SuzieQ Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Steve had a suggestion about a Management TEAM reckon that could work one mentor, one manager, one admin, one technical but then might end up with too many chiefs not enough indians sort of thing but think it would certainly take the pressure off of the riders but if we lost there would be a choice of people to blame then wouldn't there <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Errrrrrrrrrrrrr! Didn't work too well at Reading! Too many cooks and all that! then you get the blame culture coming in too, when they would all blame each other and nothing would ever get sorted! Let's face it Shaz, they need a woman to sort them out, kick their butts etc! I vote for MadameMuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Is that not really what a manager is supposed to do? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah lol but I meant like more of a behind the scenes kind of thing. That management team idea sounds like a good one to me, only I can't help but agree with whoever it was (possibly Shazzybird but I didn't quote that bit of her post lol) who said everyone would end up blaming each other and in the end you're back at square 1 with ntohing being sorted out. IMO we just need a new manager, full stop. Middlo's had enough goes at it now and we still get nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzybird Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Let's face it Shaz, they need a woman to sort them out, touch their butts etc! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <cough> <cough> Can I can do that bit please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madame muck Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Errrrrrrrrrrrrr! Didn't work too well at Reading! Too many cooks and all that! then you get the blame culture coming in too, when they would all blame each other and nothing would ever get sorted! Let's face it Shaz, they need a woman to sort them out, kick their butts etc! I vote for MadameMuck! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well thanx, i guess you are saying i am good at kicking some butts! I'm sure i would have a good go at it though. Edited July 24, 2007 by madame muck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of clubs Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I very much doubt that changing the manager will have any effect on the team's success.The manager does not ride the bikes.The fact of the matter is that our boys cannot cut the mustard and cannot compete at an international level as a team.We do not currently have the riders that can do so. However i do suspect that Mr Middleditch does the job to publicise Poole,which is fine by me as long as he does so when managing Poole and not when managing England .The national team manager should be seen to be totally neutral.I would say this about any club,not just Poole.Ditch the Poole logos Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorset delight Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 neil is sponserd by the poole tourist board.thats why the logo is on his shirt.give the bloke a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I very much doubt that changing the manager will have any effect on the team's success.The manager does not ride the bikes.The fact of the matter is that our boys cannot cut the mustard and cannot compete at an international level as a team.We do not currently have the riders that can do so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so what needs to be done is to bring in a management team that can all help in some way to try and get the riders to a point where they can cut the mustard. i said before, get in people from different avenues ... motivation, mechanical ... let them work together. maybe the riders don't cut the mustard because the backup they are getting is the same as its been for some years and it needs fresh input, new ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hannibal Thomas Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I can't think past George English when it comes to a new team manager for the nation. The guy is a sports scientist guru in the same manner as Sam Allardyce, and knows how to get the best of out his riders. We see it each year George constantly transforming riders and making them perform to the best of their ability. I hope the BSPA don't take the easy option and give the job to someone who has not been in the sport for 5 minutes at the expense of potentially the Alf Ramsey of Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rob Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I've been saying ages we need to get rid of McLaren Ooops, wrong sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 (edited) neil is sponserd by the poole tourist board.thats why the logo is on his shirt.give the bloke a break. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Expect some people still think Neil should pay for his own expenses to and from international duty though D.D. God forbid some local firms help him out through sponsorship. Edited July 28, 2007 by rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Middlo is doing a great job. His team has some good prospects that now have a taste of international experience as a team. The team is only as good as the sum of the parts, plus from time to time, someone who rises to the occasion, will spur on the rest to raise their level enough to capture a medal. Middlo has a very good repoir with his riders, but that doesn't stop him from making the tough decisions when necessary. He is an asset to Team GB, and would be my choice for as long as he wants the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaingeesh Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Funnily enough Steve...If Middlo was to go then i would like someone like Rob Lyon to take over..... jaybea <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaingeesh Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 hone why dont you do it you know so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Expect some people still think Neil should pay for his own expenses to and from international duty though D.D. God forbid some local firms help him out through sponsorship. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well the German team manager Robert Barth had to buy his own admission ticket for the SWC quali in Germany earlier this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Schumi Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 (edited) hone why dont you do it you know so much <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Steve is spot on with his post: i still think it needs to be a management TEAM ... one for technical, one as a man motivator, and possibly someone else to sort all the admin side of the team, making sure they all have their passports etc <{POST_SNAPBACK}> During the World Cup the Poles were looking average, but they pulled it together and rode a cracking final. Why? It seems they all worked hard as a team - riders, mechanics etc - to make it work, whilst team GB, by Harris' own admission tonight, "didn't want it enough." Motivation is only one small part. The Brits were out sampling the local culture whilst the Poles worked hard to get what they wanted (and yes, I've heard from someone who was there and witnessed it). Criticise me if you like, but it's the truth. It's not just Middlo who is to blame, it's the whole package. Whether anyone will accept it or not is a different matter. Edited July 28, 2007 by Schumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevan Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I think we should look at keeping Middlo as manager but adding in an assistant manager in the form of Floppy Norris, there is no one more passionate about his country and he knows the ins and outs of getting the engines to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 hone why dont you do it you know so much <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so why don't you do it, you have your head far enough up your arse to make it count. F.O.F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Well the German team manager Robert Barth had to buy his own admission ticket for the SWC quali in Germany earlier this season! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly! So it's not just a British thing. And Middo was also paying for his own flights, accomodation etc also in previous years. If he gets sponsorship to cover the costs then can't see the problem whether it's named as from Poole or Timbucktoo to be honest. Until the sport pays for the national manager to do their job properly the sponsorship will have to stay. Unless of couse people want the guy to pay to do the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnbroker Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Exactly! So it's not just a British thing. And Middo was also paying for his own flights, accomodation etc also in previous years. If he gets sponsorship to cover the costs then can't see the problem whether it's named as from Poole or Timbucktoo to be honest. Until the sport pays for the national manager to do their job properly the sponsorship will have to stay. Unless of couse people want the guy to pay to do the job <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are pay him to leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 so why don't you do it, you have your head far enough up your arse to make it count. F.O.F <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OK! What does this stand for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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