Maddas69 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 They all signed to follow these rules that`s why Bomber had "to prove" himself in the run-off. Which in my view was only fair since he only scored 4 points on the night while Scotty had 8 and Holta 10. To be frank; it looked like Harris actually focused too much on getting into the semis and winning the grand prize instead of trying to get the 6-10 points he needed to be completely safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 My god there isn't half alot of bleating going on here.I'd like to bet you Bomber has forgotten the incident already so why can't anyone on here do so themselves. Speedway is a racing game in case anyone's forgotten & in some situations you need to race hard.Some of you on here have also got your veiws spot on & i agree with what has been said about Grodsky,for god's sake bring back Tony Steele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddas69 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Okay, here's an interesting one. The race-off was held prior to the final, which was, of course, the climax of the night. But if Jonsson had won his semi-final, he'd have still been in with a chance of getting into the race-off. So, in that case, the £100,000 prize race would surely have been the second last race of the night. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Absolutely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 yes, scott was perhaps bordering on the line of unacceptable but regardless, they will iron their differences out over time and anyway, Scott is british, along with chris so both will once more be getting my full support next season. Â makes me laugh how some 'so-called' British supporters appear to always turn on their own national riders when they are involved in an incident of this description. Well, how about those in this mould sod off and support some other country cause British supporters can easily do without you! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Well Im English , not British and have long since given up supporting the load of tripe dished up as a National side. Even the name is wrong. And lets face it whatever they call themselves they are no match for the magnificent Danes. Â Somebody laughingly called Nicholls a poor mans Hans Andersen. That's an insult to Hans who is a brilliant rider , a winner , not a serial complainer and excuse maker. He just laughed off the failings of the track that almost certainly cost him a place in the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Well done scotty just go's to show he was the right pick for the wildcard and for first time he never had to miss a gp in a season . Â If only he had 2 homes gp's like some the rest maybe he could make top 3 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb the Snail Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Somebody laughingly called Nicholls a poor mans Hans Andersen. That's an insult to Hans who is a brilliant rider , a winner , not a serial complainer and excuse maker. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I totally agree. Â I can't comment with any authority on last night's incident as I was engrossed in the egg-chasing, but it does seem that the consensus is that Scott was incredibly lucky that the referee was so inept. Â However Bomber does seem to have gone off the boil at this level post-Cardiff and really should set his sights higher than the infamous "6 points per meeting" if he wants to be considered as a winner rather than an also-ran. IMHO he should never have got into this position in the first place. Â Oh, and well done Rune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Somebody laughingly called Nicholls a poor mans Hans Andersen. That's an insult to Hans who is a brilliant rider , a winner , not a serial complainer and excuse maker. He just laughed off the failings of the track that almost certainly cost him a place in the final. Â <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hans Andersens roll of honour in 2007 includes?! A second place in a GP? Â Scott Nicholls has a 2nd place in a GP too, plus his team has won an EL title and is in the final of two more competitions. Â Now which one is a winner? As by my reckoning, Hans has won nothing this season. 5th or 8th in the GP series? Who really cares, neither have won it! Not even made the podium, in that respect they're both losers as I can't see Hans being happy with being 5th in the World and bragging about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Hans Andersens roll of honour in 2007 includes?! A second place in a GP? Scott Nicholls has a 2nd place in a GP too, plus his team has won an EL title and is in the final of two more competitions.  Now which one is a winner? As by my reckoning, Hans has won nothing this season. 5th or 8th in the GP series? Who really cares, neither have won it! Not even made the podium, in that respect they're both losers as I can't see Hans being happy with being 5th in the World and bragging about it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Well SCB you are wrong Hans A is Team Champion in Sweden for 2007 with Dackarna. Scott's team was knocked out in the semis. Edited October 14, 2007 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Hans Andersens roll of honour in 2007 includes?! A second place in a GP? Scott Nicholls has a 2nd place in a GP too, plus his team has won an EL title and is in the final of two more competitions.  Now which one is a winner? As by my reckoning, Hans has won nothing this season. 5th or 8th in the GP series? Who really cares, neither have won it! Not even made the podium, in that respect they're both losers as I can't see Hans being happy with being 5th in the World and bragging about it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Of course hes not happy , why would he be. But he has won three Gps and a World Cup . Not to mention National Titles. Well a League title but thats hardly soley down to him. I said not to mention them , lol ,.as the English title laughingly called British isnt worth squat. Cant think of anything Nicholls has ever won , well nowt worthwhile any way. Edited October 14, 2007 by boxer123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Hans Andersens roll of honour in 2007 includes?! A second place in a GP? Scott Nicholls has a 2nd place in a GP too, plus his team has won an EL title and is in the final of two more competitions.  Now which one is a winner? As by my reckoning, Hans has won nothing this season. 5th or 8th in the GP series? Who really cares, neither have won it! Not even made the podium, in that respect they're both losers as I can't see Hans being happy with being 5th in the World and bragging about it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  S Nicholls..56 GPs..0 wins H Andersen..42 GPs..3 wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 zzzzzzzzzzz..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) zzzzzzzzzzz..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â feel free to nod off Nicholls started it , lol Edited October 14, 2007 by boxer123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Good points f-s-p, but it's the British way of life you're trying to change At the moment 'the public' love Chris and hate Scott...and last night's race was perfect for the moaning majority to scream about.  I'm glad Scott's in, and Rune Holta as well. In the whole series they entertained me a lot more than Chris did. He had one good GP before a brilliant Cardiff and nothing since. He should be much better next year, and hopefully he learnt something in Germany.  Bomber is certain, as is AJ, of a wildcard place. So I'm happy with the result and have no problem with how it came about <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  You completely messed my chances to stir things up...  I dont really like Holta, but where did he find that speed... Everytime he got his bike straight it absolutely catapulted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I dont really like Holta, but where did he find that speed... Everytime he got his bike straight it absolutely catapulted. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Well, Holta has an advantage in that department - he's probably about the lightest guy in the GPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I make a wild assumption here and assume the rules of the GP are in written form somewhere and covers the event of a tie at the end of the GP series? Actually, several questions have arisen over this years series and decisions have been made that have caused much debate on this forum. Question: Anyone have a copy of the rules? Or are they in Ole Olsen's head? I don't believe they could have just come up with a run-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Never mind!!!!!!! I answered my own question. The rules are on the FIM site and quite clearly state a run off. Â Anyone else interested in the rules can check out the FIM site here: Â http://www.fim.ch/en/default.asp?item=31 Â Go to Page 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Well there is some absolute piffle on here.... Â First of all let me state it was a racing incident, Bomber got knocked and slid off, Scottie was very lucky to get away with it. Â However it was not in any way malicous both were racing very hard ie NIcholls took bomber out on the first corner and then Bomber passed Nicholls and made him shut off, they both went onto the corner a bit too hot, I think Bomber tried to shut the door but left a gap which Nicholls tried to go through. Â Somebody laughingly stated that Nicholls even looked at Bomber before knocking him off, well of coourse he looked at him after all they were in very close proximity at 60 mph on bikes with no brakes, do you really think he should ride with blnkers on? Â It also makes me laugh about how people state nicholls is jealous, really? how do you know that? I see them every week at Brandon and I see no problem between them...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Well there is some absolute piffle on here.... First of all let me state it was a racing incident, Bomber got knocked and slid off, Scottie was very lucky to get away with it.  However it was not in any way malicous both were racing very hard ie NIcholls took bomber out on the first corner and then Bomber passed Nicholls and made him shut off, they both went onto the corner a bit too hot, I think Bomber tried to shut the door but left a gap which Nicholls tried to go through.  Somebody laughingly stated that Nicholls even looked at Bomber before knocking him off, well of coourse he looked at him after all they were in very close proximity at 60 mph on bikes with no brakes, do you really think he should ride with blnkers on?  It also makes me laugh about how people state nicholls is jealous, really? how do you know that? I see them every week at Brandon and I see no problem between them...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  The most sensible post on this thread, now i know why you are a Sir.  Bomber will be angry it happened and Scotty will be sad it happened to Bomber but they are both racers and respect each other. As i stated before no malicious intent  Wolfy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rabbit Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 It was a cynical move, diving into a gap that wasn't there, deliberately engineered because he was on his way out of next year's GP series, and there was no way that Hans/Nicki was going to........Hang on, wrong rider, it was Scott Nicholls. It was a typical racing incident, nothing malicious, just both riders going for the same bit of track. If Bomber doesn't get the expected nomination for next year, it will all be the ref's fault because he didn't stop the race and exclude Scott for being the cause of the stoppage. Except it wasn't the ref who knocked Bomber off of his bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Well there is some absolute piffle on here.... First of all let me state it was a racing incident, Bomber got knocked and slid off, Scottie was very lucky to get away with it.  However it was not in any way malicous both were racing very hard ie NIcholls took bomber out on the first corner and then Bomber passed Nicholls and made him shut off, they both went onto the corner a bit too hot, I think Bomber tried to shut the door but left a gap which Nicholls tried to go through.  Somebody laughingly stated that Nicholls even looked at Bomber before knocking him off, well of coourse he looked at him after all they were in very close proximity at 60 mph on bikes with no brakes, do you really think he should ride with blnkers on?  It also makes me laugh about how people state nicholls is jealous, really? how do you know that? I see them every week at Brandon and I see no problem between them...... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not all of us have been piffle-mongers though eh! Sir J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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