colincooke Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 And Tomasz Gollob has been Polish champion seven times and this time next week it could be eight (the Polish final is on Wednesday). God alone knows how many times Leigh Adams has been Australian champion, or Greg Hancock American champion. Now, let's bang GP titles on the table. Gollob has ten, Hancock seven (I think), Adams five and the former British champion has none. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Listen ,what's important is finishing in that top 8 & you don't need to win gp's to do that.I just wish folk would lay off the guy, he don't need the hassle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Star Lady  I dont think anyone is saying Gollob has no talent...He is by far the most naturally talented Speedway rider i have seen......and has been and still is a better rider than Scott Nicholls on his day.....I think it is just the constant barrage that you Subedei etc etc give Nicholls....Yes he has under achieved but a lot of people want him to achieve......He is always there in the Elite League week in week out....Not needing dodgy Polish medical certificates......to get him through the week.....I believe that even if Scott won a GP you would not have a good word to say about him because as you say" you dont like him"....Well fine...Why not go back to your sad and childish little subedei bored and make up rude words and abuse people who have not got the right to reply instead of giving us your very short sighted opinion on here  jirout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Listen m8,what's important is finishing in that top 8 & u don't need 2 win gp's 2 do that.I just wish folk would lay off the guy, he don't need the hassle <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â No it isn't important to finish in the top eight. Well, not if your name is Scott Nicholls, anyway. When was the last time he finished in the top eight? I've argued for years that if he can't make the top eight he should be kicked out. I take it from your comments that you agree with me and as such believe he shouldn't be in the series this season anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) No it isn't important to finish in the top eight. Well, not if your name is Scott Nicholls, anyway. When was the last time he finished in the top eight? I've argued for years that if he can't make the top eight he should be kicked out. I take it from your comments that you agree with me and as such believe he shouldn't be in the series this season anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually i disagree,& their will always be more than one brit in the series anyway & Scotty & Bomber the only 2 worthy right now Edited August 12, 2007 by colincooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Listen m8,what's important is finishing in that top 8 & u don't need 2 win gp's 2 do that.I just wish folk would lay off the guy, he don't need the hassle <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Â Actually i disagree,7 their will always b more than 1 brit in the series anyway & Scotty & Bomber the only 2 worthy right now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Make your mind up, will you. Say whether you have integrity or don't mind the corruption that sees this serial failure beg his way into the series year after year after year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Ya cannot compare gollob with nicholls. Gollob is a great rider where as nicholls is a good rider who always falls at the last hurdle. To many problems in his head to ever get to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Star Lady I dont think anyone is saying Gollob has no talent...He is by far the most naturally talented Speedway rider i have seen......and has been and still is a better rider than Scott Nicholls on his day.....I think it is just the constant barrage that you Subedei etc etc give Nicholls....Yes he has under achieved but a lot of people want him to achieve......He is always there in the Elite League week in week out....Not needing dodgy Polish medical certificates......to get him through the week.....I believe that even if Scott won a GP you would not have a good word to say about him because as you say" you dont like him"....Well fine...Why not go back to your sad and childish little subedei bored and make up rude words and abuse people who have not got the right to reply instead of giving us your very short sighted opinion on here  jirout <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  Jirout I didn't start the comparison of Nicholls to Gollob. Try looking at post #52. Read my post again, do I knock Nicholls? I don't think so, I didn't praise him which in your eyes amounts to the same thing no doubt. No I don't like Scott Nicholls, but had he won a GP, I would give him the same amount of praise as I would any other rider. One thing I do agree with you on is that he doesn't not suffer overly with GPitis, which is much to his credit. As I said I wasn't trying to change anyones opinions and to the best of my knowledge everyone is entitled to voice their own, even on this board. As for Subedei being bored ....nah don't think so and everyone and I repeat everyone has the right to reply on Subby's board, unlike this one, where if your post don't fit it get deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I can't beleive in trying to defend Nicholls people are saying Gollob hasn't got talent WTF did you get that one from? The comment was saying Gollob did not have more talent in his little finger than the whole GB team (or even just Scott) as last night Scott proved he could battle/keep up with Tomasz! Â I don't think anyone has ever claimed Tomasz lacked talent or even that Scott has more. Â FWIW, give me Tomasz Gollob at his peak over Scott every time. Though these days, they're both equally as infuriating as they can both beat the best on any given day but on another struggle to beat the 'lesser' GP riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 From post 52  You, however, need to realise that Gollob does not have more racing ability than Scott (oh, 'and the rest of team GB put together') in his little finger. For someone who lacks so much racing talent, did a pretty good job of matching your hero for track craft, don't you think?  Or have I read it wrong. It says Gollob does not have more ability?????  I thought talent and ability were more or less the same and so does the Oxford Dictionary Thesaurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 The first line you have quoted shows you're wrong. SB is pointing out Gollob does not have more talent/ability in his little finger than Scott has in his whole body because if he did, he'd have found it a lot easier to pass and stay away form Scott. Â SB has not claimed Scott has more talent than Tomasz as he? Only that Scott has more talent than Tomasz does in his little finger, which is a comment Subedei made a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Shall we just agree that our interpretations of the quote differ and we both agree that when he is on form it's wonderful to watch Mr Gollob  Pax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Shall we both agree that when he is on form it's wonderful to watch Mr Gollob  Pax <{POST_SNAPBACK}>  A rider of rare and unmatched genius, compared to the obvious limitations of the former British champion. On a fair track, Gollob will always cruelly expose the limitations of such lesser riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEverWrong Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Nicholls neither has the temprament or brains to go far in the sport. He's also to fat, his bikes literally groan under the weight they have to carry. Lose the weight, lose the personal problems, lose the attitude and he might get some where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Shall we just agree that our interpretations of the quote differ and we both agree that when he is on form it's wonderful to watch Mr Gollob  Pax <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah go on then Lets hope Tomasz and Scott both end the season showing the form some of us know they're capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Nicholls neither has the temprament or brains to go far in the sport. He's also to fat, his bikes literally groan under the weight they have to carry. Lose the weight, lose the personal problems, lose the attitude and he might get some where. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungoid Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Actually i disagree,& their will always be more than one brit in the series anyway & Scotty & Bomber the only 2 worthy right now <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â Hopefully in a few years time we will see 2 young future stars of Josh and Tai ride in the GP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Star Lady  Would just like to apologise for my earlier posting...having re-read it ...i am afraid i was a little out of order....You are entitled to your opinion...and i respect that....I just find all the negativity and name calling by other members a little unsavoury  I like Scott Nicholls and indeed the Nicholls family and would love nothing more than he to become a Grand Prix winner as i am sure others would...  I am willing to agree that there are a lot of riders better than him...but for Subedei to criticise him for staying at home with his first child instead of chasing over Europe in the GP Qualifiers is i believe not fair  If Scott Nicholls does not qualify for the GP's in 2008 and is not invited back by IMG he will take it with dignity and respect and knuckle down and try and become a better rider  But he wants to be number 1.......Qualifying in 8th is not succeeding......being World Champion is succeeding...and while he still wants that then good luck to him.......To me that is something Gollob is not interested in any more....He used to be able to ride any track good or bad...but these days seems worried about injury  Saying that he is still one of the best riders i have ever seen...and i want to remember him for the Europe GP rather than the Czech one  jaybea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 A rider of rare and unmatched genius, compared to the obvious limitations of the former British champion. On a fair track, Gollob will always cruelly expose the limitations of such lesser riders. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Â So what was unfair about Prague? The fact that Gollob couldn't ride it and Scott could? And the same for Cardiff I suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 i dont think its god alone who knows the answer to that subedei as tony millard normally reminds us every time "the man from mildura" races  <{POST_SNAPBACK}>    ....and Matej Zagar is 5 times Slovenian Champion! Grrrrr! Yes, we all know , Tony!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) Read through some of the previous posts, and I think that Scott will finish in the top eight this year, as I also think Gollob will as well. I have to say that both have something in common, and that is this year they have both been inconsistent, Gollob on his day is the most exciting and skillful rider, but his inconsistency lets him down, that is why he has never and will never win the title. I think that Scott will never win the title, but if you put only the riders that could possible win the title in the Grand Prix you would be left with only about 3 or 4 riders. I also think that Scott might now have live with the fact that he is not going to be the Brits number 1 rider. I think that Chris Harris has stole his mantle there, Chris for me is like Chris Louis says not just a racer, but is very intelligent, and I think that as he learns more he will be up there challenging. Edited August 13, 2007 by spin king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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