Swedish Playoffs 2007

[Ghostwalker]

You're right - it should have said Shields. My apologies.

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yes but if you had been right i would have agreed with beesboybert .

Edited September 27, 2007 by Ghostwalker

[Ghostwalker]

Västervik leads the 2nd part of their semifinal against Elit Vetlanda with 4points which makes a total lead of 20 points with 3 heats to go.

 

Västervik thereby is in the final against Dackarna.

 

Worth mentioning is that the young talented rider Billy Forsberg managed to beat Jason Crump when Billy and Gollob took 5-1 against Crump and Robin Aspgren in heat 10.

[superguest]

Vastervik V Dackarna

 

Both very good teams but Vastervik look the better IMO.

[Guest Schumi]

Elit Vetlanda versus Vastervik (27.09.07)

 

Vetlanda..48 [88]

 

1..J Crump..3,3,1,2',1,3 = 13+1

2..L Richardson..2',0,2',1,2' = 7+3

3..J Hampel..3,1,3,3,0 = 10

4..T H Jonasson..0,0 = 0

5..R Holta..2,2',3,3,3,2 = 15+1

6..L Jankowski..1,0,0,1 = 2

7..N Larsson = DNR

8..R Aspegren..0,1,0,0 = 1

 

Vastervik..48 [104]

 

1..B Pedersen..1,2',2,2,1 = 8+1

2..S Ulamek..0,3,1',1 = 5+1

3..T Chrzanowski..1',0,0,0 = 1+1

4..N-K Iversen..2,3,1,0,0 = 6

5..T Gollob..3,1,3,2,3 = 12

6..B Forsberg..2',2',2',1 = 7+3

7..C Harris..3,1,2',0,3 = 9+1

8..V Bergstrom = DNR

 

Ht 1..67.7..Crump, Richardson, Pedersen, Ulamek 5-1 (5-1)

Ht 2..67.7..Harris, Forsberg, Jankowski, Aspegren [Ex] 1-5 (6-6)

Ht 3..67.6..Hampel, Iversen, Chrzanowski, Jonasson 3-3 (9-9)

Ht 4..66.7..Gollob, Holta, Harris, Jankowski 2-4 (11-13)

Ht 5..68.0..Iversen, Harris, Aspegren, Richardson [E/F] 1-5 (12-18)

Ht 6..67.1..Ulamek, Pedersen, Hampel, Jonasson 1-5 (13-23)

Ht 7..66.2..Crump, Richardson, Iversen, Chrzanowski 5-1 (18-24)

Ht 8..67.1..Hampel, Holta, Gollob, Harris 5-1 (23-25)

Ht 9..67.5..Holta, Pedersen, Ulamek, Jankowski 3-3 (26-28)

Ht 10..67.4..Gollob, Forsberg, Crump, Aspegren 1-5 (27-33)

Ht 11..68.4..Harris, Forsberg, Jankowski, Aspegren 1-5 (28-38)

Ht 12..68.1..Holta, Crump, Ulamek, Chrzanowski 5-1 (33-39)

Ht 13..67.4..Hampel, Pedersen, Richardson, Iversen 4-2 (37-41)

Ht 14..67.5..Holta, Gollob, Crump, Chrzanowski [E/F] 4-2 (41-43)

Ht 15..67.6..Crump, Richardson, Forsberg, Iversen 5-1 (46-44)

Ht 16..67.5..Gollob, Holta, Pedersen, Hampel 2-4 (48-48)

 

Notes:

 

1..Ht 2 and Aspegren replaces Larsson for Vetlanda.

2..Ht 2 and Vetlanda's Aspegren gets into mischief and is excluded.

3..Ht 5 and Aspegren replaces Larsson for Vetlanda.

4..Ht 5 and Harris replaces Forsberg for Vastervik.

5..Ht 8 and Holta replaces Jonasson in a tactical move by Vetlanda.

6..Ht 10 and Aspegren replaces Larsson for Vetlanda.

7..Ht 11 and Aspegren replaces Larsson for Vetlanda.

8..Ht 12 and Crump replaces Jonasson in a tactical move by Vetlanda.

9..Ht 15 and it's Crump-Richardson for Vetlanda and it's Iversen-Forsberg for Vastervik.

10..Ht 16 and it's Hampel-Holta for Vetlanda and it's Pedersen-Gollob for Vastervik.

 

All details from:

 

www.speedway.nu

 

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Slightly OT, but what's the Swedish for "track record" please?

[marron]

Well Done Bomber

 

Dackarna to win in my opinion.

Edited September 27, 2007 by marron

[superguest]

Whats with the 'Ands' Schumi? Didnt think you thought so highly of Mr Andersen

Edited September 27, 2007 by superguest

[marron]

Not familiar with the way the Swedish meetings are run:

 

1. Are the riders in Heats 15 + 16 all nominated by team managers and do they have to be different riders in each one?

 

2. Also how are the changes decided ie. Crump allowed to replace Jonarsson in Heat 12?

 

3. Like BL speedway, can the reserves replace anyone as long as everyone's had a minimum amount of rides?

[superguest]

Not familiar with the way the Swedish meetings are run:

 

1. Are the riders in Heats 15 + 16 all nominated by team managers and do they have to be different riders in each one?

 

2. Also how are the changes decided ie. Crump allowed to replace Jonarsson in Heat 12?

 

3. Like BL speedway, can the reserves replace anyone as long as everyone's had a minimum amount of rides?

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1. Yes heat 15 can be anyone, heat 16 are the top 2 scorers from that meeting.

 

2. When a team goes 6 points down they can use a T/S. Each rider is allowed one T/S ride.

 

3. Reserves dont have to have any amount of rides. The junior reserve usually get two rides in the two reserve races, but the number 8 can take both of them.

[Subedei]

And the mighty Gollob leads Vastervik to their third final in as many years. But this time Vastervik will face different opponents in Dackarna Malilla, after dismissing current champions Vetlanda, the team they've faced in the 2005 and 2006 finals.

[marron]

1. Yes heat 15 can be anyone, heat 16 are the top 2 scorers from that meeting.

 

2. When a team goes 6 points down they can use a T/S. Each rider is allowed one T/S ride.

 

3. Reserves dont have to have any amount of rides. The junior reserve  usually get two rides in the two reserve races, but the number 8 can take both of them.

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Cheers

[Anders]

Sorry for a late answer, haven't spent much time in front of the computer the last three days.

 

My question is could it have been done and they could have raced in fair conditions?

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I'm not an expert, but we did have both machines and new shale to put on the track. Would it have been more dangerous than under normal track conditions? Well, yes, that's why the meeting was abandoned by the referee after discussion (sp?) with the team managers. Have I seen meetings been ridden in worse condition? Yes, many times in the GP's (Målilla last year for starters).

 

I talked with the track staff today and they said it would have been really patchy, and they know best I'm sure.

 

Or was it tactics on the highest level by Wirebrand and team? 

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Oh, I can't believe those conspiracy teories. The financial losses to cancel a meeting is high, it would be suiside to cancel/postpone a meeting just for the sake of it. (I know you mean it just as a "teaser")

 

Anyway beat Västervik and send them home shattered!

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I wish. Västervik was the far better team in the semifinals and won comfortably against us, our tail was too long to stand a chance.

 

Can't believe I'm saying this, but GO DACKARNA in the finals!

[tarabanko]

Yep GO Dackarna!

[sunnset]

Can i ask how you race the final in Sweden? is it the same as here once at home for both teams?

 

And when is the final(s) ?

 

thanx

[Zetters]

Can i ask how you race the final in Sweden? is it the same as here once at home for both teams?

 

And when is the final(s) ?

 

thanx

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Same as You! The Finals in next week tuesday at Malilla home of the Dackarna and wednesday at Vastervik.

[Ghostwalker]

And when is the final(s) ?

 

thanx

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have you missed the dates in the first post on the first page? there is all dates and links you'll need!

 

and about reserves. reserves can only be used in 6 heats.

 

The 2007 Swedish Champions will be Västervik i think. Simply because they have Chris harris as a reserve. Personally i dont like that teams can have a top 8 GP rider/ GP winner as a reserve.

Edited September 28, 2007 by Ghostwalker

[MARK246]

The 2007 Swedish Champions will be Västervik i think. Simply because they have Chris harris as a reserve. Personally  i dont like that teams can have a top 8 GP rider/ GP winner as a reserve.

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I know the points still count, but all the riders he beat in his last meeting were reserves. So he's just the top scoring reserve.

Edited September 28, 2007 by MARK246

[marron]

Any team news for either meeting?

[tarabanko]

Teams on tuesday:

 

Dackarna:

1) Hans Andersen

2) Peter Karlsson

3) Fredrik Lindgren

4) Lukas Dryml

5) Andreas Jonsson,

6) Sebastian Aldén

7) Robin Törnqvist

8) Joakim Engstrand

 

 

Västervik:

1) Bjarne Pedersen

2) Sebastian Ulamek

3) Tomasz Chrzanowski

4) Niels Kristian Iversen

5) Tomasz Gollob

6) Billy Forsberg

7) Chris Harris

8) Viktor Bergström

 

 

 

Teams on wednesday:

 

Västervik:

1) Bjarne Pedersen

2) Sebastian Ulamek

3) Tomasz Chrzanowski

4) Niels Kristian Iversen

5) Tomasz Gollob

6) Chris Harris

7) Billy Forsberg

8) Viktor Bergström

 

Dackarna:

1) Fredrik Lindgren

2) Lukas Dryml

3) Hans Andersen

4) Peter Karlsson

5) Andreas Jonsson

6) Sebastian Aldén

7) Robin Törnqvist

8) Joakim Engstrand

 

A crowd of over 8.000 is expected in Målilla

and in Västervik it will be a packed house between 5.000 - 8.000.

Hopefully the record of 12.000 peoples in the swedish elitserien can be broken on tuesday in Målilla.

 

The meetings can be followed here: http://www.speedway.nu/2007/res2007b.asp?ElitF

 

/ Mikael

[Guest Schumi]

Malilla versus Vastervik - 02-10-07

 

Mallila..53

 

1..H Andersen..1',3,2,0,3 = 9+1

2..P Karlsson..2,3,2',2',2' = 11+3

3..F Lindgren..3,3,2,3,1' = 12+1

4..L Dryml..0,1,1',3 = 5+1

5..A Jonsson....3,3,2',2,2 = 12+1

6..S Alden..2,0,0,0,0,2 = 4

7..R Tornqvist..0,X,0 = 0

8..J Engstrand = DNR

 

Vastervik..43

 

1..B Pedersen..3,2,2,1,3,0 = 11

2..S Ulamek..0,0 = 0

3..T Chrzanowski..2,1,0,1 = 4

4..N-K Iversen..1',2,0,0,0 = 3+1

5..T Gollob..2,0,3,1,3 = 9

6..B Forsberg..1,1',1,1 = 4+1

7..C Harris..3,1',1',3,3,1 = 12+2

8..V Bergstrom = DNR

 

Ht 1..56.3..Pedersen, Karlsson, Andersen, Ulamek 3-3 (3-3)

Ht 2..56.6..Harris, Alden, Forsberg, Tornqvist [E/F] 2-4 (5-7)

Ht 3..57.2..Lindgren, Chrzanowski, Iversen, Dryml 3-3 (8-10)

Ht 4..57.3..Jonsson, Gollob, Harris, Alden [Ex] 3-3 (11-13)

Ht 5..57.6..Karlsson, Iversen, Harris, Alden 3-3 (14-16)

Ht 6..57.5..Lindgren, Pedersen, Dryml, Ulamek 4-2 (18-18)

Ht 7..58.1..Andersen, Karlsson, Chrzanowski, Iversen 5-1 (23-19)

Ht 8..56.7..Harris, Lindgren, Dryml, Gollob [E/F] 3-3 (26-22)

Ht 9..57.5..Jonsson, Pedersen, Forsberg, Alden [Fall] 3-3 (29-25)

Ht 10..57.6..Gollob, Andersen, Forsberg, [Tornqvist Ex/2] Alden 2-4 (31-29)

Ht 11..57.0..Harris, Alden, Forsberg, Tornqvist 2-4 (33-33)

Ht 12..57.7..Dryml, Jonsson, Harris, Chrzanowski 5-1 (38-34)

Ht 13..58.0..Lindgren, Karlsson, Pedersen, Iversen 5-1 (43-35)

Ht 14..58.3..Pedersen, Jonsson, Gollob, Andersen 2-4 (45-39)

Ht 15..--.-..Andersen, Karlsson, Chrzanowski, Iversen [Fall] 5-1 (50-40)

Ht 16..57.8..Gollob, Jonsson, Lindgren, Pedersen [E/F] 3-3 (53-43)

 

Notes:

 

1..Ht 4 and Malilla's Alden gets into mischief and is excluded.

2..Ht 5 and Alden replaces Tornqvist for Malilla.

3..Ht 5 and Harris replaces Forsberg for Vastervik.

4..Ht 9 and Forsberg replaces Ulamek for Vastervik.

5..Ht 10 and Malilla's Tornqvist fails to beat the 2 minutes, is excluded and replaced by Alden.

6..Ht 12 and Harris replaces Ulamek for Vastervik.

7..Ht 14 and Pedersen replaces Chrzanowski in a tactical move by Vastervik.

8..Ht 15 and it's Andersen-Karlsson for Malilla and it's Chrzanowski-Iversen for Vastervik.

9..Ht 16 and it's Lindgren-Jonsson for Malilla and it's Pedersen-Gollob for Vastervik.

 

All details from:

 

http://www.speedway.nu

Edited October 2, 2007 by Schumi

[superguest]

The result was 53-43.

 

Great effort from PK, rolling back the years.