Scott Nicholls

[CB252]

Perhaps this thread should be knocked on the head now. Anyone who wants to spread anti British diatribe can do so on a 'Foreign' forum rather than the 'British Speedway' forum.

 

Maybe we could start an appreciation thread for fans of lily livered, sicknote producing, can't be arsed half of the time Swedes, Poles and Danes somewhere else on the forum?

 

The reason Scott gets seeded into the GP every year when he fails to qualify is not down to begging. It's down to the fact that he gives it 110% and entertains, despite the fact that he falls flat on his backside 99% of the time, he keeps coming back for a bit more and giving it his all.

 

If seeded GP places were handed out on effort alone there isn't a Polish rider around who would get a spot. Truly a nation of FinnJensenesque, half assed, only bothered when it suits me, free loaders if ever there was one! The sooner we kick them out of British Speedway the better.

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CB252

 

Legend

 

jaybea

[colincooke]

Perhaps this thread should be knocked on the head now.  Anyone who wants to spread anti British diatribe can do so on a 'Foreign' forum rather than the 'British Speedway' forum.

 

Maybe we could start an appreciation thread for fans of lily livered, sicknote producing, can't be arsed half of the time Swedes, Poles and Danes somewhere else on the forum?

 

The reason Scott gets seeded into the GP every year when he fails to qualify is not down to begging.  It's down to the fact that he gives it 110% and entertains, despite the fact that he falls flat on his backside 99% of the time, he keeps coming back for a bit more and giving it his all.

 

If seeded GP places were handed out on effort alone there isn't a Polish rider around who would get a spot.  Truly a nation of FinnJensenesque, half assed, only bothered when it suits me, free loaders if ever there was one!  The sooner we kick them out of British Speedway the better.

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CB252 that postingwas ab brill.much respect 2 u

[stevehone]

The reason Scott gets seeded into the GP every year when he fails to qualify is not down to begging.  It's down to the fact that he gives it 110% and entertains, despite the fact that he falls flat on his backside 99% of the time

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it's actually down to nationality

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Now Steve....Is that fact or youre opinion

 

jaybea

[stevehone]

whatever takes your fancy J

[Silver Bee]

Fact.

 

As much as I like Scott and think he should probably be in the GP's - the reason he is there is down to nationality without any doubt.

 

The same applies with Harris.

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Schumi

 

Remind me the 4 things i have got wrong please

 

jaybea

[Gemini]

Gemini: I can't quite see what you're replying to there. I said I was happy to have a reasoned discussion, I never mentioned Sub.

Sub was brought into it because you were complaining the thread was turning into a slag off Subedei one and I responded. (Not that I said anything about him in the first place because he's invisible to me and very nice it is too.)

I'm sure it's quite possible to have a reasoned discussion with you. What would you like to discuss?

[JIROUT]

Okay

 

Number 1....Scott has the same amount of points as Hampel and Jagus...Thues joint 8th....If its too hard i will buy you an abacus

 

Number 2....Yes ok fair dues asumed anything i should not have

 

Number 3....Has Jagus actually told IMG if he does not qualify he will not take a wild card....if so can you post it on here for all to see

 

Number 4...Could you produce a memo from Ole Olsen...or IMG to tell us all that Scott was picked because of his nationality...or Chris Harris even.....Do you not think they were picked because of entertainment value.....

 

jaybea

 

PS Mr Hone...I have never said Scott Nicholls is great...All i have said is that i enjoy watching him ride as he gives everything in every meeting...which i admire

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Schumi

 

This is what i mean...People put up sweeping statements with little or no truth in them at all,.....You dont know that IMG picked Nicholls because of his nationality......They may well have...But the facts are not there......Unlike others i do admit when i am wrong.....but i go on facts not suposition and the reason you are not going to answer me anymore is because you do not have the facts

 

jaybea

[stevehone]

You dont know that IMG picked Nicholls because of his nationality

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no other reason though

[Gemini]

Scott Nicholls?

Okay Scott Nicholls.

Not really one of my favourite riders but an out and out racer who always gives 100% and deserves to be in the G.P's whether in the top 8 or not as he must surely be amongst the top 16 riders who compete.

BSI (or whoever they are now) have always taken a horses for courses approach and picked a wild card/s appropriate for each country's G.P. to encourage local fans to attend. So would you be happy to just see Scott and perhaps Chris Harris as wild cards for the British G.P? Then the other G.P's could be filled with less qualified foreign riders. That should sort it.

....that we spend our time slagging off Scott elsewhere (blatantly untrue by the way).

Really? I suppose I could go around checking other forums but I do know Sub has also been going on and on about Nicholls on the Arena Essex forum, like he does on here, because I am a member. Try reading

 

http://www.faiz.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPI...874&whichpage=2

 

Sounds like some of their members are fed up with his rantings as well, but you would know that wouldn't you because you pop up again following one of his posts.

and it also seems some of you think Sube and I are a double act and don’t think independently.

Well it does seem like you always come along in pairs with your posts whenever Sub gets any criticism and I can't remember you ever being like this before.

Mind you Sub always seemed pretty nice as well when he was Bila Hora. I remember voting for him as the "best newcomer." Mmmmm.....

Edited August 15, 2007 by Gemini

[stevehone]

Then the other G.P's could be filled with less qualified foreign riders

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or qualifiers, there is a difference.

 

riders should be in the world championship on merit, not because their face fits and someone that makes the decisions finds them exciting.

 

the top 8 from the GP should qualify for the next year, after that, make the rest scrap it out and earn it.

[Authorised]

Hi Guys,

 

This topic has got well out of hand. Its a bit crazy and personal. For my money's worth. You cannot have 16 riders in the GP all with a chance of winning the title. There is only 4 or 5 MAX. Scott for me sits in the 2nd Division of GPs, great ratio of getting to semis, not always converting...you just need to get in there, and your points are massively improved.

 

I follow these world rankings...

 

http://www.przegladzuzlowy.pl/news_index.php?id=1089892799

 

The ranking is embracing all individual competitions, championships of World and Europe and scores of three strongest leagues (GB-Elite League, SWE-Elitserien, PL-Extraliga) on the end of European season.

Classification is a reflection of VALUE of the rider! No ranking is saying which competitor is 100% better – my also not!

The classification is depended on amounts of meetings in which rider participated in the LAST 24 MONTHS.

 

I am a Coventry and GB fan. I think Scott is worthy of a place in the top 16, further he has proved that with strong showings in GB, SWE and POL of late. 56+1 from last 20 rides for Coventry

 

Also, I am pleased to see him being more agressive. Why do fans seem to dislike that in Scott, but LOVE, absolutely LOVE, when Hans or Nicki (even Jason) are all elbows?? British people are far too reserved!

 

Peace out.

[Gemini]

http://www.przegladzuzlowy.pl/news_index.php?id=1089892799

Seems about right to me, but "they" will find some way of picking holes in it.

[boxer123]

or qualifiers, there is a difference.

 

riders should be in the world championship on merit, not because their face fits and someone that makes the decisions finds them exciting.

 

the top 8 from the GP should qualify for the next year, after that, make the rest scrap it out and earn it.

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Well we all know that it is a fact that at least 2 English riders will be in the GP series , so why is everyone getting so excited. Probably Nicholls and Harris are the best two English riders at the moment. But who knows even that may be disputed on this forum.

 

They may or may not both qualify in their own right this season. Personally I would not bet on it. If they dont they would perhaps up their game rather than be reliant on charity.

But of cousre as has been the norm over the past few years Nicholls will be seeded.

Edited August 15, 2007 by boxer123

[Subedei]

All this talk of a nomination for Wieslaw Jagus is something of a red herring. Wieslaw Jagus isn't going to be offered a nomination, so he won't have the option of accepting it or turning it down - that's my opinion. He's the wrong nationality. And until we know the result of the qualification final, we won't be able to make any judgement on likely nominations.

This qualification final could prove to be something of a spanner in the nomination works, I fancy. Ideal scenario for the FIM and IMG would be, I suggest, be Lindgren, Kasprzak and any one of Bjerre, Iversen and BP filling the qualification process. A clean sweep for the Danes would put a real squeeze on the scope for manoeuvre of the FIM and IMG when it comes to nominations.

It's looking a tough task for Andreas Jonsson to qualify in the top eight, but he's won a GP this season and has been solidly in the top eight for several seasons now. He's a certainty for next season. Zagar's another that looks unlikely to make it on merit and looks like being another who could be seeking a nomination. And it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Tomasz Gollob and Jaroslaw Hampel will be looking for nominations, although I suspect Gollob will call it a day if he doesn't get there on merit.

Lindgren did very well in his two outings this season and a double nomination as "wild card" surely suggests that the Swedes want Lindgren in the GPs in 2008. If it doesn't happen at Vojens, he's another in the nomination mix, together with Kasprzak.

Depending on the final configuration of the top eight and the qualifiers from Vojens, the nomination process could be very interesting indeed.

And what does the future hold for Leigh Adams and Greg Hancock? Early season suggestions that this would be Adams' last hurrah seem to have gone quiet and I'd hope that he'd hang around for at least another season. Hancock, on the other hand, started like a train but he's hit the buffers recently and may decide to call it a day.

[SpeedyGal]

Its comical watching this same group of people forever twittering on about the injustice of Nicholls being in the gp's. If you put your heads together you still couldn't work it out, could you? <img src="http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> <img src="http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Its very obvious that some of you don't even believe in what you type, you just want to stir it. I'm just glad most people don't lower themselves to join in.

Correct me if I'm wrong Schumi, but I guess you're an F1 fan? Do you think they should all qualify to compete in that too? <img src="http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

Edited January 12, 2011 by Easyrider

[SPEEDY69]

My opinion is that ALL riders should have to qualify - I don't like this nomination or wild card business at all. And it's also my opinion that it doesn't matter which nationality they are.

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I agree, which leaves Hampel vulnerable as he went throught the qualifiers but failed to get through. If he then gets seeded because he misses a couple of GPs what does that say about the qualifying system - pointless???