Qualifier Top 3

[colincooke]

Agreed Steve that this idea is a little too radical.

This is how i see it should be done.

The top 8 are seeded through the following year as per.

The remaining 7 go into a one-off meeting with the top 9(excluding existing GP riders) from the GP Challenge to decide who is in the series the following year.

I think that sounds fair, but maybe it's too simple.

[Steve Turner]

But that's pretty much how it's been in the past...and history shows it didn't work.

 

You can easily have riders with loads of talent who lack big sponsors and the best equipment and mechanics etc...and you put them up against riders who've had a full GP season, with all the details, back-up and experience that comes with that and you hope for a fair contest

You also have to stage this one all-important meeting at a place likely to create advantage for some and not others.

It CAN be great for fans, but it's never likely to be fair.

Do away with qualifying altogether...less meetings, less injuries, less disruption, less cost.

[colincooke]

But that's pretty much how it's been in the past...and history shows it didn't work.

 

You can easily have riders with loads of talent who lack big sponsors and the best equipment and mechanics etc...and you put them up against riders who've had a full GP season, with all the details, back-up and experience that comes with that and you hope for a fair contest 

You also have to stage this one all-important meeting at a place likely to create advantage for some and not others.

It CAN be great for fans, but it's never likely to be fair.

Do away with qualifying altogether...less meetings, less injuries, less disruption, less cost.

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OK right then, let's say scrap it all & go back to the on -off World Final.

Oh, those we're the days

[ballinger]

Go and have a lie down Mr Ballinger... and we'll have no more of your mad ideas thankyou 

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I blame standing on a freezing cold 2nd bend at Brandon filming the other night

 

Anyway, having had a lay down (as I'm feeling a little under the weather) I still think my idea has legs.

[Steve Turner]

I still think my idea has legs. 

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...in that case, can you please make it walk !

 

Get better soon mate

[The Know]

Dryml and Puk should be scrabbling around 14th and 15th.

 

3 very dull qualifiers, nobody new breaking into the Gp's.

 

Lindgren should be a shoe-in for a nommo with maybe Kasprzak and 2 of the non top 8 finishers

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Dryml, dire rider now will bring nothing to the g.p.

Puk, never rated him, bit of a puff.

Pedersen, been around to long now.

 

Roll on 2008, cant wait to see them ride

[tricky dicky]

Adams won't retire until another Australian, presumably Chris Holder, is ready to take his place.

And anyway, I think the former British champion will struggle to finish 9th, with superior riders such as Jagus, Hampel and Jonsson breathing down his neck - I think he'll finish 11th.

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Yes they are that superior that after 10 rounds all three are still behind Nicholls in the standings !!!

[Benedicte]

there is a possibility that Adams, Greg and Gollob wont ride next year and what do they do then fill it up with nr 4-5-6 from the gp challenge or fill it up with nr 9-10-11... from the final standings?

 

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If Adams, Hancock and Gollob won't ride next year, the GP's will lose some of the best riders in the world, and right now I don't think there are any other riders, who can replace them with entertaining and exciting speedway.

But who will replace them, if they call it a day?

 

In some ways, it would be fair enough to choose nr.4-6 from gp challence, which was Bjerre, Lubos and Rafal Dubrucki, because they all were really close to make into the final, and Lubos ended 4th because of the re-run.

 

as being Danish I'm over the moon by having 4 Danes in the GPs next year, and it would have been great with one more, Bjerre, but on the other hand, I'm glad that we only get 4, because 5 Danes will be to many though, but I'm agree with you that Bjerre, in some ways, deserves it more than Bjarne, but in the end, it was Bjarne who made it and not Bjerre.

 

then nr.9-11 might be in for nomination for 2008:

Jonsson, Hampel, Holta, Jagus, Nicholls? after Krsko it seems like Nicholls and Holta are fighting for finish in top 8, and it is possible.

But I think, if Hancock, Adams and Gollob call it a day, Nicholls would have good chances to get a Wild card.

 

before hearing that the three might stop in the end of the season I considered who will join 2008.

 

at this moment we have 4 Danes, 2 Aussies, 1 Pole, 1 Brit, 1 American and 1 Chech. so we miss 5 riders: nr.8 and 4 wildcards.

 

Nicki Pedersen, DK

Leigh Adams, AUS

Jason Crump, AUS

Tomasz Gollob, Pol

Hans Andersen, DK

Greg Hancock, USA

Chris Harris, GB

Niels-Kristian Iversen, DK

Lukas Dryml, CHE.R

Bjarne Pedersen, DK.

 

Andreas Jonsson, SWE(wildcard or 8th)

Scott Nicholls, GB(wildcard or 8th)

Jaroslaw Hampel, POL(wildcard or 8th)

Krystof Kasprzak, POL(Wildcard)?

Fredrik Lindgren, SWE(wildcard)?

 

tonight in Krsko, Holta and Nicholls showed that they want to finish in top 8, but who will it be?

personally, I want Nicholls or Jonsson to end 8th, mostly Jonsson, as Harris is already in, and it would be strange without him in the GPs. it's a dilemma for me, because I want them both to join 2008, but I'm sure both of them will return next year, one as 8th and one as wildcard.

 

Holta has the chance to finish 8th, but if he doesn't, who will then be the second Pole? they will have 2-3 Poles I suppose. probably Hampel and KK(perhaps?)?

 

Sweden will have 2 riders as well, and without a doubt, AJ will be one of them, and then I think it would be Freddie Lindgren.

 

Then GB will have 2 riders as well, Harris and Nicholls.

 

But if Adams, Hancock and Gollob calls it a day 3 more places are left, and it would be nice, if we could se some new faces, no offence Holta-fans!

 

How about a German or a Russian?

 

my candidates are:

Kenneth Bjerre(wishing)

Lubos Tomicek

Laguta(wildcard from Latvia)

Jonas Davidsson

Christian Hefenbrock

Daniel King

 

 

 

I'm tired, so I apologize if this doesn't make sense at all

Edited September 22, 2007 by Benedicte

[garf]

I have never understood why this circus is called the World Championship.

IMO there is too much economy politics in the way they are giving the wild cards (WC).

 

If they did put 7 WC to be won into the challenge, I bet a lot more of the "established GP riders" would be participating.

Just look at some of those who will most likely end outside no 8. They are already so sure of getting a permanent WC that they don't bother to qualify the right way.

[Ghostwalker]

I have never understood why this circus is called the World Championship.

IMO there is too much economy politics in the way they are giving the wild cards (WC).

 

If they did put 7 WC to be won into the challenge, I bet a lot more of the "established GP riders" would be participating.

Just look at some of those who will most likely end outside no 8. They are already so sure of getting a permanent WC that they don't bother to qualify the right way.

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yes but the problem is that the first rounds of the qualifiers are quite early in the season and a rider who would normally manage top 8 might find himelf outside top 8 because of Injuries. I Think AJ, Jagus, Hampel could very well all have been top 8 if they hadn't been injured. So i think the qualifiers needs to be looked over a bit to see how the GP riders that are with in top 8 in the first half of the Gps can be given a chance to qualify as well if they miss top 8.

[iris123]

But didn't Hampel & Jagus enter only to be knocked out?And Lindbäck who was struggling from the off,just didn't bother entering?

[Ghostwalker]

But didn't Hampel & Jagus enter only to be knocked out?And Lindbäck who was struggling from the off,just didn't bother entering?

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Well now that you mention it. but dont remember what happened with Jagus if he wasnt good enough or if he wasnt fit after the crash in Eskilstuna. Hampel no idea.