ELRC - Change of venue

[Star Lady]

That's two things 

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Such things happen when you have six fingers

[Daniel Smith]

That's two things 

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Just cause I suffer with a stammer you have to take the P

[Piccolo]

Also, everybody knows that EL events have to be run with an air fence. I do believe this is in the regulations so that also makes Mr Machin at fault also. He must have made some sort of promise to be allowed to host the fixture IF the air fence is the reason.

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9.2.2 Must have a safety fence, approved by the SCB, around the outer edge of the course, of a design and construction suitable for the protection of Competitors, Officials and Spectators.

9.2.3 The Safety Fence must be kept in good condition and regularly maintained.

9.2.4 An Approved Inflatable Fence (mandatory in the Elite League) may be placed on or against any type of fence and must be inflated at least 30 minutes before the start of the Meeting.

9.2.6 Advertising is permitted on fences only if these are painted thereon or are affixed throughout

 

Sheffield is not in the Elite League!

 

Sheffield v Wolverhampton

Edinburgh v Wolverhampton

Birmingham v Wolverhampton

Kings Lynn v Peterborough

 

Not even a balloon in sight

Edited June 8, 2007 by Piccolo

[semion]

Slate Young Buster all you will, but he has taken on the super7seven events, almost single handedly. He has revived a lot of individual meetings that were dying a death. I understand the British final had its biggest crowd for 8 years.

Remember folks the money that is made from these events could be the difference between some clubs running next year or not. The lad had given it a go and injected some much need interest into these events.......and wot do the forum members want to do ? Moan and groan and slate him for it......Time to wake up and smell the coffee folks.

 

We all have one common interest i guess, thats the future of British Speedway, so lets get behind these events, when we can and support the people who make it happen it.

 

rant over

Edited June 8, 2007 by semion

[21st century heathen]

...personally I think that Birmingham would have been a good choice.

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Good shout. It would have been a nice show of support for the returning club to get a bug meeting.

 

Birmingham ... they would have to get the stadium for the Thursday, and by all accounts it's bad enough getting it for a Wednesday.

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Had it been planned from the start it could have been scheduled for the Wednesday rather than the Thursday though.

 

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Those that find it hard to get to one or the other have an opinion accordingly. I can understand that. Personally I think both are good tracks, and the chances of me going to either are slim. I don't have any particular opinion of either as a club, be it good or bad. My only feeling is that speedway needs an air fence whenever possible, at any level. If this is the only change that allows an air fence to be used then so be it. The bottom line is rider safety.

 

However, a proper explanation of why the original agreement was made and why it's a late change should be forthcoming. It's about time that fans were treated as an integral part of the sport. We are sick of being fobbed off.

[Daniel Smith]

9.2.2 Must have a safety fence, approved by the SCB, around the outer edge of the course, of a design and construction suitable for the protection of Competitors, Officials and Spectators.

9.2.3 The Safety Fence must be kept in good condition and regularly maintained.

9.2.4 An Approved Inflatable Fence (mandatory in the Elite League) may be placed on or against any type of fence and must be inflated at least 30 minutes before the start of the Meeting. 9.2.6 Advertising is permitted on fences only if these are painted thereon or are affixed throughout

 

Sheffield is not in the Elite League!

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Sheffield is not in the Elite League. Correct.

 

But the event is, hence why it's called ELITE LEAGUE RIDERS CAMPIONSHIP

[tigerblues]

But the event is, hence why it's called ELITE LEAGUE RIDERS CAMPIONSHIP

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I thought it was championship myself but you seem to be more clued up on it that I am

[The Third Man]

Slate Young Buster all you will, but he has taken on the super7seven events, almost single handedly.  He has revived  a lot of individual meetings that were dying a death. I understand the British final had its biggest crowd for  8 years. 

Remember folks the money that is made from these events could be the difference between some clubs running next year or not.  The lad had given it a go and injected some much need interest into these events.......and wot do the forum members want to do ?  Moan and groan and slate him for it......Time to wake up and smell the coffee folks.

 

We all have one common interest i guess, thats the future of British Speedway, so lets get behind these events, when we can and support the people who  make it happen it.

 

rant over

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and of course the money from the bars and food outlets will be shared between the tracks as well, or will KL keep that for themselves

[King Jamie]

Sheffield v Wolverhampton

Edinburgh v Wolverhampton

Birmingham v Wolverhampton

Kings Lynn v Peterborough

 

Not even a balloon in sight

...apart from Daniel Nermark

[The Third Man]

Slate Young Buster all you will, but he has taken on the super7seven events, almost single handedly.  He has revived  a lot of individual meetings that were dying a death. I understand the British final had its biggest crowd for  8 years. 

Remember folks the money that is made from these events could be the difference between some clubs running next year or not.  The lad had given it a go and injected some much need interest into these events.......and wot do the forum members want to do ?  Moan and groan and slate him for it......Time to wake up and smell the coffee folks.

 

We all have one common interest i guess, thats the future of British Speedway, so lets get behind these events, when we can and support the people who  make it happen it.

 

rant over

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and of course the money from the bars and food outlets will be shared between the tracks as well, or will KL keep that for themselves

 

also as stated elsewhere, the FACT that there was not going to be an air fence at sheffield was known when the meeting was allocated to us, so what has changed since that date,

 

a lot of injuries at sheffield this year NO

 

EL teams and riders have refused to ride at sheffield this year because there isnt an air fence NO

 

elite league riders will refuse to ride in the Gary Stead meeting because there isnt an air fence NO

 

maybe the (mis) management commitee had a bout of temp blindness and deafness when the fact that sheffield cant have an air fence on a thursday was mentioned POSSIBLE

 

some other reason completely un related to any of the above MOST LIKELY

 

PS can you give me the crowd figures for the british final for the last eight years to back up your statement

Edited June 8, 2007 by The Third Man

[geepeeargh]

perhaps next year we can hold all 7 at KL and we could have a welsh GP at cardiff and an english one at KL to complete the set

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I doubt that Cardiff would try to compete with Mr Chapman, and that all the Scottish fans would understand that a Scottish Grand Prix should be at a neutral venue.

 

As far as I'm concerned this was the final straw

 

Goodbye and good riddance

[Pollyanna]

I heard that Kings Lynn have bought the airfence from Oxford

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Well, that is strange as according to Aaron Lanney on Radio Oxford, he said they have kept the Oxford air-fence and it is safely stored away.

Did anyone else hear him say that?

Edited June 8, 2007 by Pollyanna

[Pollyanna]

Its officilal...speedway does not exist beyond wolverhamton as far as the BSPA is concerned.

 

super 7 might be a good concept but fans north of manchester have been completely stuffed as far as getting to one of the meetings.

 

keep going the sport should be dead in 4yrs with these clowns in charge (enjoy your glory)

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Agree with you and Kings Lynn is a heck of an outlandish place to get to from Bournemouth!

 

Remember the organiser of these events is one Jonathan Chapman, co-promoter of .......Kings Lynn!

[WATigerman]

".......................but no-one knows the reasons for change............"

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Quite. Bit of a recurring theme in speedway these days I feel.........................

[semion]

So 3rd man you work for nothing do you ? if not why would u expect others to ?........ So its been taken away from Sheffield, No i dont have the figues for any Speedway matches :(does anyone)

 

I guess the prove of the pudding will be at the end of the season, when the other promoters get there cut and if they are happy. If not, im sure there will be loads of People stepping forward to take it on. ( yeah right !!!)

[WATigerman]

can't quite put my finger on it but i'm feeling there's something not right with that post 

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You worried that the time stamp might be wrong Steve?

[Sir Jasper]

Would be great to see Kev back. Not sure about Troy's chances of overtaking Crumpy and Bjarne in the Poole averages though

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But where do you suggest holding it? they cant use Sheffield for whatever reason and Kirky lane isnt in the best shape track wise at the mo, nor would it provide a neutral venue.

[adam_1282]

I am extremely down-heartened by all this JC bull.

 

As has been hinted previously, the northern clubs now have a long way to travel to watch the event which has conveniently found itself moved to JCs.

 

I have no gripes about the KL track it must be said. (Although all the PL teams seem to have problems with riding it! )

 

My problem is that the JC show has now held all the super 7even events down south. meaning a rediculous amount of travelling costs for Glasgow, Edinburgh, Berwick, Newcastle, Redcar and Workington fans. And to a lesser extent, Sheffield, Stoke and Belle Vue. On top of these there are also the northern CL teams.

 

To me that is a lot of fans not being catered for!!!

[crikeythatsfast]

Its officilal...speedway does not exist beyond wolverhamton as far as the BSPA is concerned.

 

super 7 might be a good concept but fans north of manchester have been completely stuffed as far as getting to one of the meetings.

 

keep going the sport should be dead in 4yrs with these clowns in charge (enjoy your glory)

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And which neutral PL track would you suggest it was held at?

Wherever it's held there will always be unhappy bunnies because of travelling etc. No win situation AFAIC.

[Blazeaway]

as has already been mentioned, the Chapman's own their stadium so are in a good position to say what happens in that stadium on any particular day.

 

if another stadium was to be found for that Thursday night who could accomodate?

so many tracks have to consider other events ... i would love to see it at Peterborough, but as it's a showground they have to fit in with everything else, hence no meetings for a couple of weeks.

Birmingham ... they would have to get the stadium for the Thursday, and by all accounts it's bad enough getting it for a Wednesday.

 

how many promoters own their stadium and could seriously put on the ELRC at fairly short notice?

 

with regards to Neil Machin, he's part of the BSPA so did he not realise that all EL meetings have to have an airfence?

i know people are saying that this meeting and that meeting didn't have one, but as this is an EL meeting, it would surely have to.

you'd think he might have spoke up at the time it was agreed, after all, i bet he wasn't just told he was having the ELRC and there were no discussions.

 

when Kings Lynn put on the EL Pairs, they had to go down to Eastbourne the night before to collect their air fence to borrow, i expect something like this will have to happen again.

airfences are not generic, they do not fit all types of fence, these have to be the right type, so it's not always just a case of saying they could have just gone and got Oxford's.

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Should have had it at rye, i'm sure Uncle Lens "FIM" certified track could have coped.