think that I am qualified to debate memories of speedway and other happenings there. How about when they had a professional baseball team there in the mid-1930s? Oops - not motorsport!!!

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Does any member recall a period in the late 1950s when Wimbledon for a few meetings staged second-half races for standard-type road bikes? Offhand I think they were described as stock bike races. The best rider was Pete Rogers. Can anyone recall other race participants. I would also like confirmation that the bike engines were 500cc. 

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