Ian Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 It would be neglectful not to mention how accomplished a rider Bob Paulson was. I remember him appearing in the very strong Sheffield sides of the mid-sixties, along with other newcomers like Arnold Haley. Sheffield always seemed to be able to come up good quality riders who nobody had heard of before. Bob, in fact, became the Tigers skipper. I hadn't heard until this thread that he was dead. Tragically, speedway certainly seems to throw up more than its fair share of suicides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) On the site www.sheffield-tigers.co.uk there is this biog on Bob Paulson:--- PAULSON, Bob - Born: Chilworth, Derbyshire 27 March 1942 Loyal club man who spent the whole of his ten year career at Sheffield. Burst onto the scene in 1965 and was in such a rich vein of form the following year he was selected for the prestigious Internationale event at Wimbledon. Although 1966 proved to be his best season, Bob remained a steady middle order scorer until his retirement in 1974 and spent many years as captain of the Tigers. Scored nearly 2000 points in official fixtures and was part of the famous cup winning team of 1974. He retired at the end of that season and was awarded a testimonial the following year. Bob sadly died in the winter of 1982. Matches Rides Points Bonus Total Average 304 1236 1574 265 1839 5.95 http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Edited October 30, 2007 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTom Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) Bob Paulson was a god servant to Shefield speedway. A good captain and always willing to give a young lad an Autograph. He was involved in the first bend fatality of Ivor Hughes at Cradly Heath. That must have been a terrible thing to live with. I believe Bob stayed at a relatives pub in downtown Sheffield in his racing days and just after. Always had a clean bike and ultra clean leathers! Funnt how you remembr things. Cradley were at Shefield on the Thusday night with the retun at Cradly on the Saturday I believe. Remember geting Ivor's autograph on the Thursday then he was killed!.... Hard to register on a young lad at the time. I have been very fortunate to have never seen a speedway fatality and I hope I never will. Edited October 30, 2007 by TigerTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanx Tom-I never ealised Bob was involved in the Ivor Hughes accident which I clearly recall-Ivor was from a little place called Berriew in mid-Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanx Tom-I never ealised Bob was involved in the Ivor Hughes accident which I clearly recall-Ivor was from a little place called Berriew in mid-Wales <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Have to admit I did not realise that Bob was involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If Bob could read this topic he would be rolling about laughing. He knew some people thought him a "puff"as they were called in those days, and found it funny to say things to make them believe it. Obviously did a good job. Was in the pits that night at Cradley.....Ivor fell going into the 1st bend, Bob layed his bike down but his footrest hit Ivor in the back of the head. Tragic but pure accident.....It did affect Bob, whilst he did carry on riding... personally think he lost a lot that night. There were also more personal problems in later years. Gay........NEVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ore Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 If Bob could read this topic he would be rolling about laughing. He knew some people thought him a "puff"as they were called in those days, and found it funny to say things to make them believe it. Obviously did a good job. Was in the pits that night at Cradley.....Ivor fell going into the 1st bend, Bob layed his bike down but his footrest hit Ivor in the back of the head. Tragic but pure accident.....It did affect Bob, whilst he did carry on riding... personally think he lost a lot that night. There were also more personal problems in later years. Gay........NEVER. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OK so there was more stigma in those days but isn't it 2007 now and aren't we above such "witch hunts". I have to agree with Captain, not that it matters, that Bob was definitely not gay. He had the huge misfortune however to have natural good looks and jealousy may therefore have caused the rumours to go round. As I read it he was greatly affected by the crash with Ivor Hughes, right until his own passing, and the fact that he continued to race after this says more about him than unnecessary rumour ever will. This was, after all, a topic about gay riders and not the great Bob Paulson. As a schoolboy in Sheffield we had a teacher called Mr Paulson, who played hockey at a very high standard. He was known to the pupils as "Bob" though in reverence to the great Sheffield icon of the time and his own sporting prowess certainly came secondary to Bob's hero status. This calling didn't make him a top class speedway rider though. Neither does calling someone gay make them. Maybe a topic about the Best Captains of All Time would have been a better one for Bob's career to be discussed in depth and not one where unnecessary incorrect assumptions may and have been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 (edited) OK so there was more stigma in those days but isn't it 2007 now and aren't we above such "witch hunts". I have to agree with Captain, not that it matters, that Bob was definitely not gay. He had the huge misfortune however to have natural good looks and jealousy may therefore have caused the rumours to go round. As I read it he was greatly affected by the crash with Ivor Hughes, right until his own passing, and the fact that he continued to race after this says more about him than unnecessary rumour ever will. This was, after all, a topic about gay riders and not the great Bob Paulson. As a schoolboy in Sheffield we had a teacher called Mr Paulson, who played hockey at a very high standard. He was known to the pupils as "Bob" though in reverence to the great Sheffield icon of the time and his own sporting prowess certainly came secondary to Bob's hero status. This calling didn't make him a top class speedway rider though. Neither does calling someone gay make them. Maybe a topic about the Best Captains of All Time would have been a better one for Bob's career to be discussed in depth and not one where unnecessary incorrect assumptions may and have been made. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I second all that you say. There is no factual evidence presented in the allegations against Bob Paulson. Your remarks are, as always, very much to the heart of the subject. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Edited October 31, 2007 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Reading some of the defensive replies, you'd swear he had killed someone, not he may have been gay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ore Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I second all that you say. There is no factual evidence presented in the allegations against Bob Paulson. Your remarks are, as always, very much to the heart of the subject. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks speedyguy. Bob was always a great team player. His team riding in a league fixture at Wolves where Tigers had a surprise victory was out of the top drawer and the reason for the win. Having gone through the trauma of seeing his good friend killed in a crash which he too was involved in it is hardly surprising he had psychological problems after that. The fact that he never let it affect his public persona or riding abilty shows a strength of charachter to be admired rather than to have his sexuality questionned. True or, as I maintain, untrue it is not very constuctive that he is subject to these rumours which are not relevent to his undoubted abilty. Sadly it was before my time but I believe before his crash he was seen as definite World Final material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Rocket Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I know this thread reads 'were there any' (gay riders), but another question could be....are there any? Frankly, I don't care either way, however, I imagine there must be, based on law of averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Like you say,does it really matter?Law of averages probably says there should be at least a few Chinese as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Can't we have a better topic than this? WHO CARES!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I agree, I think that this thread has worn itself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Like you say,does it really matter?Law of averages probably says there should be at least a few Chinese as well <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There possibly are now that speedway has reached Malaysia. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusthepom Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 uuuuuuuuummmmmmmm yum cha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) Well couldnt care less about all the people on here who think they know the truth about bob, and certainly couldnt be botherd about whether he was gay or not. what i remember most about him was his riding for sheffield, some great rides come to mind, beating ivan mauger at sheffield arount 72 or 73 and beating eric boothroyd and eric boocock at halifax in 1968 in heat 13 with his back wheel on fence for all four laps to get sheffield a 39-39 draw. That and his captaincy of the 74 team which i believe is still the only team to have won every leg home and away in a cup competion so lets forget the was he or wasnt he gay and remember him as agreat servant of sheffield who would always chat with supporters and sign autographs. RIP Bob one of the best captains sheffield has ever had, if not the best Edited November 6, 2007 by The Third Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Well couldnt care less about all the people on here who think they know the truth about bob, and certainly couldnt be botherd about whether he was gay or not. what i remember most about him was his riding for sheffield, some great rides come to mind, beating ivan mauger at sheffield arount 72 or 73 and beating eric boothroyd and eric boocock at halifax in 1968 in heat 13 with his back wheel on fence for all four laps to get sheffield a 39-39 draw. That and his captaincy of the 74 team which i believe is still the only team to have won every leg home and away in a cup competion so lets forget the was he or wasnt he gay and remember him as agreat servant of sheffield who would always chat with supporters and sign autographs. RIP Bob one of the best captains sheffield has ever had, if not the best <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hasve to agree and I said it right from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 11/6/2007 at 3:01 PM, The Third Man said: Well couldnt care less about all the people on here who think they know the truth about bob, and certainly couldnt be botherd about whether he was gay or not. what i remember most about him was his riding for sheffield, some great rides come to mind, beating ivan mauger at sheffield arount 72 or 73 and beating eric boothroyd and eric boocock at halifax in 1968 in heat 13 with his back wheel on fence for all four laps to get sheffield a 39-39 draw. That and his captaincy of the 74 team which i believe is still the only team to have won every leg home and away in a cup competion so lets forget the was he or wasnt he gay and remember him as agreat servant of sheffield who would always chat with supporters and sign autographs. RIP Bob one of the best captains sheffield has ever had, if not the best A very able rider and captain i also still have his autograph in my vollection.I remember him beating Briggo at the Abbey in 1971 and Jim Airey scoring an 18 point maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted March 15, 2020 Report Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: A very able rider and captain i also still have his autograph in my vollection.I remember him beating Briggo at the Abbey in 1971 and Jim Airey scoring an 18 point maximum. Jim had retired when I first went but at least I got to see him at Cowley when he turned out for Australia against Poland during the Daily Mirror Tournament in 1973. A class act! Edited March 15, 2020 by steve roberts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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