back straight bee Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 probably will not happen but sam ermolenko gets my vote to help out great britain .his speedway knowledge of bikes and tracks is immense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Perhaps it's because I see his work week in week out and know he is the best speedway manager in the country. The riders all say the same so what do you or I know? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now I don't want to see Rosco as GB team manager, but stop and think for a second Steve. Middlo at Poole has one of the best three squads in the EL to work with, of course he is successful. A successful manager however is one that can turn a bunch of mediocre riders into world class ones. As for riders saying he's good, they ain't gonna slate him are they if they want to rider for Team GB. I think he's had his shot at it and it's time someone else was given a chance, but please not Rosco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I'm surprised he can get in there with the amount of Swindon fans that are already there! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh Sue that a cracker My nomination for post of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedy Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) A successful manager however is one that can turn a bunch of mediocre riders into world class ones. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats impossible!! Riders either have the ability or don't. It's possible in football to get 11 average players to function well as a team but in SWC its every rider for themselves. No speedway manager can work miracles!!! Edited July 21, 2007 by spedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thats impossible!! Riders either have the ability or don't. It's possible in football to get 11 average players to function well as a team but in SWC its every rider for themselves. No speedway manager can work miracles!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not so sure about that. Look at the effect of, for example, Ole Olsen and Ivan Mauger on Erik Gundersen and Hans Nielsen respectively. I think the right manager can make a big difference, and in World Cups I'd say it's people like this that would make the best managers. Who have GB got though? I'm not sure about Tim Sugar who is a great tactical manager, but I'm not so sure that this type of competition would totally suit his management style. At this level we need more a "mentor" than yer average team manager, and, to be honest, I'm not sure we have one. Someone suggested Gary Havelock, who is possibly a good suggestion having been there/done it and also a strong, patriotic character. Other than that I don't think we can judge without knowing what goes on in the pits and how it effects the riders. There's much more than "playing the joker" to managing a World Cup squad. It's also notable that the two teams at the top tonight are the two that - as far as I can see anyway - seem to have the strongest team ethic and team spirit in the camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartace Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 i dont see a need for change...but if there is to be one then Tim Sugar must be the man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thats impossible!! Riders either have the ability or don't. It's possible in football to get 11 average players to function well as a team but in SWC its every rider for themselves. No speedway manager can work miracles!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't agree.We keep hearing Middlo is a great motivator.What is the good of that if he can't help make a rider perform above himself?Today they didn't even perform average let alone above themselves.Look at the other team managers.All international riders,who have experience on various tracks around the world.Does Middlo have the experience to match them on all types of tracks?I say get someone who knows the way to ride all sorts of tracks not just british ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Actually I agree now - Middlo quit the job. Stick to being a great manager at Poole and let someone else do the Team GB job. Then when that new manager has exactly the same sorts of results with the same riders wait and see what these people spouting off have to say then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 If Jesus Christ had been our TM tonight we would still not have won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back straight bee Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 If Jesus Christ had been our TM tonight we would still not have won! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> true but we might have a had better chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 If Jesus Christ had been our TM tonight we would still not have won! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree.What would a guy from the middle east know about speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 If Jesus Christ had been our TM tonight we would still not have won! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wonder if David Howe would have got more than the 1 point Stead and Kennett got If he had, I'd have made a better manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I agree.What would a guy from the middle east know about speedway? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He could have healed Walasek's illness though. Perhaps he should manage Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEverWrong Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Middle Ditch the manager - brings back memories! The manager can only work with what he has at his disposal, I actually think Middlo has done a brilliant job over the years under the circumstances. As for bringing in Rosco, no thanks, we have enough clowns running the sport in our country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 He could have healed Walasek's illness though. Perhaps he should manage Denmark. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed,but he would be better off doing the catering.Think of the profits that could be made from fish rolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Middle Ditch the manager - brings back memories! The manager can only work with what he has at his disposal,If it's that simple, give the job to my mum! Lets go one step further, give the job to a chimp!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spedy Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Someone suggested Gary Havelock, who is possibly a good suggestion having been there/done it and also a strong, patriotic character. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gary Havelock hasn't made Scott Nicholls a better rider in the GP's tho!! I understand your point but I don't think anyone can improve a rider. Perhaps Middlo should go but I would put my mortgage on the fact he's replacement wouldn't do any better. Even more so than in regular speedway it's purely down to the individuals. Team GB fall well short of the mark unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Gary Havelock hasn't made Scott Nicholls a better rider in the GP's tho!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True. It was just a wild "clutching at straws" suggestion anyway. I do think that the right man can coax riders to ride above themselves, but I also think such managers are few and far between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate paul Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Agreed,but he would be better off doing the catering.Think of the profits that could be made from fish rolls <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Post of the year goes to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritPete Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I wonder if David Howe would have got more than the 1 point Stead and Kennett got If he had, I'd have made a better manager <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you seriously think that David Howe is the way forward for British speedway, then you need urgent help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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