pedropete Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 1 It was a winner take all final. Nicki got the cheque. As I said before what he does with it after is his business. 2 Who wouldn't be keen to bank a £60k cheque? 3 Spinning a yarn? Matt was stating fact before the event. He has no control over the riders decision to split the pot. 4 Legal team? Hindsight is a marvellous thing (see my previous post). I am deeply disappointed that the pot splitting has overshadowed what was a great start to the season and should have been marvellous publicity for British Speedway in general. I still think it marvellous publicity. Riders who risk life and limb on the track being so together off it. I think it brilliant and took nothing off the meeting. As it turned out £15k at stake to qualify for the final. It makes the 20 races better rather than just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I still think it marvellous publicity. Riders who risk life and limb on the track being so together off it. I think it brilliant and took nothing off the meeting. As it turned out £15k at stake to qualify for the final. It makes the 20 races better rather than just one. So are you suggesting that all the riders agreed to split the proceeds, whoever got to the final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postie Pirate Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Please don't feel sorry for me. I was one of the fans that attended the meeting and do I feel cheated.......NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Schumi Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) You dont need to highlight points for me Schumi, im bright enough to read for myself - as i assume you are. Here you go then, I'll make it quite simple for you, as you've now changed from the original point to arguing about opinions and whether or not Nicki wanted to ride here. I asked Nicki the very same question during the close season, and his answer was: I would love to ride in Britain next year, but at the moment it does not look like it. Eastbourne can not fit me into the team with the new point limit. And as for loyalty, have a look at this: http://www.speedwayworld.tv/en/polishleague/a8214 Can we put this to bed now? That must be categoric enough for you, unless you want me to put a date on when I asked the question (which I can do.) Edited March 11, 2008 by Schumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Please don't feel sorry for me. I was one of the fans that attended the meeting and do I feel cheated.......NO As I have already mentioned, I wasn't there, I did think about it, but a bit of a run from Ipswich. But like you, if I had gone, I don't think I would have felt cheated either. Seeing the Youtube final, it did seem like a race and for £30.00, not too bad value. Personally, I would have preferred the event to be more in the summer, but then you can't guarantee the weather, even then. Also, with GP commitments, it would have been difficult to have the riders available. However, the pinnacle of this event was the £60k single prize, going to the top rider. £60k is a lot of money to a number of people, including me and it gets the imagination going 'what I would do with 60 grand!', but the bubble has been burst for a lot of fans, for now the prize is £15k, 'what I would do with 15 grand, yes something, but nowhere near as much as 60'. The dream has been spoilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BjarneRubble Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 It looks as though this one is going to run and run.... Get over it folks. What has been done has been done. There is nothing that anyone can do about it, even if they wanted to. Let's just be thankful that the event survived the weather, and the majority of people that attended were very happy with the racing and the result. I thought it was a great way to open the season and look forward to other clubs organising similar events in years to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 It looks as though this one is going to run and run.... Get over it folks. What has been done has been done. There is nothing that anyone can do about it, even if they wanted to. Let's just be thankful that the event survived the weather, and the majority of people that attended were very happy with the racing and the result. I thought it was a great way to open the season and look forward to other clubs organising similar events in years to come At last someone with a bit of common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 It looks as though this one is going to run and run.... Get over it folks. What has been done has been done. There is nothing that anyone can do about it, even if they wanted to. Let's just be thankful that the event survived the weather, and the majority of people that attended were very happy with the racing and the result. I thought it was a great way to open the season and look forward to other clubs organising similar events in years to come i'll second that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogstar Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Seems that some of the posters on here think they know everything that goes on in speedway and riders' lives. Why people feel the need to know everything about a rider and his personal life or decisions is actually quite scary and rather sad. Some of you talk to riders and maybe help them out, but they are not answerable to you. In fact many of the riders just tolerate you and tell you what you want to hear because it is in their interest. They are not going to be rude to you if you drive them to airports or accommodate them are they? Yes you are entitled to debate on this forum, but most of what is discussed is laughable and what you don't realise is that most of the people who know what's really going on in the sport are laughing at the serial spouters of crap on this forum. At least this is an outlet for some people and their obsessions..... Hysterical!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 At last someone with a bit of common sense. no no no ,no sence at all,i state again that i was so excited about this event before xmas when we decided to go,this will run and run until i get a ex from mr ford,im livid, how can mr ford miss this anyway,it must of been going on in the pits for quite a while before the final,this does speedway no good at all,where will it stop,it could get out of hand with fans not knowing what race was won on merit and what isnt,complete shambles,get mr ford on here i want a word.there is no ifs and buts about this it should never have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) no no no ,no sence at all,i state again that i was so excited about this event before xmas when we decided to go,this will run and run until i get a ex from mr ford,im livid, how can mr ford miss this anyway,it must of been going on in the pits for quite a while before the final,this does speedway no good at all,where will it stop,it could get out of hand with fans not knowing what race was won on merit and what isnt,complete shambles,get mr ford on here i want a word.there is no ifs and buts about this it should never have happened. Calm down will you. You'll burst a blood vessel going on like that.If riders wish to come to a gentleman's agreement that's their choice. Edited March 11, 2008 by colincooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concrete Cowboy Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Imagine the tension for the final, when the winning rider is earning £1000 for every second he is on the track. Poetry Steve, poetry. I bet the four of them were s**tting themselves - NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy den boy Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Calm down will you. You'll burst a blood vessel going on like that.If riders wish to come to a gentleman's agreement that's their choice. D ont tell me to calm down,i love speedway 110% but as bookmakers now have the faith in speedway to offer odds after so many years of not covering it,this is serious to the image of speedway,and also we were taken for mugs when we got our tickets to see the 60,000 race that never was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 (edited) Hey listen we all do.Nicki won that money fair & square, what he decides, or any of the other 3 for that matter, to do with it is his & their business. He could have decided to make a charity donation, we wouldn't be moaning then would we.It was an agreed gesture by the sounds of it, that's all i'm saying. I do agree though that a promoter is going to think long & hard before running big money meetings like this again. ATB CC. Edited March 11, 2008 by colincooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedropete Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 no no no ,no sence at all,i state again that i was so excited about this event before xmas when we decided to go,this will run and run until i get a ex from mr ford,im livid, how can mr ford miss this anyway,it must of been going on in the pits for quite a while before the final,this does speedway no good at all,where will it stop,it could get out of hand with fans not knowing what race was won on merit and what isnt,complete shambles,get mr ford on here i want a word.there is no ifs and buts about this it should never have happened. But the race was and always will be won on merit. Nickis sponsors would have insisted he won the race however much it was for. And his personnal pride, he was elated after the race and on the rostrum. I was there and do NOT feel cheated at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Eh? There was no yarn being spun, the pot for the winner was £60k and Matt had no control over what the riders involved agreed between themselves. From what I can see, there was no deception on the part of the promoters when it came to the prize, so they are blameless. Anyway, I think what those four did was actually very sporting and generous and shouldn't really be called cheating the paying public, can you just imagine the comments if Nicki hadn't split? I can just see they would have been along the lines of " Bah that Nicki, taking 60k out of British speedway when he is not even bothering to ride here this year...money money money" (I hasten to add, I am in the Schumi camp on the reasons why Nicki is not riding here this season). As a first try (in British racing), there will always be teething problems, or things you could not foresee as Pirate Nick says, hindsight is a wonderful thing, maybe in future they will change the contract to encompass this situation to prevent it happening again. Even if I had been able to attend, I would not have felt cheated, I would have enjoyed the racing and been happy to think that all the riders in the final benefitted...but then I am that type of person. Unbeleiveable. You look for the good in everyone Sue, which is commendable, but the actions of the riders is still an absolute disgrace and the mugs who have defended them on here is laughable. Its no wonder this sport is laughed at from outsiders. Any major sport and this gets an investigation by the governing body. Its a form of race fixing and with betting firms giving odds for this meeting then its very serious. It was a £60k winner takes all. Billed as that for months. Nicki can do whatever he wants with his money, but what he can't do is hand over three quarters of it BEFORE the final race to his competitors! Jesus. It defeated the whole point of the meeting and the final itself. The four finalists treated the fans who turned up like mugs and put greed before integrity, but thats no surprise in this day and age. Did the final four give a t*ss who won the final after they conjured up the equal splitting of the £60k? I'll leave it open to peoples interpretation..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandie Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 They say that "the best things in life come in small packages". so does arsnic!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concrete Cowboy Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I'm sure MF & SS will put some sort of spin on this like it was already agreed months ago that this would be the case Steve seems to be oblivious to the revelation as he has failed to comment at all, and is indeed particularly conspicuous by his absence. Can you imagine if this had occurred at Coventry ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 how can mr ford miss this anyway,it must of been going on in the pits for quite a while before the final, well he was in the stand by the tapes for the last few races and just before the final he was escorting harry redknapp down to the centre green, so he wasn't anywhere near the pits!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
190557 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 £60,000 FOR THE WINNER THATS REDICULOUS. How about having a 2nd half meeting for some of the up and coming British riders with a £10,000 winners cheque as well, as I'm sure they could do with the money more than the big 5 foreign riders and cut the winnings to £50,000 in the main event. Looks like Mr Ford decided that Eastie was right, well at least the first part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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