iris123 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 The thing was,they didn't seem to do anything about the ruts apart from go round in their tractors.Surely a bit more work than that can be done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 The thing was,they didn't seem to do anything about the ruts apart from go round in their tractors.Surely a bit more work than that can be done? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would agree with that 100%. Billy and Sam indicated that the track had a reputation for cutting up easily so the problem is a long-standing one which would appear to have been neglected for a similar length of time. It was fortunate that AJ's accident, if you can call it that, was the only one. It is the riders who put their lives at risk and it is for them to demand that action should be taken. The ultimate sanction from them would be to refuse to ride if they consider it dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) That was boring in the extreme. Track was diabolical. Nicki head and shoulders above everyone. Nicholls rode well, maybe he should consider fortnightly doses of the squits or hope his mentor rides on Saturday in the UK again, cos something worked Sky coverage was very poor IMO, Millard his usual forgetful/unknowing self, American studio duo extrememly poor, bring back Chris Louis. Sky can get things right, Georgie whoever was a brilliant frontsperson, Sara in the pits is excellent, but Sky seem to revert back to the incompetent time after time . Was I the only one totally sick of hearing about riders injuries ad nauseum. Once, fair enough but to go on an on, shows the total lack of something else to say. Also fed up with hearing that track conditions were bad. Yes they were, but fans knew that and newbies probably thought it was just an excuse for the p1ss poor action on track. *cue the Sky are the sports saviours brigade telling us we never had it so good* To answer them, that is no excuse for mediocre performances Edited July 29, 2007 by Star Lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Sky coverage was very poor IMO, Millard his usual forgetful/unknowing self, American studio duo extrememly poor, bring back Chris Louis. Sky can get things right, Georgie whoever was a brilliant frontsperson, Sara in the pits is excellent, but Sky seem to revert back to the incompetent time after time Imo Greeny's ok in the pits imo but I like Steve Brandon better, the trouble is just what can you ask the riders different, answers are always very similar and of course we hear them about 10 times a season, 4 would be more than enough Disappointed with the winner Crumpy rode well considering his injury and the rutty track, was well pleased for Scott (hope his van started this morning!). I would like to know what happened to Adams, he was soooooooo slow after he changed bikes, he must of had trouble with his first bike?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Also,what happened to the well done Nicki thread? Or are we only allowed "Boo hiss,accident waiting to happen" threads for Nicki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerblues Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) I missed about 6 heats, but on the plus side, in watching from heat 11ish onwards, I've got 3 of my friends interested in speedway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll tell you what, if you got some friends interested after that meeting then you deserve a medal! Andreas has broken his shoulder, that's what first diagnosis says. Going to Sweden now where he's gonna have an operation.. Out for coming matches then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ouch Get well soon Andreas Nicholls rode well, maybe he should consider fortnightly doses of the squits or hope his mentor rides on Saturday in the UK again <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The latter IMO Nicki P now has one hand on the trophy, he needs something to seriously cock-up in each of the remaining rounds to lose that now. Adams was disappointing, as was Hancock, and Harris is the sort of rider who won't have a chance on a track like that. Speaking of the track, just about every rider must have hit that rut, and poor Andreas Jonsson, through no fault of his own, ends up with a potentially serious injury. What a farce, get it sorted Scott Nicholls, as Star Lady said, something worked for him tonight, to make the final was brilliant IMO, and that has put him back in the mix to get into that top 8. I think he must know now he needs to get in the top 8 to get back in next year. After a disappointing first race I just thought oh here we go again, but turned out to be a good meeting for him. On the whole, I think the meeting was dull and boring and with any luck we'll never see a track prepared like that again in a GP. Fair enough there was some heavy rain before and during the meeting but where was the effort to sort the ruts?! Edit - forgot to add.. when it was Cardiff a few weeks back, the biggest cheer of the night from our living room came when Bomber went over the finish line ahead of Hancock in the final. Last night, it was when Millard said "the man from Mildura". Never disappoints, our Millard Edited July 29, 2007 by tigerblues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I thought that was one of the worst GP's ever, the track was an absoloute disgrace, who ever prepared should be sacked. I dont think I saw one passing move in the first 12 heats other than a mistake because of the ruts. If Olsen thinks that sort of track is what is required he wants sacking. Truly dreadful <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it is pretty difficult to turn what has been a consistent performer of a track down the years into one that rutted, had a deceiving top surface and had little grip in the right places....... no track should rut after 4 heats (even temporary!) and bend 4 quite frankly was dangerous I am guessing that Ole Olsen was responsible and it is high time that he carried the can for some of these awful tracks ......... they are a bad advert for the sport and unsubtley usually suit the danes The only thing that was got right last night was a good spread across the gates ..... but even then there were only 2 gates that were working at any given time (nicki p excepted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lis Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Also,what happened to the well done Nicki thread? Or are we only allowed "Boo hiss,accident waiting to happen" threads for Nicki? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was wondering about that myself this morning,why was it removed???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I am guessing that Ole Olsen was responsible and it is high time that he carried the can for some of these awful tracks ......... they are a bad advert for the sport and unsubtley usually suit the danes The only thing that was got right last night was a good spread across the gates ..... but even then there were only 2 gates that were working at any given time (nicki p excepted) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does anyone know how much Olsen has to do with the track preparation? The Speedway Star Cardiff preview had a lengthy article on Colin Meredith and his prep of the Cardiff track with no mention of Ole and I remember when the Swedish GP had to be abandoned a few years ago it was the local track guys who took the rap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex bulldog Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 bring back Chris Louis. Sky can get things right, Georgie whoever was a brilliant frontsperson, Sara in the pits is excellent, but Sky seem to revert back to the incompetent time after time . Chris was far too busy showing us how to ride Arlington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Poor GP, track looked to have plenty of dirt on it so thought the racing would get better once the dirt moved out but unfortunatly it didn't. Pedersen in a class of his own, championship is his now unless he gets a serious injury. Did any one notice Crump lent Nicholls a new back wheel for this final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Addison Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 To be totally honest i couldn't care less WHO won the meeting because it was THAT BAD. By about Heat 10 i was just wishing it would end. I couldn't even get bothered by the fact we had a Brit in the final. I think there should be serious questions asked by the authorities why we had such a diabolical track which no mistake about it caused the broken shoulder to Andreas Jonsson. I would go so far as to say they shouldnt even have a GP at Prague next year. To the Nicki Pedersen fans like Iris asking why we are not saying ' well done !!! ' enough, well i think plenty of people are, BUT it also goes to show that some people will put up with any crock of $*!t as long as their man wins. Sorry thats not speedway for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 To be totally honest i couldn't care less WHO won the meeting because it was THAT BAD. By about Heat 10 i was just wishing it would end. I couldn't even get bothered by the fact we had a Brit in the final. I think there should be serious questions asked by the authorities why we had such a diabolical track which no mistake about it caused the broken shoulder to Andreas Jonsson. I would go so far as to say they shouldnt even have a GP at Prague next year. To the Nicki Pedersen fans like Iris asking why we are not saying ' well done !!! ' enough, well i think plenty of people are, BUT it also goes to show that some people will put up with any crock of $*!t as long as their man wins. Sorry thats not speedway for me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No,got it all wrong.I saw a thread here last night congratulating Nicki.Just wondered what happened to it And although i was happy Nicki won,i was as critical of the track as the next man or woman if you see my posts.Wondering why nothing other than a tractor going round shifting the loose material,was done to the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I think there should be serious questions asked by the authorities why we had such a diabolical track which no mistake about it caused the broken shoulder to Andreas Jonsson. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No the track didn't cause Jonsson to break his shoulder. It had a small part in it but did you see any other riders crash last night? The reason Josson crashed was partly because of the track but mainly due to his bike setup and his shoulder not being strong enough to control the bike. Thats 3 big crashes he's had similar to that this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Addison Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) No,got it all wrong.I saw a thread here last night congratulating Nicki.Just wondered what happened to it And although i was happy Nicki won,i was as critical of the track as the next man or woman if you see my posts.Wondering why nothing other than a tractor going round shifting the loose material,was done to the track <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok sorry Iris i didnt know you meant about the other thread, my bad ! Rob sorry i have to disagree,if there hadnt been deep ruts he wouldn't have crashed. In the interview his mechanic almost said the track was a disgrace but held back from it. Theres plenty of people on here doing that now anyway. Now people will say ' his bike is set up too stiff ' because they heard Billy and Sam say it, but the fact is that track played a MASSIVE part in his crash. I just cant abide watching speedway trying to be played out on tracks that have no right to be called race tracks. Edited July 29, 2007 by Philip Addison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish t Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Ok sorry Iris i didnt know you meant about the other thread, my bad ! Rob sorry i have to disagree,if there hadnt been deep ruts he wouldn't have crashed. In the interview his mechanic almost said the track was a disgrace but held back from it. Theres plenty of people on here doing that now anyway. Now people will say ' his bike is set up too stiff ' because they heard Billy and Sam say it, but the fact is that track played a MASSIVE part in his crash. I just cant abide watching speedway trying to be played out on tracks that have no right to be called race tracks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezza Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Just got back from Prague on the morning Easyjet flight to Stansted. Suffice to say, that will probably be the last trip to Prague for me. Someone mentioned it in an earlier thread, it would appear that the Prague round has generally got a bit stale and whilst Prague itself is a beautiful city, my main priority and reason for going is the speedway. An absolute deluge of rain came down at 4.30 which thankfully only lasted for about half an hour. Whether or not this had an effect on the track or not, I do not know, but the track was an absolute disgrace to the sport. You could really see how tentative the guys were going into each the bends as they picked there way through what seemed to a minefield of ruts. but hey!, hats off to Nicki anyone who can win 7 in a row on that track deserves a lot of credit and looks a worthy champion this year taking into account overall league and GP form. Bezza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Jasper Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 I have often thought that Nicholls could have a better choice of mentor..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Does anyone know how much Olsen has to do with the track preparation? The Speedway Star Cardiff preview had a lengthy article on Colin Meredith and his prep of the Cardiff track with no mention of Ole and I remember when the Swedish GP had to be abandoned a few years ago it was the local track guys who took the rap. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ole is the race director is he not? Lets not pretend that the guy is not in charge of the track preps............. if he chooses to delegate that is up to him but he is still ultimately in charge...... now that you mention it...the question of the swedish debacle should be why did the local guys take the rap when they were working for Ole? Speedway fans will always have to take the rough with the smooth while limited funds are in the coffers of the organisers........... Cardiff was a very pleasant suprise..... but there have been far too many cases of needless slick tracks and bad prep in recent years and questions should be asked or it will carry on..... especially after the track last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 It just proves you dont need all the top guys to have entertaining speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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