JIROUT Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Subedei Yet again you are wrong...Scott is joint 8th with Hampel and Jagus For someone so cock sure of yourself you get a lot of things wrong jaybea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 And yet another sensible discussion turns into a slag off Subedei thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And yet again you turn up to defend him. What about all the slag off Nicholls posts that he's made? I suppose that's okay because Scott wouldn't lower himself to reply. It must be pretty boring in the weird world of Subedei that he has to repeatedly keep stirring things up on here to get some attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Scott is joint 8th with Hampel and Jagus Yes, but Hampel has missed a round and Jaguś has blanked while injured, and still Scott can only match their totals. That's the point, in this case. What I don't get is why we're all supposed to stop supporting Scott just because he ain't done that well... Each to their own, I say...and I don't think being dictated to is really the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colincooke Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 And yet again you turn up to defend him. What about all the slag off Nicholls posts that he's made? I suppose that's okay because Scott wouldn't lower himself to reply. It must be pretty boring in the weird world of Subedei that he has to repeatedly keep stirring things up on here to get some attention. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes,isn't it strange that 1 so shallow appears 2have a fan club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Schumi See this is my problem.....I dont get this i am entitled to my opinion thing.......Scott Nicholls last year said "in my opinion if i do not qualify for the top 8 i dont not deserve a place in the GP'S".........That was Scotts opinion....but it was not BSI's opinion...Thus he was offered a place and he took it....Just like Hampel and Jagus will take it next year...but i guess that is ok because they missed a gp.....however Scott did not qualify last year because he missed a GP....however that is close to a criminal offence.......Now my opinion is you and Subedei are in fact hypocrites of the highest order jaybea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Schumi See this is my problem.....I dont get this i am entitled to my opinion thing.......Scott Nicholls last year said "in my opinion if i do not qualify for the top 8 i dont not deserve a place in the GP'S".........That was Scotts opinion....but it was not BSI's opinion...Thus he was offered a place and he took it....Just like Hampel and Jagus will take it next year...but i guess that is ok because they missed a gp.....however Scott did not qualify last year because he missed a GP....however that is close to a criminal offence.......Now my opinion is you and Subedei are in fact hypocrites of the highest order jaybea <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm certainly impressed by your foresight. You say that "Hampel and Jagus will take it next year...but I guess that's ok because they missed a GP", which seems to suggest that you know that Jagus will miss a GP and since he hasn't missed one yet, you must be able to see into the future. Should Hampel be in the GPs next season if he fails to hit the top eight? Yes, he deserves a second chance. He qualified for this season and should be allowed a second chance. Wieslaw Jagus? I think he's done okay this season and like Hampel he qualified for this season, so, yes, give him a second chance as well. Although I suspect that if he finishes outside the top eight he won't get one. How many chances has the former British champion had? Failed to qualify for 2005, failed to qualify for 2006 and failed to qualify for 2007. A long and miserable list of failure that you seem satisfied with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Blimey, not ANOTHER Scott Nicholls thread, haven't we been here before?? To settle the argument, both Nicholls and Gollob are rubbishe, and Danny Betson is a better rider than both of them combined All the best Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Best you get some Key Rings and Programme Boards done of him then :-) jaybea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Schumi .Just like Hampel and Jagus will take it next year...but i guess that is ok because they missed a gp. jaybea <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No Jagus will NOT ride in the GPs next year if he misses top 8. He has clearly stated that GP riding isnt anything for him since it will drain energy from his league riding. I think the decision has to do with his accident in Eskilstuna (swedish GP9 when he got hit by Nicki. Jagoda missed alot of league meeting becasue of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Schumi No need for me to apologise...because as i am sure you noticed my opinion is you are a hypocrite......i did not actually say it was fact now did i....and everyone surely is entitled to there opinion as the lovely Star Lady would say :-) jaybea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 How can anyone have a reasoned discussion with Subedei when he thinks anyone who sticks up for Scott is deluded? He's made his mind up we're apparently all stupid but goes on and on himself about why Scott is a beggar and other derogatory comments Then because he gets a few posts deleted he starts up his own forum where he can slag off Nicholls to his heart's content with no censorship. The point is it's boring and repetitive. We've got the message loud and clear and have done for the past 12/15 months. Look at one of his posts about Scott and it is the same as the previous hundred or so and that's just on this forum. Some of us might be deluded but his comments are boring. I know what I'd rather be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Should Hampel be in the GPs next season if he fails to hit the top eight? Yes, he deserves a second chance. He qualified for this season and should be allowed a second chance.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually Jarek finished outside of the Top 8 last year and was seeded a place for 2007. I think it's pointless discussing who might be seeded next year, when we have 4 GP's to go, as well as a GP Final that will have a major bearing on the decisions taken, right or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Actually Jarek finished outside of the Top 8 last year and was seeded a place for 2007. I think it's pointless discussing who might be seeded next year, when we have 4 GP's to go, as well as a GP Final that will have a major bearing on the decisions taken, right or wrong. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, Hans Andersen wasn't counted as being in the top eight, thus Hampel, who finished 9th was deemed to have been 8th. The seeded places went to the former British champion, BP, Lindback (God alone knows why, since he's worse than the former British champion) and Harris, who is the only one actually proving his worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Hartsock Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 (edited) How can anyone have a reasoned discussion with Subedei when he thinks anyone who sticks up for Scott is deluded? He's made his mind up we're apparently all stupid but goes on and on himself about why Scott is a beggar and other derogatory comments Then because he gets a few posts deleted he starts up his own forum where he can slag off Nicholls to his heart's content with no censorship. The point is it's boring and repetitive. We've got the message loud and clear and have done for the past 12/15 months. Look at one of his posts about Scott and it is the same as the previous hundred or so and that's just on this forum. Some of us might be deluded but his comments are boring. I know what I'd rather be. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, the voice of reason, Thanks Gemini. Edited August 14, 2007 by Sgt.Hartsock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 How can anyone have a reasoned discussion with Subedei when he thinks anyone who sticks up for Scott is deluded? He's made his mind up we're apparently all stupid but goes on and on himself about why Scott is a beggar and other derogatory comments Then because he gets a few posts deleted he starts up his own forum where he can slag off Nicholls to his heart's content with no censorship. The point is it's boring and repetitive. We've got the message loud and clear and have done for the past 12/15 months. Look at one of his posts about Scott and it is the same as the previous hundred or so and that's just on this forum. Some of us might be deluded but his comments are boring. I know what I'd rather be. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe one of the reasons Mr Sub. feels he needs to keep saying the things he does about Nicholls is that so many come on this and other forums "biging "Nicholls up. Whist I don't agree with all his opinions or many of the Nicholls lovers , I haven't read anything blatantly untrue in what hes posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Boxer A begger.....deluded...arrogant.....too fat.....no brains....no temperament.....All untrue.. jaybea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 No, Hans Andersen wasn't counted as being in the top eight, thus Hampel, who finished 9th was deemed to have been 8th. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fair play, my mistake Out of interest, does the above quote of yours not equate to "a second chance" for Hampel already ? Not that I have any issues with the guy. I just like to be entertained when I watch speedway, couldn't care less about official rankings or who's seeded or qualified. I, like others, come up with my own list of who the best 15 riders in the World are...and only once were they all in the GP series. Scott entertains me more, to use Hampel as an example for the argument, and I happily disregard history, club, nationality or potential I'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxer123 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Boxer A begger.....deluded...arrogant.....too fat.....no brains....no temperament.....All untrue.. jaybea <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What-ho , jaybea ! Well its not for me to say , appears to be his opinion. Im not here to defend him or Nicholls , just made the point that if others didnt keep talking Nicholls up , he may not feel the need to offer his opinion. I was refering to Speedway related facts , I dont go in for personal attacks on anyone. toodle pip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Sub, this vendetta is becoming unhealthy. Take a step back, I think you have been overly harsh on him in the last 18 months - IMO he's a decent rider who used to have a knack of doing something quite entertaining on a bike but sadly he's became a bit of bully who bulldozers himself around. Although his recent from has impressed me. He's a worthy addition to the GP circus - he rightly takes advantage of the system which double his income for the year. It's the system what's wrong - no need for a modern-day scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subedei Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Out of interest, does the above quote of yours not equate to "a second chance" for Hampel already ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But I fancy, young Turner, you already know the answer to that, don't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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