binthere Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 You should talk to Iris' Peter S. What is there to lose? Ignore all the pessimism about local authorities in the U.K. being unapproachable in comparison to their counterparts in Denmark. If you do not try then you will never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick cast Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Some tracks have no option for training, and quite often have only time to prepare a track just before a meeting . then shut down early, in case they lose there license. There are training tracks out there, Iwade(sittingbourne) and Eastbourne have there small track, Lots of good riders have come from there, Ed Kennett and Louis Bridger being only the latest to emerge from there. To me talent will come through, no matter how easy or how much money or resources is thrown at it. Tennis gets millions from the Wimbledon championship profits, and the FA put millions into there academy, and the lottery gives loads of dosh to athletes. I dont see any heroes or winners on a regular basis coming through Yes you will get the occasional winner come out of the pack, Henman, Murray in tennis, but they would have come through anyway. I dont think I know any Footballers who came through the Academy, Oh maybe Beckham? Don't get me wrong I think speedway should help youngsters to get started in the sport,but I don't feel that you can buy talent, after all they can train monkeys to do tricks. World beaters will emerge and succeed despite formal help, and maybe if given to much help they could be made worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackman Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Any UK rider wanting to up their performance, has always spent winter in OZ. Regards. PS. Edited July 8, 2007 by Trackman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdong Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 ive been trying to get help for someone to get into speedway as you may know but the only close tracxks are eastbourne and sittingbourne and there an hours journey in the car further more i dont currently drive so it would be hard to get there. actually does anyone know any public transport from hertfordshire to sittingbourne or eastbourne. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeside Shrimper Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 It should be noted aswell that if the speedway club in question owned their own facility, or the freeholder were keen on the idea, then creating a training track next to the existing facility could generate much needed supplementary income for said club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hamilton Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I really do think that we need a bit of 'protectionism' in our sport if we wish to start producing a future British World Champion. We can see it in every meeting these days in the UK, hiow many British riders are in a team? Hardly any. I would like to see every team, whether Elite or Premier, having a minimum of 3 Brits, it is the only way to encourage and groom our own into future Champions! It also will mean that there will be plenty of top riders to share around the Clubs. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I would like to see every team, whether Elite or Premier, having a minimum of 3 Brits, it is the only way to encourage and groom our own into future Champions! Brian <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This problem was faced in the 70's, British speedway had a season without foreign riders. It didn't IMO, alter the quality of the racing, but there was a strong 2nd division with British and commonwealth riders who filled the gaps in teams.this is no longer the case as all teams are now dependant on foreign riders.(catch 22) Because of ECU regulations it would be difficult to enforce a limit of riders as they will complain about restricted practises. The other problem will be promoters saying one thing doing another,they all want to win.It would need someone with real control to make it work (BSPA IMO not) The best way is to encourage promoters to run junior teams,run in the interval, so the assets they gain remain with the promotion.If you don't produce your own you buy others.When there is a larger base of riders to select from then you can reduce the oversea's riders. IMO there are not enough British riders to remove anyone from the league setup without effectingl the quality,but promoters must be encouraged to train prospects as none will do so on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 A long shot here. Perhaps speedway should put the case to the relevant authorities about giving a facility for younsters, to take them off the street. Being trained properly in any sporting discipline is far better than leaving them to their own devices, is there a council out there who would be prepared to listen to a well prepared and structured proposition? I am sure not all councils are totally anti motorcycling, especially if responsible training and education was involved. Sabres <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This has happened in Scunthorpe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 This problem was faced in the 70's, British speedway had a season without foreign riders. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Unless this happened before I started going, I can only assume that you mean 1974 here, in which case there wasn't a ban on foreign riders competing in Britain. It was a ban on commuting Swedes - ie Swedish riders who were choosing to compete in Sweden as well at the cost of their British clubs. Even then there were still some Swedes, such as Soren Sjosten, who still rode in the British League. There were still plenty of foreign riders in the British League that season (Dag Lovaas, Ole Olsen and Ed Stangeland come immediately to mind), but there was also a much higher standard of British rider around at the time and a lot more British riders in the sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Know Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 The training on offer in this country is terrible. I recommend all non english riders be banned from the uk for two years and compulsery training days at all british tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolan Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 scunthorpe is 198 miles away from newcastle "not certain but in that region of miles" that puts riders off from north england and Scotland, Workington doesnt offer the services Scunthorpe does. Redcar would be the best place to make a training track with more land, is this right? I think its time promoters up north pulled there finger out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 scunthorpe is 198 miles away from newcastle "not certain but in that region of miles" that puts riders off from north england and Scotland, Workington doesnt offer the services Scunthorpe does. Redcar would be the best place to make a training track with more land, is this right? I think its time promoters up north pulled there finger out. erm.... I live in northampton so it has always been a trek to get to a training track. I was put off second halves by being told I was too old. Not exactly welcoming. Thats the whole reason I became happy with the Amateur scene at Scunny - long may it live, they all do a super job and encourage!!!!! I think thats what is needed, any Brit willing to have a go - regardless of age - should get encouragement. Not everyone will be a world beater, 2nd strings and reserves are needed too are they not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 erm.... I live in northampton so it has always been a trek to get to a training track. I was put off second halves by being told I was too old. Not exactly welcoming. Thats the whole reason I became happy with the Amateur scene at Scunny - long may it live, they all do a super job and encourage!!!!! I think thats what is needed, any Brit willing to have a go - regardless of age - should get encouragement. Not everyone will be a world beater, 2nd strings and reserves are needed too are they not. I thought you had emigrated to the usa snapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper-racing.co.uk Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I thought you had emigrated to the usa snapper the boat leaves in 2 weeks time - I have to get my 3rd Place Amateur Trophy first, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff. Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 scunthorpe is 198 miles away from newcastle "not certain but in that region of miles" that puts riders off from north england and Scotland, Workington doesnt offer the services Scunthorpe does. Redcar would be the best place to make a training track with more land, is this right? I think its time promoters up north pulled there finger out. Its about 140, nowhere near 198 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolan Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Jeff mate jog on still a long way to go. and tbh your sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Transport, location, cost, lack of equipment, etc are major obstacles, pun not particularly intended, but the most important thing is ride when and where you can and to enjoy it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff. Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Jeff mate jog on still a long way to go. and tbh your sad Really, you posted you were not certain of a mileage, I informed you of the correct mileage and that makes me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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