rebeccawalker Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 IMO Gelsenkirchen is going to save Scott <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I god damn hope so, he was poor on Saturday night, don't know what is wrong with him, good solid league form and then goes and rides like that in the GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I god damn hope so, he was poor on Saturday night, don't know what is wrong with him, good solid league form and then goes and rides like that in the GP. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bydgoszcz has never been his favourite track....never done well around there. That's league and GP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Bydgoszcz has never been his favourite track....never done well around there. That's league and GP. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not surprising, really. You need skill and finese to master Bydgoszcz - just trying to throw your weight around doesn't get you very far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Not surprising, really. You need skill and finese to master Bydgoszcz - just trying to throw your weight around doesn't get you very far. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do need a fair bit upstairs to understand Bydgoszcz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Yeah, its really difficult to stick your back wheel on the bouncy castle and give it a handful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Yeah, its really difficult to stick your back wheel on the bouncy castle and give it a handful <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doesn't seem to be something either of your heroes has managed to master, does it? But let's look at some of your comments before you became a Bee: You have this rated as "More classic Gollob": And this little clip of Gollob sticking his back wheel on the bouncy castle and giving it a handful has you stating "Gollob at his very best": And this one has you saying "Classic Tomasz Gollob. Class": I've looked and looked, but can't seem to find many clips posted by your good self showing the former British champion displaying such majesty. You see, there was a time when you recognised the difference between genius and mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Yeah, its really difficult to stick your back wheel on the bouncy castle and give it a handful <{POST_SNAPBACK}> but Scott still didn't manage it, no matter how easy it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 but Scott still didn't manage it, no matter how easy it is <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True, and that much I'm not arguing with Scott's biggest problem at tracks like Bydgoszcz is he lacks speed. Really isn't profesional enough with regard to bikes, equipment e.t.c and that's his biggest problem. Until he decides he wants to be a world champion, rather than it 'being nice if it happened' - he'll never even get close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Scott's biggest problem at tracks like Bydgoszcz is he lacks speed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, his biggest problem is he's just not good enough - stop with the pathetic excuses about a lack of speed, poor luck, time of the month; it's a lack of talent that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 True, and that much I'm not arguing with Scott's biggest problem at tracks like Bydgoszcz is he lacks speed. Really isn't profesional enough with regard to bikes, equipment e.t.c and that's his biggest problem. Until he decides he wants to be a world champion, rather than it 'being nice if it happened' - he'll never even get close. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When Scott left Smederna after 9 seasons and started riding for Bajen this season Scotty said that now he had the chance to pursue his aim for the WC title. (or something similar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatface Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I was there and agree that the lack of speed was all too clear. You can't fault Scott for effort, nor his all-round riding - he's controlled and pretty aggressive. But in terms of horsepower, he just doesn't seem to be at the races. He is consisently one of the last from the tapes and even when he is in front, he is fending riders off rather than pulling away. Although, have to say, he wasn't alone, Jason Crump seemed to in a similar boat to Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I am puzzled, why do you need skill and finesse to get around Bydgoszcz surely as it is a big track you open the throttle and go to some extent, yes there are certain lines you can ride but nobody apart from Gollob was riding those. Surely you need a bit more skill and finesse to get around and do well at a track like cardiff for instance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Surely you need a bit more skill and finesse to get around and do well at a track like cardiff for instance? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> grasstracking skills come in handy at Cardiff there is more to 'open the throttle and go' when riding a big, fast, race track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Like what, I have never done it so would like to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone deaf Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Subedei, you have made your point about Nicholls ad nauseum. I agree he's not the best in the world & not a patch on Gollob but he's at least as good as half of the GP field & not the talentless beggar you make him out to be. Maybe he has had enough chances now but if politics/TV dictate that there will be 2 Brits in the GP, who would you replace him with? Find a Pole to do a Holta & become British overnight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 If he finishes in the top eight then great, see you next year Scotty. If not then he should not get yet another seeded nomination. Would like to think he will hang on to eighth but can't see it with Hampel, Jagus and Holta breathing down his neck. Would agree that he looked nowhere near quick enough on Saturday night. Considering he was as quick as any at Coventry last evening that smacks of a lack of preparation / professionalism / knowhow which needs to be put right for any future GP seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 One of the very few posts on this whole thread that I completely agree with Bagpuss... It's all so simple and obvious, but ya know what people are like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeccawalker Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 If he finishes in the top eight then great, see you next year Scotty. If not then he should not get yet another seeded nomination. Would like to think he will hang on to eighth but can't see it with Hampel, Jagus and Holta breathing down his neck. Would agree that he looked nowhere near quick enough on Saturday night. Considering he was as quick as any at Coventry last evening that smacks of a lack of preparation / professionalism / knowhow which needs to be put right for any future GP seasons. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree with the lack of preparation/professionalism/knowhow bit when it comes to the GPs. Surely he needs to look at the team around him and makes some drastic changes?? Maybe sack Havvy for a start and then look to replace his engine tuner with somebody who knows what they are doing perhaps?? Michael Lee maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingersfin Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 eh..........just because its the end of a grand prix and this topic is always at the top...isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty2hotty Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Great meeting from Scott tonight. Was convinced he would finish last in the final but so pleased he came second and got on the rostrum. Thought he rode with fire in his belly tonight. Just a shame Holta did so well so he stays within a few points of Scott. As much as I think I will alienate some people, I feel that even if he just misses out on automatic qualification for next year, I still believe he is worthy of another nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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