fatface Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Good on you Grachan for doing that for the Mail. But it does support the point. Nationally respected writers like Peter Oakes, Phil Rising and Dave Lanning have all written for the Star. Even now, I think I'm right in saying that even all the match reporters are full-time journos on their local rags too. Considering speedway is a relatively small sport in Britain, the quality of the Star is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Nobody seems to have mentioned 'five-one' magazine. It was a monthly mag a few years ago, that wasn't too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 Another monthly magazine from the same people as the Speedway Star was the Speedway Express which was a good read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 Anyone remember the Mail seller @ Canterbury used to give me sweets every week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 we won't go into that Shazz.... sure he doesn't fancy ending up in court Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 lol I was gonna go on and say you couldn't do that these days else you would end up in court! thought it might open up a can of worms so didn't bother lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 Anyone remember the Mail seller @ Canterbury used to give me sweets every week! He was a top guy - when I was a kid I used to collect badges from the tracks I visited but couldn't get one from Newport. It took him a few weeks, but he managed to get hold of one for me. Does anyone remember the board with the riders' photos, rosettes, badges etc on that he used to carry round the track? The memories are coming back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 And I EDITED the Speedway Mail for a spell and totally agree with your comments on payments!!!! :x :!: When was that? I remember Ian MacDonald as editor, then a Tony McDonald/John Bolle period. I also did a stint for a few months between the departure of Ian Mac and arrival of Tony. The MacDonalds were not related. I was involved with the Mail between 1973 and early 1984. Any pay - for what I did as a freelance I was satisfied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Reading all the previous comments was a great trip down 'Speeway's Memory Lane.' My first favourite magazine back in 1946 was 'Speedway Gazette' then co-edited by Basil Storey and Tom Morgan. I think the 'Gazette' must have ended about 1955, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 2/10/2003 at 11:12 AM, Grachan said: I wrote for Speedway Mail for a while. Crap payers! Not when I did some years of regular evening and weekend shifts there (after a daily toil at the 'South London Press'). The pay rates I negotiated were comparable to similar earnings elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) On 2/14/2003 at 5:36 PM, falcace said: I did get the Mail, but I always thought the Star was superior. 1. Colour photos, 2. Proper journalists A rather harsh comment falcace. I did shifts there away from a day job in a local newspaper where I was also the father on their National Union of Journalists chapel. And many of the Mail's contributors also had full time jobs on local newspapers. Edited January 20, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 3 hours ago, gustix said: A rather harsh comment falcace. I did shifts there away from a day job in a local newspaper where I was also the father on their National Union of Journalists chapel. And many of the Mail's contributors also had full time jobs on local newspapers. Erm, let me get this right...you are digging out quotes from 16 years ago to revive a long-gone discussion? I've heard of quiet Sundays, but this is something else! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 4 hours ago, gustix said: A rather harsh comment falcace. I did shifts there away from a day job in a local newspaper where I was also the father on their National Union of Journalists chapel. And many of the Mail's contributors also had full time jobs on local newspapers. 36 minutes ago, falcace said: Erm, let me get this right...you are digging out quotes from 16 years ago to revive a long-gone discussion? I've heard of quiet Sundays, but this is something else! Does it matter that the debate is about a topic started 16 years ago! It's still something that I feel is of interest falcace. And the thread title is YEARS GONE BY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 The Mail was inferior. If it wasn't it would still be here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, ch958 said: The Mail was inferior. If it wasn't it would still be here I agree entirely that Speedway Star was far superior to Speedway Mail. I also had during my very early years in journalism several years working at the Star. This dispute is not about differences in standards between the two publications but an assertion that the Mail did not have 'proper journalists' involved with it. That is the factor which I dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, gustix said: Does it matter that the debate is about a topic started 16 years ago! It's still something that I feel is of interest falcace. And the thread title is YEARS GONE BY. I don't think the years gone by name is to do with the age of the posts John. 1 hour ago, falcace said: Erm, let me get this right...you are digging out quotes from 16 years ago to revive a long-gone discussion? I've heard of quiet Sundays, but this is something else! 16 years has to be a record surely for the longest time waiting a reply.. bloody hell only Gustix would be trawling thru the archives on a lovely sunny day in London and feel the need to chirp in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Doctor... said: I don't think the years gone by name is to do with the age of the posts John. 16 years has to be a record surely for the longest time waiting a reply.. bloody hell only Gustix would be trawling thru the archives on a lovely sunny day in London and feel the need to chirp in. A good point to raise in regard to the pleasant sunny weather The Doctor. However in the world at large many happenings of the past eventually surface for discussion. That has now happened in this thread regarding staff at the 'Speedway Mail' in the 1970s. I read in a newspaper yesterday that investigations may start in regard to actions by the Japanese army when they initially invaded China in 1937. On that trend the happening of the past are always likely to surface at some time. In the context of the Post by falcace I am linked as not being 'a proper journalist' when working for 'Speedway Mail' when such was far from the factual case. Edited January 20, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 Tbh John,nobody can damage your reputation quite as much as you do,yourself You have started to make a few decent posts.Surely you can see the difference and can also see the damage you have done to yourself over the years and still do at times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, gustix said: A good point to raise in regard to the pleasant sunny weather The Doctor. However in the world at large many happenings of the past eventually surface for discussion. That has now happened in this thread regarding staff at the 'Speedway Mail' in the 1970s. I read in a newspaper yesterday that investigations may start in regard to actions by the Japanese army when they initially invaded China in 1937. On that trend the happening of the past are always likely to surface at some time. In the context of the Post by falcace I am linked as not being 'a proper journalist' when working for 'Speedway Mail' when such was far from the fact. Many happenings of the past surface for discussion ? Have i missed the recent news with speedway mail in recently then ? If so, apologies - however it does look like you just wanted to tell an anecdote about your worklife and take a 16 year old message to task, when to any sane person, it was clear what the tone of it was. Can i also say, i don't see where falcace referred to the speedway mail in the 1970s in his message you've taken umbrage to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) The fact is Grachan proved the point to be true.He was a fan who wrote in and they used his pieces and it seems without accreditation they made him the Reading correspondent!!!Fact Edited January 20, 2019 by iris123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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