Scott Nicholls

[RPNY]

Im talking about current form, which in sport is all that matters. Also the title of this thread is implying Nicholls is back to his best form. So really, even though you are correct that he should have made more finals over the years, going on about his past under achievemnets have no releveance to this subject.

[RPNY]

I'm not saying the guy is world champion material. Im just saying that he is a very good rider, much better than yourself, Subedei etc make out.

Lets be honest the top 5 in the GP's evolves very slowly, if changing at all. Most of the guys there now have been there a few years, Hans being the exception.

It was a shame that he had to get seeded through to this years series, but if I remember rightly he missed a GP thrpugh injury last year & yes he started off badly in the 07 GP series, but I was at Lonigo, and that was one hell of a smack up he had..

Once again, I dont think he's the greatest rider in the world, but by the same token the 'too fat', 'ex British Champion', 'not worthy of GP place' remarks are over the top, on Par with the stupid remarks Hans A recieves on here. Your just mugging yourself off when the guy is obviously not doing too badly on the world stage riight now - and I repeat, not world no.1 material, but not doing too badly.

[tigerblues]

We can always hope nicholls cuts back on the pies, gets rid of his moods and starts riding like he did when at poole. But i dont think it will happen. Maybe alan should cut back on the ham he gives him.   

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Hilarious.

 

Scott Nicholls form in Sweden last night against a one-man weaker team (sorry Smederna fans):

5..S Nicholls..2,2,1,2,2',1

 

Nicholls in Poland weekend before last (the most recent Polish league meeting):

3..S Nicholls..2,2,1,1,2

 

No heat wins and only one paid second.

 

Take him away from Britain and he's not really anything special. Okay, so he's had some good form in the EL this year (Peterborough blips aside) but for me if he's at his "best form" he should be able to manage the odd win or two shouldn't he?

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So were you at these 2 meetings you mention to see how poorly he rode?

[stuart road]

i dont quite understand all the "back to form" business,personally i believe nicholls is one of the most consistant riders in speedway. i place him in the worlds top 20 but not in the worlds top 12,and his performances continually back this up.

 

does he regularly get on the rostrum at gp's. NO

does he go away to top elite clubs and score maximums NO

 

but does he score poorly,against poor teams, again NO

 

look at his scores,he consistantly beats lesser riders,but loses to the elite

[Blazeaway]

i dont quite understand all the "back to form" business,personally i believe nicholls is one of the most consistant riders in speedway. i place him in the worlds top 20 but not in the worlds top 12,and his performances continually back this up.

 

does he regularly get on the rostrum at gp's. NO

does he go away to top elite clubs and score maximums  NO

 

but does he score poorly,against poor teams, again NO

 

look at his scores,he consistantly beats lesser riders,but loses to the elite

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That sums up Scotty in a nutshell, he never wins races that you don't expect him to. Still, he bought me a beer in Poland last year so he aint all bad!!

[SPEEDY69]

look at his scores,he consistantly beats lesser riders,but loses to the elite

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Who do you consider to be "the elite" As far as I remember one example was that he beat Leigh Adams twice at Swindon earlier this year and he used to beat Crump at B Vue, regularly defeated Hancock etc, not sure about NP but as they are in the top 5 in the GPs I'm not quite sure what you are meaning. As for Schumi's example from Sweden I believe he scored a maximum the previous week, when the great NP only got 9, very poor. The point is to use these examples is ridiculous. He is one of the most entertaining riders in the GPs and I much prefer that to a gate and go merchant and would have him in my BEL team over any other rider. Not sure why certain people are so concerned with him on this forum?

[Ghostwalker]

Hilarious.

So were you at these 2 meetings you mention to see how poorly he rode?

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last night has was nothing special, in heat 10 he was beaten far and square by U19 rider Linus Eklöf who normally hardly beats other u19 riders from time to time.

 

I have seen Scott in a lot of meetings the past 5 years in Sweden and i would say last night was a quite normal night for him he was not good but not poor either.

Edited August 22, 2007 by Ghostwalker

[stuart road]

Who do you consider to be "the elite"  As far as I remember one example was that he beat Leigh Adams twice at Swindon earlier this year and he used to beat Crump at B Vue, regularly defeated Hancock etc, not sure about NP but as they are in the top 5 in the GPs I'm not quite sure what you are meaning.  As for Schumi's example from Sweden I believe he scored a maximum the previous week, when the great NP only got 9, very poor.  The point is to use these examples is ridiculous.  He is one of the most entertaining riders in the GPs and I much prefer that to a gate and go merchant and would have him in my BEL team over any other rider.  Not sure why certain people are so concerned with him on this forum?

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i am referring to consistant scores,not one offs,looking back through my s.stars.

 

13 aug h reading 15pt max

3 aug h wolverhampton 13 paid 14 (3 races against pk,wins 2 loses 1)

1 aug a reading 13 pts

6 aug a belle vue 15 pt max

30 july h poole 9pts( 3 races against andersen,3 defeats)

13 july h pboro 8 points

12 july a ipswich 14 pt paid max

9 july h poole 12 pts(3 races against crump,3 defeats)

21 june a pboro 6 pts (3 races against andersen 3 defeats)

 

i call that consistant

[Subedei]

But wasn't this the season he was going to really "step up"?

The same as last season he was going to "step up" and the season before, for that matter. But he never does, does he? And it doesn't help that he gets a charity entry to the GPs every year - it puts him in a comfort zone, where he can settle for being a mediocrity.

[colincooke]

Guys,don't get involved in arguments with this pair they're a total waste of time as i found out earlier in this thread.I've come to the conclusion that where they're concerned ignorance is most definetly BLISS,know what i mean?

[RPNY]

Stuart I would for the most part agree with you there, I think it's pretty hard to disagree with what you say..I'd put him in top 12 in the world tho! Certainly top 16.

[stuart road]

Guys,don't get involved in arguments with this pair they're a total waste of time as i found out earlier in this thread.I've come to the conclusion that where they're concerned ignorance is most definetly BLISS,know what i mean?

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which pair is this colin?

 

if ignorance is bliss,you must be drowning in the stuff.

i presume you were taught english by an early nokia(before predictive text)

try loosening the velcro on your burberry cap.

Edited August 22, 2007 by stuart road

[colincooke]

which pair is this colin?

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If that's ok i'll PM you and let you know

[Blazeaway]

If that's ok i'll PM you and let you know

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Can you let me know as well?

[SPEEDY69]

He didn't - he scored 11+2 (7)

 

He didn't - he also acored 11+2 (7)

 

 

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My mistake, it was the week before.

[RPNY]

Schumi I dont really agree with you on the arrogance / lack of spirit but again you do make some valid points. I still say he's top 10 & am quietly confident he will get an automatic GP place for next year. Though I believe that he probably thinks himself that he should be doing better than just getting an auto GP place for next year..

[tigerblues]

BUT he couldn't be bothered to qualify for the GP and that to me says it all about his attitude. He said last year if he didn't qualify he didn't deserve to be there this year, yet there he is.

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He might not deserve to be there but given an oppurtunity to ride in the GPs, which could gain him more sponsorship etc, he's hardly going to turn it down. It's down to the FIM/BSI (can't remember which..) and they decided to put him back in the series. The fact he said he didn't deserve to be there will be the reason he didn't go through the qualifiers, surely, but he got a wildcard, which he accepted (probably for the reasons I mentioned above).

 

I don't think it's down to talent, or being in the top however many you want to narrow it down to - I think it's entirely because of his nationality.

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Yes I would agree with that.

 

Personally, unless Scott finishes inside the top 8 this year, I do not think he should be given a nomination for next year, simply because if he can't do it this year, that should, IMO, be enough proof that he just can't. But, as Schumi says, it's down to nationality, whether that's right or wrong (wrong if you ask me, any rider who does not finish in the top 8 should get into the next year's series on merit, so qualifying, and if we end up with no Brits then they aren't good enough to be there obviously, but of course that's not convenient for the FIM as we have a British GP ) it's going to happen.

[colincooke]

Can you let me know as well?

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Read posts 81 to 114 & you'll know the gruesome twosome i'm talking about.

[SPEEDY69]

We've done the GP qualifying debate on here so many times. It will be interesting to see if Hampel gets a wildcard for next year as he failed to get through the qualifiers.

[stuart road]

whilst i cannot see anyway he is in the world's top twelve,i am glad to see him in the gp's,as he is entertaining,and "box office" for the sport,whether that be, battling from behind in a race,having a strop at another rider,or doing one of the sky sports employees.

 

the boy IS entertaining,and no one can dispute that