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I did mention the attendances looked low for some of the Elitserien meetings before.Think it was only after the first 2 or 3 rounds though,so it was too early for any of our Swedish Members to really make a judgement.But have today seen the figures for some of the Clubs and there looks to be some concern

 

Masarnas average

2001: 4512

2002: 4377

2003: 3860

2004: 3363

2005: 4742

2006: 2596

2007: 1501 ! :o

 

Other clubs

Indianerna 1264

Dackarna 1600

Smederna 1640

 

I know Tarabanko said this figure is above the break even figure for Smederna.But it does seem the trend for attendances to be dropping continues,at least at Masarna.Any informed opinions or maybe reasons given in the Swedish media?Are these figures reaching crisis point?

 

Swedish article on Masarna Crisis

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Crisis??

 

For Smederna it is looking good for once.

The expensive riders have left Smederna one after one.

For this year Smederna has building the team around the attendance figures last year and so far the attendance has been ok and then Smederna has a cheaper team than last year. It is better to survive than not.

 

Masarna has counted on 2300 people at every match to break even but the attendance has been poor, just around 1600 per match.. So they are making heavy losses.

But the chairman in Masarna says it is no worry on the economical side. Masarnas chairman says that the sponsors are pushing in money in Masarna so there is no problem.

 

Västervik, expensive team bad attendances. Dont know how the economical side is there but I suspect it isnt the best.

 

Kaparna

Are loosing money big time. In 2005 they had a attendance of about 1400 each match at home and now the attfigure is lower counting on the matches they have raced and not to be forgiven are that Kaparna has had a team a couple of times beneath the teaam average and has been handed with fines for it in access of around 200.000 Swedish Crownes total.

 

Rospiggarna

I know that they had problems with money for a time ago but how it is this year I dont have a clue.

 

Bajen

A very expensive team, heavy losses in the two past years and their boss Hans Nelen has ploughed down more than 2 million swedish crowns to clear rider debts, but the debt is still there for Bajen to pay to Hans. I belive the actual attendance is not paying for the expensivest team? in Elitserien.

 

Dackarna

One of the clubs that are showing up a good capital of around 1.8 millions if I remember right.

 

Elit Vetlanda

Another club from Småland that are going good on the economical side.

Don know the actual sum though.

 

Indianerna

It is quiet from the Indians. They has had debts dont know how it is today.

 

 

Piraterna

A club with mystery economical side. No news about their situation at all.

 

In general the attendance is down on the golden years except Dackarna and Elit Vetlanda.

 

 

/ Mikael

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Thanks for that Tarabanko.Good that the Blacksmiths are not in trouble financially,but with on track performances they must be thinking about changing the team around a bit :unsure:

 

And i thought you asked and were told where to find the results just a couple of weeks back Pollyanna! :blink:

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And i thought you asked and were told where to find the results just a couple of weeks back Pollyanna! :blink:

You're such a grouch in the mornings. :rolleyes::P

 

Have you any results from the matches Tuesday, June 12 please, tarabanko?

Elitserien League Pollyanna:

 

Dackarna/Piraterna

Hammarby/Smederna

Indianerna/Kaparna

Rospiggarna/Vastervik

MasarnaAvesta/Elit Vetlanda

 

All from here.

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I did mention the attendances looked low for some of the Elitserien meetings before.Think it was only after the first 2 or 3 rounds though,so it was too early for any of our Swedish Members to really make a judgement.But have today seen the figures for some of the Clubs and there looks to be some concern

 

 

Other clubs

Indianerna 1264

Dackarna 1600

Smederna 1640

 

I know Tarabanko said this figure is above the break even figure for Smederna.But it does seem the trend for attendances to be dropping continues,at least at Masarna.Any informed opinions or maybe reasons given in the Swedish media?Are these figures reaching crisis point?

 

Swedish article on Masarna Crisis

 

Well i dont know where you got those averages from since they are not correct.

if you want to know the attendances for each meeting then take a look at this:

 

http://www.speedway.nu/2007/publik.asp?Elit

 

Averages:

 

Dackarna: 4516

Elit Vetlanda: 4129

Västervik : 3103

Hammarby: 2524

Smederna: 2519

Piraterna: 2464

Indianerna: 2463

Rospiggarna: 2262

Masarna: 1578

kaparna: 1362

 

the total average for the the Elitserien is 2567.

 

some teams have had 4 home meetings so far while others only have had 3.

 

The highest attendance so far during a league meeting from the 2001 season and onwards is 8353 which was at Smedernas home meeting against Masarna in the 2003 season.

 

You're such a grouch in the mornings. :rolleyes:  :P

Allsvenskan League Pollyanna:

 

Dackarna/Piraterna

Hammarby/Smederna

Indianerna/Kaparna

Rospiggarna/Vastervik

MasarnaAvesta/Elit Vetlanda

 

All from here.

 

actually this is Elitserien (elitleague) and not allsvenskan.

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I did mention the attendances looked low for some of the Elitserien meetings before.Think it was only after the first 2 or 3 rounds though,so it was too early for any of our Swedish Members to really make a judgement.But have today seen the figures for some of the Clubs and there looks to be some concern

 

Masarnas average

2001: 4512

2002: 4377

2003: 3860

2004: 3363

2005: 4742

2006: 2596

2007: 1501 ! :o

 

Other clubs

Indianerna 1264

Dackarna 1600

Smederna 1640

 

I know Tarabanko said this figure is above the break even figure for Smederna.But it does seem the trend for attendances to be dropping continues,at least at Masarna.Any informed opinions or maybe reasons given in the Swedish media?Are these figures reaching crisis point?

 

Swedish article on Masarna Crisis

 

2001,2002, 2005 high attendances and a Swedish World Champion, other years no World Champion poor attendances, this year no Rickardsson extremely poor attendances

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Thanks for that Tarabanko.Good that the Blacksmiths are not in trouble financially,but with on track performances they must be thinking about changing the team around a bit :unsure:

 

 

Shhh.... :P:P

Andre Compton has done his last match, they gave him a rowboat so he can row home to England so he will not be home for some time. :P

 

Morten Risager are hanging loose I think...

 

Smederna has signed Robert Miskowiak and he will replace Morten on the reserveberth and likely so will Stefan 'Ando' Andersson sign for Smederna and he will take Comptons place.

 

Smedernas team will likely look like this next week:

 

1. Krzystof Kaszprzak

2. Krzystof Buczkowski

3. Rory Schlein

4. Stefan Andersson

5. Wieslaw Jagus

6. Robert Miskowiak

7. Linus Eklöf

8. Robert Henderson

 

On the reserve bench then are:

 

Mariusz Puszakowski

Morten Risager

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Andre Compton has done his last match, they gave him a rowboat so he can row home to England so he will not be home for some time.  :P

 

Morten Risager are hanging loose I think...

 

Smederna has signed Robert Miskowiak and he will replace Morten on the reserveberth and likely so will Stefan 'Ando' Andersson sign for Smederna and he will take Comptons place.

 

Smedernas team will likely look like this next week:

 

1. Krzystof Kaszprzak

2. Krzystof Buczkowski

3. Rory Schlein

4. Stefan Andersson

5. Wieslaw Jagus

6. Robert Miskowiak

7. Linus Eklöf

8. Robert Henderson

 

On the reserve bench then are:

 

Mariusz Puszakowski

Morten Risager

 

 

Yes and Eric Andersson will most likely be put in Smedernas Allsvenska team, Team Bikab since we can still use him in Smederna as long as his average is below 5.00. Rory will be the Team Captain. or actually i think he already is the new Captain.

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2001,2002, 2005 high attendances and a Swedish World Champion, other years no World Champion poor attendances, this year no Rickardsson extremely poor attendances

 

Well it's actually not worse than last year so far.

 

2006 = 2602/match

2007 = 2657/match

 

As for Hammarby we have about 500 spectators more/match this year so far compared to last year which is positive. And ofcourse it doesn't cover the cost of the team, but no one expects it to either. You can't run a club on gates alone. Since Hans Nelén is the man who dreamed up some of the fattest rider-contracts he might aswell pay for them :P

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You're such a grouch in the mornings.

:D

Not just in the mornings.But if someone asks a question and got at least 2 choices of site to look at,well...........

 

Shhh.... 

Andre Compton has done his last match, they gave him a rowboat so he can row home to England so he will not be home for some time. 

:D

I like it!

Morten Risager are hanging loose I think...

 

Smederna has signed Robert Miskowiak and he will replace Morten on the reserveberth and likely so will Stefan 'Ando' Andersson sign for Smederna and he will take Comptons place.

 

Smedernas team will likely look like this next week:

 

1. Krzystof Kaszprzak

2. Krzystof Buczkowski

3. Rory Schlein

4. Stefan Andersson

5. Wieslaw Jagus

6. Robert Miskowiak

7. Linus Eklöf

8. Robert Henderson

 

On the reserve bench then are:

 

Mariusz Puszakowski

Morten Risager

Yes,that is better.And of course the injuries to Buczkowski and Jagus haven't helped.But some of the riders are not really performing to the standard you should expect.When i looked i think Smederna only had maybe 2 riders in the top 30 in the average list.

 

Well it's actually not worse than last year so far.

 

2006 = 2602/match

2007 = 2657/match

 

As for Hammarby we have about 500 spectators more/match this year so far compared to last year which is positive. And ofcourse it doesn't cover the cost of the team, but no one expects it to either. You can't run a club on gates alone. Since Hans Nelén is the man who dreamed up some of the fattest rider-contracts he might aswell pay for them

Should never trust the media then i guess.Glad it isn't anywhere near as bad(if in fact it is at all bad)as they are making out.When i saw those figures yesterday i wondered if they had put the entrance prices up 50% or something :D

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When i saw those figures yesterday i wondered if they had put the entrance prices up 50% or something :D

 

Last year I went to see Kumla vs Piraterna and it was 150 kr to get in. This year the U21 qualifier at Motala was only 50 kr. Think its all very reasonable.

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Last year I went to see Kumla vs Piraterna and it was 150 kr to get in. This year the U21 qualifier at Motala was only 50 kr. Think its all very reasonable.

Well i did see the price for the U21 was good,because i was looking at maybe going to malmö the same day and i am sure the price for that meeting was the same price or similar.And the Malmö meeting was a very junior,regional meeting.

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Should never trust the media then i guess.Glad it isn't anywhere near as bad(if in fact it is at all bad)as they are making out.When i saw those figures yesterday i wondered if they had put the entrance prices up 50% or something :D

 

Kaparna's lack of a home track and rather poor attendances on their tour of "home matches" away from home has brought down the average for Elitserien this year aswell as Masarnas continuing loss of crowds. Otherwise it's pretty much the same as usual. Not really a crisis, except maybe in Avesta, where I believe they only charge 100 skr which is probably the least expensive in the Elitserien. So I don't think the issue lies with the cost of going.

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Kaparna's lack of a home track and rather poor attendances on their tour of "home matches" away from home has brought down the average for Elitserien this year aswell as Masarnas continuing loss of crowds. Otherwise it's pretty much the same as usual. Not really a crisis, except maybe in Avesta, where I believe they only charge 100 skr which is probably the least expensive in the Elitserien. So I don't think the issue lies with the cost of going.

 

Isn't Avesta a very small village? Maybe people dont travel so easily to see the team now that TRick is gone. Avesta even sponsored TRick so he'd stay and ride for Masarna...

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