lupus Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 (edited) once and for all its not just the time constraints its the fact that once the fence has been erected it HAS TO BE INSPECTED by someone from sheffield council, do you think this can be done between between the time the fence had been erected (and it would take a lot longer at sheffield than it would at wolves) and the start time of the meeting, and what would happen if the inspector was late or wanted alterations??? no meeting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No need to get arsey with me sunshine - I've checked back throught he thread and can find now reference to this prior to your post. So there's no need for the 'for once and for all' stuff - just ONCE would have been enough! the owlerton fence is inspected by a H&S officer from sheffield council before EVERY home meeting.this inspection takes ONE AND A HALF HOURS and details EVERY nut and bolt!this is what being a few hundred yards from where the hillsborough disaster took place does for you.however,there can never be any question of the fence not being safe!so,to put up an air fence (an hour or so maybe?) and then have the inspection is unworkable when the dogs don't finish till 4(ish).there will NEVER be an air fence at owlerton,there may be no speedway...who knows?IF the sheffield promotion had been asked by the BSPA then THIS is the answer they would have got...THEY DIDN'T ASK and the contract was signed. ps/ i am now risking being banned by the sheff promotion for saying too much!(oh and the BSPA have already given me a warning about slander....to which i replied- it's only slander if it aint true!). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay I get your drift but working on YOUR timings above...Dogs finish at 4 pm, airfence takes one hour to put up, so that's 5 pm, inspection takes 'ONE AND A HALF HOURS' as you put it, so that's 6.30pm.....still ONE HOUR at least before the start time...............................................problem? Edited June 10, 2007 by lupus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Okay I get your drift but working on YOUR timings above...Dogs finish at 4 pm, airfence takes one hour to put up, so that's 5 pm, inspection takes 'ONE AND A HALF HOURS' as you put it, so that's 6.30pm.....still ONE HOUR at least before the start time...............................................problem? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i did say 4 'ISH' i really have no idea (it could be 5 or 6)....problem? i'd say so! still missing the point of the 'problem'....the BSPA have been aware of this since JANUARY.how many people have booked tickets,hotels,days off etc etc?it's done and dusted now and we just get on with it BUT the stigma remains.bad decisions,poor PR,let the customers' down yet again.and no one is big enough to come out and say sorry to joe public for the shambolic F*** UP.NOT A SINGLE WORD....how do they stay in business??? (some of them don't!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Are you going for the record number of posts by one member in a single thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 was just thinking i must shut up before i say too much (more)!point taken (but very.very angry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 "Okay I get your drift but working on YOUR timings above...Dogs finish at 4 pm, airfence takes one hour to put up, so that's 5 pm, inspection takes 'ONE AND A HALF HOURS' as you put it, so that's 6.30pm.....still ONE HOUR at least before the start time...............................................problem?" Vacancy "Man for local authority position, must work flexi time, be at BSPA beck and call, needs big cheeks and lots of puff. Billy Smart's will provide all the training. Unique opportunity to work for nothing and get boat loads of aggravation" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piccolo Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 All right then give the job to Flinty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzer Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 If the real reason for moving from sheffield is to do with AIR FENCE etc , then why can neither the BSPA or Sheffield just issue a statement and explain it once and for all Until then , people will continue to speculate and the fact the venue is changed to the home track of the Promoter in charge of the event only adds fuel to the FIRE It amazes me how these people ever get in position to run the sport , i have said since i first went to speedway some 30 + years ago the SPORT MUST BE RUN by an independent BODY with no self interests The reason people are getting so annoyed is once again , the total lack of information coming from the TOP I am afraid A*** and Elbow Springs to mind once more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Straight Steve Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 We MUST be told the correct reason for the switch. "Technical reasons" is an insult to the paying public on which the survival of the sport relies This event has been the talk of Owlerton for some time and is a slap in the face to all of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 (edited) If the real reason for moving from sheffield is to do with AIR FENCE etc , then why can neither the BSPA or Sheffield just issue a statement and explain it once and for all Until then , people will continue to speculate and the fact the venue is changed to the home track of the Promoter in charge of the event only adds fuel to the FIRE It amazes me how these people ever get in position to run the sport , i have said since i first went to speedway some 30 + years ago the SPORT MUST BE RUN by an independent BODY with no self interests The reason people are getting so annoyed is once again , the total lack of information coming from the TOP I am afraid A*** and Elbow Springs to mind once more <{POST_SNAPBACK}> the sheffield promotion have been told to keep quiet by the BSPA or risk a fine. and the reason why so many posts from sheffield fans is that we know the reason isnt an air fence and we would like to know the real reason so email the bspa and see what they say, however next years ELRC will be over before you get a reply Edited June 11, 2007 by The Third Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crikeythatsfast Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 seems to me that chapman is yet another of the considerable numbers of " wide boys " that have found there way into the sport , i suppose they have been around for a long period of time but the more sensible and respected people, many of whom are now sadly gone or have drifted out of the sport have kept them in check A small number of them mainly in the south are in GRAVE danger of ruining speedway , making money form countless backhanders and ducbious dealings I dont trust this bloke one little bit , Elite league speedway this season is a shambles, the nice guy that peter toogood undoubtedly is m hes being railroaded by this small group of very dubious people , that like the publicity of Page 3 gitls and cameras , mark my words this man caanot be trusted !!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Serious allegations there, youd better just hope that certain promoters are not reading what you write. Make criticisms by all means by stating what is FACT, however being slanderous is another thing entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Quote by razzer: but the more sensible and respected people, many of whom are now sadly gone or have drifted out of the sport have kept them in check would that be the same sensible and respected people that in the 30+ years that you've been going have gradually run the sport into the ground making serious changes necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Serious allegations there, youd better just hope that certain promoters are not reading what you write. Make criticisms by all means by stating what is FACT, however being slanderous is another thing entirely <{POST_SNAPBACK}> only slanderous if not true, not saying whether it is or not as i dont have the evidence, and as everyone above supporter level is saying nothing dont think we ever will, which in its self speaks volumes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Quote by razzer: but the more sensible and respected people, many of whom are now sadly gone or have drifted out of the sport have kept them in check would that be the same sensible and respected people that in the 30+ years that you've been going have gradually run the sport into the ground making serious changes necessary? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes people like frank varey, dent oliver cril crane, yes they ran the sport into the ground didnt they, or is it the more modern promoters who have done that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 the last 20 - 30 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I sometimes think that promoters dont comment on things because even if Jonathan came on here and said it was to do with the air fence you would say he was lying....so in a no win situation Jonathan is superb for the sport and like a breath of fresh air IMO.....At the end of the day ...every single fan could run the BSPA better couldnt they.....!!!!!!...dont think so jirout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 (edited) Jonathan is superb for the sport and like a breath of fresh air IMO.....At the end of the day ...every single fan could run the BSPA better couldnt they.....!!!!!!...dont think so jirout <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats this weeks rent halved Edited June 11, 2007 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Now can we have the PLRC back at Sheffield please ! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, doubt it, terry can have it at swindon <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your more than welcome to it matousek think its a total waste of time holding a prem meeting at swindon .Tend to think these meetings despite how attractive mr chapman may try to portray it as relies too much on local crowd support to make it worthwhile...and i dont believe the public of swindon will greatly support such an event without any local interest..i mean why settle for semi skimmed when your used to the cream?! Just hold it at KL ...he obviously wants to monopolise the so called super 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIROUT Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Semion You are such a cynic.......... Amount of freebies Honie is getting there wont be any rent to pay jirout...or perhaps i should call myself fry now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matousek Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 No, doubt it, terry can have it at swindon <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your more than welcome to it matousek think its a total waste of time holding a prem meeting at swindon .Tend to think these meetings despite how attractive mr chapman may try to portray it as relies too much on local crowd support to make it worthwhile...and i dont believe the public of swindon will greatly support such an event without any local interest..i mean why settle for semi skimmed when your used to the cream?! Just hold it at KL ...he obviously wants to monopolise the so called super 7 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> take it your not bothered about it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crikeythatsfast Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 only slanderous if not true, not saying whether it is or not as i dont have the evidence, and as everyone above supporter level is saying nothing dont think we ever will, which in its self speaks volumes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe, maybe not and as you have stated maybe people will never know, however I can and will comment on JC because I can and do know him personally as a lot on here do. I know a lot of tripe is spouted about people who know very little about his integrity and him as a person. I am not talking about questions being asked in a sensible manner, concerns voiced or opinions expressed in an ADULT manner. I am talking about the constant sniping, playground accusations and general childishness some have shown on this forum I am talking about accusing people of things, and worse the accused not being on here to defend themselves. If any of you have a problem with JC, the Kings Lynn promotion, the BSPA be big enough to act on what you are stating. If you have a problem with JC or the Kings Lynn promotion then talk to Buster or JC about it, we have not so long back, and in the past they are nice enough people and actually DO listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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