Leave some for us. Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 No I assume I'm a member of the "look at me gang" am I as one of your members refered to me as fairy boy? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Calm down mate its not worth it. You are far better than this!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 sorry might wont to check out all the averages betwin them in the league too see who better rider <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't claim Scott was a better rider (all facts and figures suggest he's not) - just that if Scott was that 'rubbish' - how bad did that make Hans considering he was passed by Scott in the most important race of the night? No bottle Andersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Disappointing. Britain may have never have won this meeting, but I really am getting tired of home nations having so much of an advantage by practicing before the meetings. Any other track in the world, would have seen Denmark triumphant and Poland .....with that team, fighting it out with the two other nations. The GB racers lacked the right track for them tonight, but at least they got there, unlike the Swedes, who have fallen away as a nation. BUT, I think it is about time these kind of meetings were held in Germany, Italy, Norway etc not just to make it fairer but give other weaker nations an incentive of making the semis or final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essaitch Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 passed Hans in the most important race of the night though didn't he? Oh dear - Heatleader who can't handle the pressure from 'rubbish' Scotty Nicholls <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think you'll fing Scott passed Hans because Hand made a desperate lunge on Gollob, second behind Gollob wasn't enough. Don't think Scott would have got near if Hans had settled for second. Quite dissapointed in Scott and Lee and especially Bomber. Never in the races. Leigh Adams struggled a lot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I dont think they really under performed they did pretty much as i expected, As SS as said EK, OA, and SS are really nothing more than second string Elite league riders, we all know Rico has been struggling although he seems to be getting it back together a bit lately. Scotty in my opinion despite what people on here have said wasnt to bad. The only really disapointing Gb performance was from bomber. So yes i stick by my original post i dont think any other team manger would have got anything more from the brits tonight <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Disagree.Like i said i don't include Ed in the criticism,nor Allen as he wasn't in the team proper.But just look at the riders who won heats.Bjerre,Iversen,Sullivan + Watt for instance.Are you really saying we have no rider on a par with them.At least one that can win a heat?Sorry the team under-performed big time.Why,is the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Think you'll fing Scott passed Hans because Hand made a desperate lunge on Gollob <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know mate - it was only tounge in cheek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchesterpaul Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Just watched this final on the internet live feed provided by fellow forum member Gray. Interesting interview with Hans Andersen at the end. On more than one occasion he was quite skeptical about Grzegorz Walsek having a foot injury. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have just posted that this comment (started as a thread) had been removed. I now see that it was moved into the main thread. That's all well and good. However, how do i remove the thread that i started? Firstly, i could not find a delete facility. Then i noticed the thread had been locked. Please can a Moderator remove the thread titled 'what time can we post on the final' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cec838 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 I didn't claim Scott was a better rider (all facts and figures suggest he's not) - just that if Scott was that 'rubbish' - how bad did that make Hans considering he was passed by Scott in the most important race of the night? No bottle Andersen <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ha ha hans no bottle.........thiink i will leave it with nicholls with 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbit Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Nice to see that Walasek's foot injury had recovered well enough for him to sprint out like a gazelle to give Gollob the bumps. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, we noticed that too. Shame, as I'm a big Walasek fan but that Polish moved certainly stank a bit. What about Kennett suddenly having an shoulder injury, when did that happen. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think Kennett has been carrying an injury for a while - picked up while guesting for Swindon a couple of weeks back. Surely you can't believe that.GB under-performed tonight by a fair bit.Can't criticise Ed,but the rest?And who is the guy who should be advising and motivating them?The manager. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We were poor yes, but who can hand on heart say they thought we'd do any better? Compared to the other teams there tonight we were the weakest and so it proved on track. End of the day, Middlo can motivate and advise all he wants, but when the rider drops the clutch when the tapes go up, it's down to him on track and his machinery. We just weren't good enough and just don't have the real world class riders a la Andersen, Crump, Gollob some of the other teams do to make the best of a bad job. Harsh but true I'm afraid but it didn't stop me cheering on our lads in every single race and it was good to seem some more points being picked up at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Britain may have never have won this meeting, but I really am getting tired of home nations having so much of an advantage by practicing before the meetings. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> maybe GB should have got a go last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Dave there's nothing wrong, just using the same excuse the Poles did to give the reserves a runout once both countries were out of the running. Neither Kennett or Holder fell off or were involved in any incident that I noticed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No Wuckin' Furries Steve, I'll take yer word for it. (Omigod what have I said???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 ha ha hans no bottle.........thiink i will leave it with nicholls with 7 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think I'll leave it with: Heat 25: Gollob 3. Nicholls 2. Andersen 1. Adams 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 A good point Steve in that we should not have had high expectations. One point I would make though is that we have to make more effort to gain expererience on foreign tracks. In the past 2 years Kennett has given the World Under 21 Team Cup a miss, to ride a Saturday night at Rye, and this year has not bothered with the GP qualifiers. Whilst he has his reasons, surely the experience he would have gained at such events would have stood him in good stead for the future? If we are to get some "better" days then our new young riders need to get this experience of riding on the continent. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think the Poole promotion and Middlo were very disappointed when Eddie said he wasn't going to try for the GP series. It would have been a huge experience for him even if he failed to qualify, but Eddie said he wanted to concentrate on the U21 final. Basically all the other teams were a few miles an hour faster than our boys. To blame Middlo is ridiculous. If a brit gated he was at the back within a couple of laps. Is that Middlo's fault? The fault stems from years of not having a CL and little in the way for British youngsters to come through. At least we are now starting to see the benefits of the CL with great new talent begining to emerge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 yes yes uk only 15 point i think you may find someone else to talk about try with your own rider and hans is a good captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 BUT, I think it is about time these kind of meetings were held in Germany, Italy, Norway etc not just to make it fairer but give other weaker nations an incentive of making the semis or final. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And then there will only be about 1000 people there watching it! You can see with that crowd tonight and atmosphere why they have it in Poland every few years. Got a feeling though it could be back in Vojens next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cec838 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 as you said only tounge and cheek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFE Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 If we believe tonights GB performance was as Middleditch said " a bad day at the office" we are deluding ourselves, we were mechanically inferior, and the sad fact is that Loram apart, we have no-one who could have done better. Maybe this is symptomatic of the reason that we have become a third rate speedway nation, behind Poland & Denmark, and if we are serious in lifting the status of the sport in this country, we need to start investing in youth! I wonder what the National Press will make of this pi-s poor performance. What a shambles, but well done to Poland who used the rules to their advantage, wish we were in the same situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markone Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Why do sky only show the lap or so on replay, often stopping just as a good pass is about to happen, then they show you the same lap from a different angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cec838 Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Think I'll leave it with: Heat 25: Gollob 3. Nicholls 2. Andersen 1. Adams 0. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> or hans 22231=10 nicholls111tr22=7 ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Disagree.Like i said i don't include Ed in the criticism,nor Allen as he wasn't in the team proper.But just look at the riders who won heats.Bjerre,Iversen,Sullivan + Watt for instance.Are you really saying we have no rider on a par with them.At least one that can win a heat?Sorry the team under-performed big time.Why,is the question. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We will just have to agree to disagree then lol!!!, i wasnt there and dont know how much motivation middlo was giving the boys but at the end of the day no matter what he does or says when the tapes go up its down to the riders and im afraid the Brits just arent as good as the other nations at the moment but im sure our time will come, at least middlo gave the youngsters a chance which can only be good for the future Again well done all 4 teams - what speedway should be about, good racing winner not decided until last heat and a bit of controversy thrown in - perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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