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[f-s-p]

Teemu Lahti is the new U21 Finnish Champion!

 

He beat his brother and Kalle Katajisto in the final after qualifying to it from his semifinal.

 

1st Teemu Lahti

2nd Kalle Katajisto after passing Timo Lahti on the exit of bend four on the last lap

3rd Timo Lahti

4th Evgeni Poptsov fell in the final and was excluded

5th Appe Mustonen

6th Niko Siltaniemi

 

Timo Lahti KMMK 33333 15

Kalle Katajisto VRT 3333R 12

Teemu Lahti KMMK 23223 12

Appe Mustonen VRT 22233 12

Fedor Poptsov Venäjä 02333 11

Niko Siltaniemi HjMK 13322 11

 

Joni Kitala SsMK 32112 9

Markku Autio KUMaMo 31122 9

Aleksander Edberg Ruotsi 21221 8

Aarni Heikkilä FMS 12012 6

Jere Mattila KauhjMK 01211 5

Jukka Nieminen SsMK 11101 4

Ari Tuomisto FMS 00111 3

Olli Heikkilä KauhjMK 20000 2

Jonas Messing Ruotsi DNS

Jens Oskarsson Ruotsi DNS

 

Erä erältä:

1. Kitala, Edberg, Heikkilä, Mattila 66,75

2. Katajisto, Lahti, Nieminen, Tuomisto 64,69

3. T.Lahti, Mustonen, Siltaniemi, Poptsov 64,95

4. Autio, O.Heikkilä 67,91

5. Siltaniemi, Kitala, Autio, Tuomisto 65,90

6. Katajisto, Poptsov, Mattila 64,12

7. Lahti, Mustonen, Edberg, O.Heikkilä 66,19

8. T.Lahti, Heikkilä, Nieminen 66,03

9. Katajisto, Mustonen, Kitala 64,41

10. T.Lahti, Mattila, Tuomisto, O.Heikkilä 67,15

11. Siltaniemi, Edberg, Nieminen 66,22

12. Poptsov, Lahti, Autio, Heikkilä 65,03

13. T.Lahti, Lahti, Kitala 65,60

14. Mustonen, Autio, Mattila, Nieminen 66,18

15. Poptsov, Edberg, Tuomisto 64,66

16. Katajisto, Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, O.Heikkilä 64,97

17. Poptsov, Kitala, Nieminen, O.Heikkilä 65,50

18. Lahti, Siltaniemi, Mattila 66,09

19. T.Lahti, Autio, Edberg, Katajisto R 64,40

20. Mustonen, Heikkilä, Tuomisto 65,25

Semifinaali: Poptsov, Lahti, Mustonen, Siltaniemi 64,39

Finaali: Lahti, Katajisto, T.Lahti, Poptsov d 65,97

Edited July 12, 2008 by f-s-p

[f-s-p]

Extraliiga today from Lahti.

 

Haukat-Royals 30

Tomi Reima 33132 12

Juha Mäkelä 3123 9

Joni Kitala 21d1 4

Aarni Heikkilä 2111 5

 

Keittiöpiste 33

Teemu Lahti 12321 9

Toni Stenberg 00T 0

Alexey Poptsov 3212 8

Timo Lahti 3322321 16

 

Kotkat 32

Kaj Laukkanen 23323 13

Rene Lehtinen 23333 14

Petteri Koivunen 00 0

Niko Siltaniemi F12110

 

Jokerit 13

Kalle Katajisto 02F3F2 7

Jani Eerikäinen 100 1

Markku Autio 12010 4

Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 1000 1

 

Heat by heat:

1. Reima, Laukkanen, Lahti, Katajisto 62,62

2. Mäkelä, Lehtinen, Eerikäinen, Stenberg 66,32

3. Poptsov, Kitala, Autio, Koivunen 67,90

4. T.Lahti, Heikkilä, Korkeamäki, Siltaniemi F 66,12

5. Laukkanen, Autio, Heikkilä, Stenberg 65,31

6. T.Lahti, Katajisto, Mäkelä, Koivunen 65,75

7. Reima, Poptsov, Siltaniemi, Eerikäinen 66,03

8. Lehtinen, Lahti, Kitala, Korkeamäki 66,90

9. Lehtinen, T.Lahti, Reima, Autio 66,40

10. Lahti, Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, Katajisto^ F 67,44

11. Laukkanen, Mäkelä, Poptsov, Korkeamäki 67,94

12. Katajisto, T.Lahti, Siltaniemi, Kitala d 66,91

13. T.Lahti, Laukkanen, Kitala, Eerikäinen 65,10

14. Lehtinen, Poptsov, Heikkilä, Katajisto 66,41

15. Reima, Lahti, Siltaniemi, Korkeamäki 65,71

16. Mäkelä, Lahti, Autio, Siltaniemi 67,46

17. Lehtinen, Katajisto, T.Lahti, Heikkilä 66,50

18. Laukkanen, Reima, Lahti, Autio 65,90

 

Standings after 3/12

 

Team - Meetings - Points - Ridden points

Keittiöpiste - 3 - 12 - 81

Kotkat - 2 - 9 - 73

Haukat- Royals - 2 - 7 - 61

Paholaiset - 2 - 7 - 57

Jokerit - 3 - 7 - 56

 

Two rounds scheduled for next weekend.

Edited July 14, 2008 by f-s-p

[f-s-p]

Kaupunki Cup from Lahti yesterday. I havent got a table yet. Maybe this evening...

 

Lahti 14

Jukka Nieminen 02121d 6

Markku Weckman R10 1

Joni Kitala 232 7

 

Haapajärvi 24

Niko Siltaniemi 331333 16

Petteri Koivunen 120122 8

 

Forssa II 11

Tommi Ahlgren 01221R 6

Ari Tuomisto 100301 5

 

Pori 27

Jouni Viljanen 2111 5

Appe Mustonen 33333 15

Kalle Katajisto 223 7

 

Forssa I 20

Aarni Heikkilä 01233 9

Timo Lahti 312R 6

Toni Stenberg 122 5

 

Kauhajoki 10

Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 21312 9

Olli Heikkilä 0000 0

Jere Mattila 010 1

 

Neva 18

Fedor Poptsov d30T3F 6

Alexey Poptsov 32322F 12

 

Erä erältä:

1. Siltaniemi, Kitala, Koivunen, Nieminen 66,93

2. Mustonen, Viljanen, Tuomisto, Ahlgren 66,87

3. Lahti, Korkeamäki, Stenberg, O.Heikkilä 67,94

4. Poptsov, Nieminen, Weckman R, F.Poptsov d 72,94

5. Siltaniemi, Koivunen, Ahlgren, Tuomisto 68,53

6. Mustonen, Katajisto, Lahti, Heikkilä 68,50

7. F.Poptsov, Poptsov, Korkeamäki, Mattila 69,22

8. Kitala, Ahlgren, Nieminen, Tuomisto 71,09

9. Mustonen, Katajisto, Siltaniemi, Koivunen 68,00

10. Poptsov, Lahti, Heikkilä, F.Poptsov 68,12

11. Korkeamäki, Nieminen, Weckman, O.Heikkilä 71,40

12. Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, Koivunen, Lahti R 67,91

13. Tuomisto, Ahlgren, Mattila, O.Heikkilä 77,47

14. Katajisto, Poptsov, Viljanen, F.Poptsov T 72,09

15. Heikkilä, Stenberg, Nieminen, Weckman 71,78

16. Siltaniemi, Koivunen, Korkeamäki, O.Heikkilä 67,63

17. F.Poptsov, Poptsov, Ahlgren, Tuomisto 67,09

18. Mustonen, Kitala, Viljanen, Nieminen d 70,00

19. Siltaniemi, Koivunen, F.Poptsov F, Poptsov F 69,84

20. Heikkilä, Stenberg, Tuomisto, Ahlgren R 70,59

21. Mustonen, Korkeamäki, Viljanen, Mattila 70,44

Edited July 14, 2008 by f-s-p

[f-s-p]

Extraliiga averages after three rounds.

 

Rider.............Team...M...H...P...JP...1st...2nd...3rd...4th...Other...Avg

Juha Hautamäki......Kotkat...1...4...12...0...4...0...0...0...0...12,00

Rene Lehtinen.........Kotkat...2...9...26...0...8...1...0...0...0...11,56

Kaj Laukkanen........Kotkat...1...5...13...0...3...2...0...0...0...10,40

Tomi Reima...............Haukat...1...5...12...0...3...1...1...0...0...9,60

Viktor Bergström........Haukat...1...5...12...0...3...1...1...0...0...9,60

Juha Mäkelä...............Haukat...2...9...20...0...5...2...1...1...0...8,89

Benny Johansson.......Kotkat...1...5...11...0...2...2...1...0...0...8,80

Timo Lahti................Keittiöpiste...3...21...44...0...8...9...2...2...0...8,38

Appe Mustonen..........Paholaiset...2...12...24...0...3...6...3...0...0...8,00

Marko Suojanen........Paholaiset...2...10...18...1...4...1...4...0...1...7,20

Alexander Edberg.......Paholaiset...1...4...6...0...0...2...2...0...0...6,00

Teemu Lahti.............Keittiöpiste...3...16...24...0...3...5...5...2...1...6,00

Kalle Katajisto.............Jokerit...3...18...26...3...3...7...2...3...4...5,78

Markku Autio...............Jokerit...3...14...18...0...1...5...5...3...0...5,14

Aleksey Poptsov..........Keittiöpiste...2...7...9...0...1...2...2...2...0...5,14

Aarni Heikkilä.............Haukat...2...10...12...0...1...1...7...1...0...4,80

Niko Siltaniemi............Kotkat...2...11...11...0...1...2...4...3...1...4,00

Petri Koskela...............Paholaiset...2...6...6...0...1...0...3...1...1...4,00

Jani Eerikäinen............Jokerit...3...12...10...0...0...4...2...5...1...3,33

Niklas Larsson.............Keittiöpiste...1...4...3...0...0...1...1...2...0...3,00

Joni Kitala...................Haukat...2...8...5...0...0...1...3...1...3...2,50

Sami Lahti................Keittiöpiste...1...3...1...0...0...0...1...1...1...1,33

Jan-Erik Korkeamäki....Jokerit...3...10...2...0...0...0...2...7...1...0,80

Petteri Koivunen............Kotkat...1...2...0...0...0...0...0...2...0...0,00

Toni Stenberg..............Keittiöpiste...2...5...0...0...0...0...0...4...1...0,00

Edited July 15, 2008 by f-s-p

[Dekker]

19. T.Lahti, Autio, Edberg, Katajisto R 64,40

 

Well done to Kalle, btw fsp what happened to Kalle in heat 19 and which Lahti won the heat?

 

Mustonen had a slow start to meeting...

 

[Subedei]

Extraliiga today from Lahti.

 

Haukat-Royals 30

Tomi Reima 33132 12

 

Someone remind me why Workington are getting a facility to cover the missing Reima?

 

[carlisle_comet]

Tomi's daughter is ill and needs healthcare. He sorted out this healthcare when he first came over to ride for the comets but the arrangment fell through so he needs to stay at home. Family comes first.

[f-s-p]

Well done to Kalle, btw fsp what happened to Kalle in heat 19 and which Lahti won the heat?

 

Mustonen had a slow start to meeting...

 

His rear chain came off on the third lap. He was way behind Lahti when it happened. Timo Lahti was on FIRE = )!

 

Regarding Reima: It is a bit different to drive 70 km to Lahti than to fly to UK and then drive 700 km to ride for Workington when you take into account his situation with the daughter.

[Subedei]

Tomi's daughter is ill and needs healthcare. He sorted out this healthcare when he first came over to ride for the comets but the arrangment fell through so he needs to stay at home. Family comes first.

 

Which is all very well, but doesn't explain why Workington are getting a facility.

 

[carlisle_comet]

I'm unsure of the rule regarding Tomi, but i belive the r/r runs out after comets match on saturday.

[f-s-p]

Timo Lahti, who has been the absolute sensation in Finnish speedway this season turns 16 today! Dont we have it good here at the moment. And before anyone asks, I hope he stays out of UK racing for atleast the next five years.

 

In -06 we had Mäkinen, last year we had Katajisto and this year Lahti and Siltaniemi have really upped their game with Lahti starting to really challenge others at any track. Only negative thing is that I cant point a finger to the next one inline who's gonna come through. Hopefully I'll find one by going and watching a few 80 cc meetings later on this season...

[iris123]

I did hear at the weekend Mr Teromaa was quite pessimistic about speedway in Finland.Mayb that was to do with the peformance of the Finnish youngsters in Denmark.But just like all the old guys,ask them about their old track.In his case Tampere and ....."Now that was a speedway track" Sadly on the subject of defunct tracks,both Teromaa and Mick Poole said how much they used to like riding at Wimbledon

Edited July 16, 2008 by iris123

[f-s-p]

I did hear at the weekend Mr Teromaa was quite pessimistic about speedway in Finland.Mayb that was to do with the peformance of the Finnish youngsters in Denmark.But just like all the old guys,ask them about their old track.In his case Tampere and ....."Now that was a speedway track" Sadly on the subject of defunct tracks,both Teromaa and Mick Poole said how much they used to like riding at Wimbledon

Ilkka who?

 

Only time I've seen Ilkka Teromaa at a Finnish speedway track in the past four years is wearing a federation collar shirt and acting as the Jury president in an international meeting. Thats twice and I've been to about 60-75 % of the meetings. I'd say he doesn't have a clue about whats going on. It's true that the clubs are struggling, but we currently have a handfull of juniors that have come trough 80 cc and are progressing really well. Also micro speedway is making it's way to Finland. There will be more news about that during the winter. We dont have regular F1 racing in Finland either, but we do have two of the worlds top riders, dont we!

 

One person that I did see last weekend and had a chat with was non-other than the legendary Kai Niemi himself! To put a short story even shorter he basically told me to send his best to all. Another source has led me to believe that he still is interested in the sport and has indicated that he might be interested to becoming involved again.

[iris123]

I thought you might say that.Which is why i mentioned him.

 

Great to hear Kai is still around.You can ask him about Wimbledon next time you see him.He is fondly remembered in London.Great to have some of these guys around to help the youngsters through.Just watching Erik Gundersen at the weekend and how much he helps the Danish guys is great.Sad though to see riders like Hans Nielsen and Tommy Knudsen in Skaerbaek and they have pretty well no interest in speedway these days

[f-s-p]

I thought you might say that.Which is why i mentioned him.

 

Great to hear Kai is still around.You can ask him about Wimbledon next time you see him.He is fondly remembered in London.Great to have some of these guys around to help the youngsters through.Just watching Erik Gundersen at the weekend and how much he helps the Danish guys is great.Sad though to see riders like Hans Nielsen and Tommy Knudsen in Skaerbaek and they have pretty well no interest in speedway these days

Am I getting predictable? Bitter perhaps?

 

Tired, yes... Another week of vacation coming up...

[f-s-p]

I've just received info, that the Extraliiga 1/10 scheduled to Seinäjoki for sunday will be ridden at Kauhajoki. That means only one thing, the track repairs arent finished.

[f-s-p]

Extraliga today from Pori. Only saw the first eight heat myself before heading to the Pori Jazz festival. Teemu Lahti totally humiliated Kaj Laukkanen in heat one.

 

Paholaiset 27+3

Cesary Owizyc 30101 5

Petri Koskela 2001 3

Marko Suojanen 236^322 18

Tomi Kauppi 1T01

 

Haukat-Royals 18

Tomi Reima 22^2220 10

Juha Mäkelä d101 2

Joni Kitala 01212 6

Aarni Heikkilä 000 0

 

Keittiöpiste 27+2

Teemu Lahti 124^131 12

Toni Stenberg 1 1

Aleksey Poptsov 1203 6

Timo Lahti 23d120R 8

 

Kotkat 42

Kaj Laukkanen 03233 11

Joni Keskinen 32113 10

Juha Hautamäki 3333 12

Niko Siltaniemi 3132 9

 

Erä erältä:

1. Owizyc, Reima, Lahti, Laukkanen 69,39

2. Keskinen, Koskela, Stenberg, Mäkelä d 69,63

3. Hautamäki, Suojanen, Poptsov, Kitala 67, 56

4. Siltaniemi, T.Lahti, Kauppi, Heikkilä 68,48

5. Hautamäki, Lahti, Mäkelä, Kauppi 67,95

6. Laukkanen, Poptsov, Reima^, Koskela 66,66

7. Poptsov, Keskinen, Kitala, Owizyc 67,09

8. Suojanen, Reima, Siltaniemi, T.Lahti 68,41

9. Hautamäki, Lahti^,Owizyc, Heikkilä 67,68

10. Suojanen^, Reima, Keskinen, Poptsov 67,30

11. Siltaniemi, Kitala, Lahti, Koskela 67,84

12. Suojanen, Laukkanen, T.Lahti, Mäkelä 66,06

13. Lahti, Suojanen, Keskinen, Heikkilä 64,77

14. Laukkanen, T.Lahti, Kitala, Kauppi 63,23

15. Poptsov, Siltaniemi, Mäkelä, Owizyc 66,27

16. Hautamäki, Reima, Koskela, T.Lahti 64,27

17. Keskinen, Kitala, Owizyc, T.Lahti R 67,86

18. Laukkanen, Suojanen, Lahti, Reima 65,36

Uusinta: Suojanen, T.Lahti

Katsojia 145

 

Kauhajoki on sunday.

[f-s-p]

Extraliiga from Kauhajoki. This now concludes the first half of the season and new averages will come to place for the second part of the season. I think the only team it will really affect is Keittiöpiste, since Timo Lahti will definately move in to the team and Toni Stenberg to reserve. Laukkanen was good today, alltough this is the kind of opposition he should wipe the floor with even without selling any of his apartments. Hautamäki was good too, and most likely will win the Individual final next saturday.

 

Kotkat 39

Juha Hautamäki 33333 15

Kaj Laukkanen 33333 15

Joni Keskinen 221R 5

Niko Siltaniemi 310R 4

 

Jokerit 25

Kalle Katajisto 2334^22 16

Jani Eerikäinen 0000 0

Markku Autio 31121 8

Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 100 1

 

Paholaiset 18

Petri Koskela 03010 4

Cesary Owizyc 1111 4

Marko Suojanen 0224^20 10

Jukka Nieminen F00 0

 

Haukat-Royals 32

Tomi Reima 114^332 14

Juha Mäkelä 22T31 8

Joni Kitala 1221 6

Aarni Heikkilä 2011 4

 

Erä erältä:

1. Hautamäki, Katajisto, Reima, Koskela 63,13

2. Laukkanen, Mäkelä, Owizyc, Eerikäinen 63,51

3. Autio, Keskinen, Kitala, Suojanen 62,13

4. Siltaniemi, Heikkilä, Korkeamäki, Nieminen F 63,16

5. Koskela, Kitala, Siltaniemi, Eerikäinen 64,96

6. Laukkanen, Suojanen, Reima, Korkeamäki 61,57

7. Hautamäki, Mäkelä, Autio, Nieminen 61,31

8. Katajisto, Keskinen, Owizyc, Heikkilä 62,11

9. Hautamäki, Kitala, Owizyc, Korkeamäki 62,91

10. Katajisto, Suojanen, Heikkilä, S.iltaniemi 62,69

11. Laukkanen, Reima^, Autio, Koskela 60,91

12. Reima, Suojanen^, Keskinen, Eerikäinen 62,31

13. Mäkelä, Katajisto^, Koskela, Keskinen R 62,77

14. Reima, Autio, Owizyc, Siltaniemi R 61,72

15. Hautamäki, Suojanen, Heikkilä, Eerikäinen 61,67

16. Laukkanen, Katajisto, Kitala, Nieminen 61,57

17. Laukkanen, Reima, Koskela, Autio

18. Hautamäki, Katajisto, Mäkelä, Suojanen 62,28

Katsojia 135

 

Mid season table:

 

Seura.....O...P...+

Kotkat........4...19...154

Keittiöpiste..4...15...108

Haukat.......4...13...111

Paholaiset...4...13...102

Jokerit........4...10...81

 

Anyone who's intrested in helping out a bit and will be online next saturday around 5-6 pm (UK time) could contact me by PM. I cant access the forum from the final at Haapajärvi, but I could send the results to someone who could simply copypaste them from email to the forum.

 

EDIT: Un-official word just came that Appe Mustonen has won the Nordic longtrack final in Denmark/Germany.

Edited July 21, 2008 by f-s-p

[f-s-p]

Averages for the second part of the season according to me.

EDIT: Approved myself just a tad early...

 

Juha Hautamäki...Kotkat...3...13...39...0...13...0...0...0...0...12,00

Rene Lehtinen...Kotkat...2...9...26...0...8...1...0...0...0...11,56

Kaj Laukkanen...Kotkat...3...15...39...0...11...3...0...1...0...10,40

Benny Johansson...Kotkat...1...5...11...0...2...2...1...0...0...8,80

Joni Keskinen...Kotkat...2...9...15...0...2...3...3...2...1...6,67

Niko Siltaniemi...Kotkat...4...19...24...0...4...3...6...4...2...5,05

Petteri Koivunen...Kotkat...1...2...0...0...0...0...0...2...0...0,00

 

Timo Lahti...Keittiöpiste...4...28...52...0...9...11...3...3...2...7,43

Teemu Lahti...Keittiöpiste...4...22...36...2...4...7...8...2...1...6,55

Aleksey Poptsov...Keittiöpiste...3...11...15...0...2...3...3...3...0...5,45

Niklas Larsson...Keittiöpiste...1...4...3...0...0...1...1...2...0...3,00

Sami Lahti...Keittiöpiste...1...3...1...0...0...0...1...1...1...1,33

Toni Stenberg...Keittiöpiste...3...6...1...0...0...0...1...4...1...0,67

 

Viktor Bergström...Haukat...1...5...12...0...3...1...1...0...0...9,60

Tomi Reima...Haukat...3...17...36...3...5...8...3...1...0...8,47

Juha Mäkelä...Haukat...4...18...30...0...6...4...4...2...2...6,67

Joni Kitala...Haukat...4...17...17...0...0...5...7...1...4...4,00

Aarni Heikkilä...Haukat...4...17...16...0...1...2...9...5...0...3,76

 

Marko Suojanen...Paholaiset...4...22...46...6...7...8...4...2...1...8,36

Appe Mustonen...Paholaiset...2...12...24...0...3...6...3...0...0...8,00

Alexander Edberg...Paholaiset...1...4...6...0...0...2...2...0...0...6,00

Cezary Owizyc...Paholaiset...2...9...9...0...1...0...6...2...0...4,00

Petri Koskela...Paholaiset...4...15...13...0...2...1...5...6...1...3,47

Tomi Kauppi...Paholaiset...1...3...1...0...0...0...1...1...1...1,33

Jukka Nieminen...Paholaiset...1...3...0...0...0...0...0...0...1...0,00

 

Kalle Katajisto...Jokerit...4...24...42...5...5...11...2...3...4...7,00

Markku Autio...Jokerit...4...19...26...0...2...6...8...3...0...5,47

Jani Eerikäinen...Jokerit...4...16...10...0...0...4...2...9...1...2,50

Jan-Erik Korkeamäki...Jokerit...4...13...3...0...0...0...3...9...1...0,92

 

Thats as in: meetings, heats, points, points as joker, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, other (M/T/F/R's) and average without points as joker.

Edited July 21, 2008 by f-s-p

[f-s-p]

A rough re-make of the results from the Nordic Longtrack Final.

 

1. Joel Nystrøm - 15 point

2. Marius Røkeberg - 14

3. Villy Tjessem - 13

4. Appe Mustonen - 13

5. Torben Præstgaard - 11

6. Jan Michael Berg - 9

7. Rene Lehtinen - 7

8. Jan-Olof Wahlskog - 7

9. Steen Larsen - 6

10. Hasse Prytz - 4

11. Tommi Ahlgren - 0

12. Kenneth Borgenhaug - 0

13. Henrik Grynnerup - 0

 

Erä erältä:

1. Nystrøm, Mustonen, Præstgaard, Larsen, Grynnerup

2. Tjessem, Wahlskog, Berg, Prytz, Borgenhaug d, Ahlgren F

3. Røkeberg, Præstgaard, Lehtinen R

4. Nystrøm, Mustonen, Lehtinen

5. Røkeberg, Tjessem, Wahlskog, Larsen, Prytz

6. Mustonen, Præstgaard, Berg

7. Lehtinen, Tjessem, Wahlskog

8. Nystrøm, Røkeberg, Berg, Larsen, Prytz

Semi 1: Lehtinen, Nystrøm, Tjessem, Præstgaard, Larsen R

Semi 2: Røkeberg, Mustonen, Berg

Finaali: Mustonen, Tjessem, Nystrøm, Røkeberg, Berg, Lehtinen (d)