Gaz W Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Having read the post about New Zealand riders riding over here, and being surprised at how many there were, I wondered if there are many countries that have had just one rider ride over here? For example was Rene Aas the only Estonian to ride in the British leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Having read the post about New Zealand riders riding over here, and being surprised at how many there were, I wondered if there are many countries that have had just one rider ride over here? For example was Rene Aas the only Estonian to ride in the British leagues? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What about that fella called, I think, Marshall Pugh who came from Majorca. There was a burdgeoning scene on the sunshine holiday isle in the early '70s (whatever came of the track(s)!!??) and Johnnie Hoskins had Pugh over riding a few times at Kingsmead.. I suppose he was Spanish, was he..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 There was Jimmy Ogisu????? a Japanese rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBBATH Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 I remember the Jimmy Ogisu story in mid sixties-but wasn't it just a stunt?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackman Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I remember the Jimmy Ogisu story in mid sixties-but wasn't it just a stunt?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> G/Day BB Jimmy rode in OZ at Liverpool Speedway in the 60"s........ Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I remember the Jimmy Ogisu story in mid sixties-but wasn't it just a stunt?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe it was, but other than riding in Oz, he actually rode in the 1970 Wills Internationale at Wimbledon. He was obviously a little outclassed, but he scored a point when Reg Luckhurst packed up. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 (edited) Whether you're talking league or not, there must be very, very few, who have had only one. I don't believe Marshall Pugh was actually Spanish. However, there were a number of Spanish riders who rode in England in 1930, including "Angel Arche" and the Poto brothers. We've had a couple of Frenchmen, several Austrians, a few Irish., and even a couple of Argentinians. For some reason though, I seem to recall something about a rider from Papua New Guinea, but I really can't come up with any more detail. Steve Edited June 29, 2007 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star ghost Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 How about Mr Lindback from Brazil or Graham Warren from Fiji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hamilton Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 How about Mr Lindback from Brazil or Graham Warren from Fiji? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or Ronnie Moore from Tasmania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Maybe stretching it a bit but....how about Mark Loram.....Malta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Or Ronnie Moore from Tasmania <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry, but Tasmania is not a country, but an Australian state. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 How about Mr Lindback from Brazil or Graham Warren from Fiji? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If they were were never classed as Brazilian or Fijian, I don't think that should count. The same for Mark Loram. Simply being born somewhere else, but never having adopted that nationality, doesn't cut it. Having said that, I don't know the full story about Antonio Lindback; is he actually Brazilian? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Sorry, but Tasmania is not a country, but an Australian state. Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So why did he represent new zealand.???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 So why did he represent new zealand.???? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because, although he was born in Hobart, Tasmania (Australia), his family moved to New Zealand when Ronnie was in his early teens and he became a naturalised Kiwi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Because, although he was born in Hobart, Tasmania (Australia), his family moved to New Zealand when Ronnie was in his early teens and he became a naturalised Kiwi. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Having said that, he did actually represent Australia in international competition, including one or two of his early World Finals. Of course, there have been some other riders who have done the same thing, such as Mitch Shirra and Tadeusz Teodorowicz. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Donsking Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Having said that, he did actually represent Australia in international competition, including one or two of his early World Finals. Of course, there have been some other riders who have done the same thing, such as Mitch Shirra and Tadeusz Teodorowicz. Steve <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably just a case of Mirac representing whoever was the 'flavour of the month' or an effort to include Australasian riders (as opposed to Australian) for the good of the sport; I read somewhere that Ronnie's Mum reckoned he always thought of himself as Kiwi, but he was happy to wear the Australian race jacket if it drew a crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Probably just a case of Mirac representing whoever was the 'flavour of the month' or an effort to include Australasian riders (as opposed to Australian) for the good of the sport; I read somewhere that Ronnie's Mum reckoned he always thought of himself as Kiwi, but he was happy to wear the Australian race jacket if it drew a crowd. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know he was in the Australian team for the test at Plough Lane in 1950, but we had a discussion about this a few months ago on a different forum. I can't remember which year it was (either 51 or 52), and even though he was apparently representing New Zealand by then (or so we think), I have an Australian team photo with him in it! Unfortunately, I don't think even Ronnie himself is sure of when he switched. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkox Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Having said that, he did actually represent Australia in international competition, including one or two of his early World Finals. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think he even represented Great Britain in international competion along with Ivan Mauger and Barry Briggs! What about Sandor Levai - Hungarian . . . steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Ronnie Moore rode for Australia in Test matches in 1950,51,52 and 53. He then switched to New Zealand and also rode for them in 1953. In 1954 the two countries were combined anyway to form an Australasian team and he rode for that from 1954 to 1960. He turned out again for New Zealand in 1969,70 and 72 and rode for Great Britain in 1969,70 and 71. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Bird Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 gerhard uhlenbrock an east german rode for coventry in 1973.don;t know how he got here,but must be the only rider from the other side of the old berlin wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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