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Again classic speedway action tonight and Gollob yet again the star of the show. Big well done to him, and also KK for getting second spot! :approve:

 

NP could have taken a tumble in the final but it would have been a risky call which more than likely he wouldn't have got.

 

Excellent racing all night and luckily no serious injuries. The horrendous pileup of Hampel, Andersen and Pedersen could have ended the season for all three but for the safety fence.

 

Glad to see Lindback getting stuck in and even getting a race win. the confidence will return and I am sure in 2008 we will see the best of Antonio.

 

Thoroughly enjoyed it.

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I've not got Sky and i'm always up my folks for lunch on sundays but sadly the repeat showing is always to early for me, wish they'd put it on a bit later and i'd catch it!

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And I'm just glad that I'm too busy drowning in my own self pity and misery over Hans to not give two hoots about Nicky, Leigh or anyone else ;)

 

Though have to say well done Tomasz, he really is a class act

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Not a bad GP but could have been much better if they hadn't made the track so bloody slick!

Astonishing first lap by Gollob, just a shame that Adams wasn't in the final to take the title to the wire.

Pedersen once again class.

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Tomasz Gollob........ :shock:2.gif2.gif2.gif

 

Pure Genius! :approve:

 

Andersen exclusion......defiantly a 'homer' decision there - should have been either all four or Hampel out! And no-one could accuse me of being an Andersen fan!

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Again classic speedway action tonight and Gollob yet again the star of the show. Big well done to him, and also KK for getting second spot! :approve:

 

NP could have taken a tumble in the final but it would have been a risky call which more than likely he wouldn't have got.

 

Excellent racing all night and luckily no serious injuries. The horrendous pileup of Hampel, Andersen and Pedersen could have ended the season for all three but for the safety fence.

 

Felt tonight's GP was a bit like some films...started well, dipped in the middle and then picked up at the end.

 

Gollob is still pure box-office. The move was madness and no-one else would have got away with it. Think Nicki's adrenaline kicked in with his immediate reaction but he was at least philosophical abouut it afterwards. KK did better than I thougt, even if it did mean my other half swearing at the TV all evening...he hates him. :rolleyes: Nice touch for him to mention his contacts at Poole and also Lakeside.

 

But what is up with Hancock? Surprised no-one's really mentioned this. Is it to do with a lack of British racing or is he just sliding down the tree?

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I am not advocating anything.Just repeating what i heard.At least that is what i think i heard.As for "Little Nicki",i think you will find him at the top come the end of the season.You need to be more than the master of one track to be World Champ,ya know B)

 

 

I repeat what i heard because it was said and is therefore relevant. :blink:

 

And do you actually read what is posted or just make it up in your head?Where did i say "Gollob doesn't perform well on tracks other than tonights"?The man is a true entertainer and has all the track craft in the world.Just he will retire without ever being World Champ and Nicki will be a multiple Champ.Unless next year they host about 5 GPs at Bydgoszcz

 

I read well I believe. I read "You need to be more than the master of one track to be World Champ, ya know B)" as inferring that you believed Gollob could not perform on any other track than Bydgoszcz. I apologise if that is not the case, but inferred is inferred. Yes, Tomasz will probably retire in 2009 without ever winning the SGP, but what a gap he will leave imo. SGP may create World Champions but Great Speedway Riders are Born, not created by a system designed for TV.

 

And actually, what did you hear and from whom? :-)

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Andersen exclusion......defiantly a 'homer' decision there - should have been either all four or Hampel out! And no-one could accuse me of being an Andersen fan!

 

Coudn't agree more - cept with the bit about being an Andersen fan coz I most def could be accused of that.

 

And proud of it!

 

And looking forward to defending him to the death when Schumi's finished her other argument :wink:

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Coudn't agree more - cept with the bit about being an Andersen fan coz I most def could be accused of that.

 

And proud of it!

 

And looking forward to defending him to the death when Schumi's finished her other argument  :wink:

 

Ha, Ha. Hope that ones been put to bed now - so here goes, there is no way that Hampel was at fault for the crash in that Heat. The only possible cause of the stoppage was Hans Andersen putting his front wheel over the (raised) white line and losing control because of it and running straight into Hampel who had nowhere to go apart from the fence taking Nicki (I almost said 'Little Nicki' but won't in case it upsets some people) off in the process. No doubt weaker refs would have put all 4 back, but excluding Hans as the primary cause of the stoppage was, imo, correct.

 

Hans Andersen has all the potential to be a future SGP champion, but imo won't as he is too static on the bike and, as yet, cannot create enough different lines to pass riders who have gated in front of him, or defend against quicker riders behind him. Unless he develops a gating strategy like Nicki's this season, he will not be SGP champion - imho.

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Andersen exclusion......defiantly a 'homer' decision there - should have been either all four or Hampel out! And no-one could accuse me of being an Andersen fan!

 

I disagree. Andersen's exclusion was bang on. The kerbs at Bydgoszcz aren't as forgiving as the kerbs at the EoES - Andersen tried to get an advantage by going over the kerb, but it caught him out and he lost control. He had to go.

There's a general air of desperation over some of Andersen's riding at the minute in the GPs - he tried to smash Gollob into the fence in a later heat, but Gollob was far too good for him.

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Ha, Ha.  Hope that ones been put to bed now - so here goes, there is no way that Hampel was at fault for the crash in that Heat.  The only possible cause of the stoppage was Hans Andersen putting his front wheel over the (raised) white line and losing control because of it and running straight into Hampel who had nowhere to go apart from the fence taking Nicki (I almost said 'Little Nicki' but won't in case it upsets some people) off in the process.  No doubt weaker refs would have put all 4 back, but excluding Hans as the primary cause of the stoppage was, imo, correct.

 

Hans Andersen has all the potential to be a future SGP champion, but imo won't as he is too static on the bike and, as yet, cannot create enough different lines to pass riders who have gated in front of him, or defend against quicker riders behind him.  Unless he develops a gating strategy like Nicki's this season, he will not be SGP champion - imho.

 

And IMHO you are, yet again this evening, talking pants!! ;)

 

Point 1. As Schumi also rightly points out, Hampel leant on him and he had no choice. If ever there should have been an all four riders back scenario, this was it, and I am just thankful that although he then didn't go on to have a good night, at least it appears initially that, unlike after the last GP, he is not going to have the repercussions he did then.

 

2 He will be a world champion and IMHO it is only the fact he was not in the GP series from the start last year that his name is not already in the history books.

 

So there

 

Now be told and stop causing trouble you naughtly little tinker :D

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Been a bad night, but I'm not usually like that.

 

Okay, my view: Hans could do nothing about Hampel shoving him over the kerb and was lucky to avoid a serious accident, but the move later on, on Gollob, was unjustified. He needs to start riding his own races, not worrying about individuals he wants to beat, then he might score better in the GPs. His league form shows he's more than capable of beating the world's best :)

 

Obviously you're right about the first incident.

 

Re Gollob, this is the world stage they're performing on and you've got to be tough. OK, he may have riden him hard (and yes, I already know there's an inuendo in that!! :P ) but no more than Tomasz did later to Nicki or Nicki does to everyone else but then bleats about it when he has it done to him etc etc, bla bla.

 

But I think you make your points excellently and eloquently ;):D

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And IMHO you are, yet again this evening, talking pants!!  ;)

 

Point 1. As Schumi also rightly points out, Hampel leant on him and he had no choice. If ever there should have been an all four riders back scenario, this was it, and I am just thankful that although he then didn't go on to have a good night, at least it appears initially that, unlike after the last GP, he is not going to have the repercussions he did then.

 

2 He will be a world champion and IMHO it is only the fact he was not in the GP series from the start last year that his name is not already in the history books.

 

So there

 

Now be told and stop causing trouble you naughtly little tinker  :D

 

Pants now. At least not an A'hole - although I suppose pants do cover an A'hole :0

 

 

Point 1: Heck, a speedway rider leaning on another , what next? As the records will show, Hans was excluded from that Heat as being the primary cause of the stoppage, i.e. no throttle control.

 

Point 2: Time will tell. And the reason he was not in from the start of last season was.......? And of course he would have got more points that Jason Crump if he had of been..........

 

Gosh, there are an awful lot of Danish speedway fans in Britain..... Lighten up guys.

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I modified it because a friend asked me to. And if so much as one other person thinks I owe you an apology then I shall. Anyone?

 

Me!

 

Still a very offensive and unecessary term. You should learn to curb your anger and if you don't feel it necessary to apologise without the need to get some sort of backing, it just shows what a sorry place this has become.

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