spin king Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 First off I am no JC, hater, and I have always supported him, and don't want to crictise on this matter. The only thing I would say that if Sheffield cannot stage it I would have like to have seen it run somewhere else. At the moment nobody knows exactly why it has been moved, we are all guessing that it is air fence, which I think it probably the real reason. As a Sheffield fan we look forward to the showpiece meetings, and to see all the top Elite stars roaring around Sheffield is a real sickner. What ever the real reason, someone is to blame, was it JC who failed to Neil Machin about the air fence, is Neil Machin to blame for knowing that he needs an airfence, but just ignoring it, or is the Man in the Moon. I don't care someone is to blame, and I want to at least say that they are sorry for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) they're not run by the chipmunks! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> [/b] Exactly! Jonathan Chapman, organiser of the Super7even series and co=promoter of Kings Lynn. ELRC moved to .......Kings Lynn! Nothing in the north of England then!! Easier for me to get to Sheffield than the outlandish Kings Lynn from Bournemouth. Shan't be going to this then. Edited June 8, 2007 by Pollyanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Dissapointed as owlerton is for the worlds best, wonder the reasons behind this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually last time ELRC was at Sheffield, was terrible racing until the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 As has been hinted previously, the northern clubs now have a long way to travel to watch the event which has conveniently found itself moved to JCs. I have no gripes about the KL track it must be said. (Although all the PL teams seem to have problems with riding it! ) My problem is that the JC show has now held all the super 7even events down south. meaning a rediculous amount of travelling costs for Glasgow, Edinburgh, Berwick, Newcastle, Redcar and Workington fans. And to a lesser extent, Sheffield, Stoke and Belle Vue. On top of these there are also the northern CL teams. To me that is a lot of fans not being catered for!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Think you do need to look at the bigger picture though. Considering they decided to hold the majority of the meetings on neutral venues, it was always going to be case. With only Belle Vue being a northern club in the EL, would a neutral venue such as Glasgow, Newcastle or Redcar generate a big enough crowd? It's a long way to go from Poole (who regularly have the biggest crowds in the whole country! ). It's a shame it got changed at all, as Sheffield can be a cracking racetrack on its day, but which other tracks would have been available on the Thursday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 If whatever reason Sheffield cant hold the ELRC, then what better track to take to than Kings Lynn. Its regarded by all the top boys as one of the fairest and most raceable there is, so what the big problem ? Also these events are BSPA so all the profits go there and are then re-distriburted out to all the clubs. So find something worth moaning about guys, and lets hope it s a big success for all our clubs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Notice that you live in Norwich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Actually last time ELRC was at Sheffield, was terrible racing until the final. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And didn't Mark Loram have a bad crash that night, going into the start gate or was that something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 And didn't Mark Loram have a bad crash that night, going into the start gate or was that something else. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No that was the World Team CUP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 let's get one thing straight.Let’s get one thing straight. He must have made some sort of promise to be allowed to host the fixture IF the air fence is the reason. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> that is EXACTLY the point..he was NEVER asked to supply an air fence and signed the agreement to host the event with the words AIR and FENCE not mentioned at all! the last time sheffield hosted the event there there was no air fence so why should mr machin suddenly think he's got to provide one when it hasn't been mentioned anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Notice that you live in Norwich. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well done Sherlock, no flies on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 that is EXACTLY the point..he was NEVER asked to supply an air fence and signed the agreement to host the event with the words AIR and FENCE not mentioned at all! the last time sheffield hosted the event there there was no air fence so why should mr machin suddenly think he's got to provide one when it hasn't been mentioned anywhere? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The regulations state that air fences are a must for all Elite League meetings and Mr Machin can't be that stupid of a man to not realise that he needed an air fence, come on, for christ sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) Exactly! Jonathan Chapman, organiser of the Super7even series and co=promoter of Kings Lynn. ELRC moved to .......Kings Lynn! Nothing in the north of England then!! Easier for me to get to Sheffield than the outlandish Kings Lynn from Bournemouth. Shan't be going to this then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> According to AA routemaps Sheffield is 237 miles from Poole and takes 4hrs 6mins, while Kings Lynn is 208 miles and 4 hours 3mins! A more peaceful, scenic journey to Lynn too. A long journey to both venues granted, but maybe not as bad as you thought? Edited June 8, 2007 by London Witch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 According to AA routemaps Sheffield is 237 miles from Poole and takes 4hrs 6mins, while Kings Lynn is 208 miles and 4 hours 3mins! A more peaceful, scenic journey to Lynn too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and what can one do in 3 minutes ?.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 and what can one do in 3 minutes ?.......... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll ask my Mrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Plenty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcrust Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Nothing in the north of England then!! Easier for me to get to Sheffield than the outlandish Kings Lynn from Bournemouth. Shan't be going to this then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your loss, no-one elses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmisstiger Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 i must admit im one of the dispointed fans who will now not be attending the meeting!! how is it fair kings lynn gets 2 out of the 7 meetings!! sheffield being pretty central it would have fetched in a hell of a lot more fans than kings lynn which is at least 3 hours from in sheffield cant see many scottish fans travelling down!!! an absolute disgrace!! also seans testimonial- no airfence- did the riders complain????? world cup a few years ago!! obviously i might be being biased as i live in sheffield but from my point of view its an utter waste of good facilities AND "the fastest track in british speedway" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Nothing in the north of England then!! Easier for me to get to Sheffield than the outlandish Kings Lynn from Bournemouth. Shan't be going to this then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so what would you say to Ipswich, Kings Lynn, Peterborough, Mildenhall fans that might say they won't be going to Poole as you can't get much farther south? or supporters from Edinburgh, Belle Vue, Glasgow, Berwick etc that really fancied going to see the ELRC last year. basically, you're not going to please everyone ... people in the north will moan if it's in the south, people in the south will moan if it's in the north. the best thing to do is have it in the midlands and on a neutral track. so who would that be? Birmingham? anyone else? i believe Birmingham were earmarked for one of the Super7 events this year, no idea why it changed ... was it because of some rule that says a new track can't host one of the showpiece meetings in their first year? i don't know for sure, but i remember seeing their name down originally. if that's the case, then it couldn't have been there. which leaves ... erm ... where? i was going to Sheffield anyway for the meeting .. ok, it's not so far for me to go now, but i would have been there anyway. if it was at Poole, i wouldn't have gone ... far too outlandish getting there from near Kings Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 i must admit im one of the dispointed fans who will now not be attending the meeting!! how is it fair kings lynn gets 2 out of the 7 meetings!! sheffield being pretty central it would have fetched in a hell of a lot more fans than kings lynn which is at least 3 hours from in sheffield cant see many scottish fans travelling down!!! an absolute disgrace!! also seans testimonial- no airfence- did the riders complain????? world cup a few years ago!! obviously i might be being biased as i live in sheffield but from my point of view its an utter waste of good facilities AND "the fastest track in british speedway" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it isn't fair that KL get 2 of the meetings, but who else could run it on a Thursday at short notice after Sheffield decided they can't have an airfence. would many Scottish fans travel down if it was at Poole or Swindon? the core of the EL is southern based ... it's unfortunate but that's how it is, and that's where the fans are going to come from in general. yes, it's a shame we don't have Bradford and Halifax etc in the EL, but that's speedway in the 21st century. no airfence at individual events is not anything to do with the Elite League. the Elite League Riders Championship is, that's why they need an airfence, it's an EL meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 (edited) the best thing to do is have it in the midlands and on a neutral track. so who would that be? Birmingham? anyone else? i believe Birmingham were earmarked for one of the Super7 events this year, no idea why it changed ... was it because of some rule that says a new track can't host one of the showpiece meetings in their first year? i don't know for sure, but i remember seeing their name down originally. if that's the case, then it couldn't have been there. which leaves ... erm ... where? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree Birmingham would of been ideal but I guess with their on going noise issues and I imagine operating under fairly strict planning restrictions it wouldn't of been that easy logistically. And that's before any issues with getting the stadium from (I guess) the GRA are taken into account. Edited June 8, 2007 by ajh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollyanna Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Well done Sherlock, no flies on you <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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