norbold Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 We don't have the space like you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackman Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Bugger! Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andout Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Bugger! Regards. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now THAT was funny.....Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackman Posted September 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) G/Day andout... thank you, I do say it a lot. "Generally acknowledged"..... I do my best to keep it lightharted & informative. Regards. PS. http://www.ausm.info/aus_history/1920-30/thebarton.htm "On the Saturday afternoon of March 25, 1922, another sports carnival, at which motorcycles raced, was held on Thebarton Oval. The Thebarton Women’s Services Association organised this fund-raising event in aid of local charities. 3½ h.p. motorcycles contested two heats and a final over distances of one mile. Charlie Moyle (riding a 3½ hp Levis) was once again the star rider. Motorcycle novelty events were also conducted. All motorcycle events were once again under the control of the Motor Cycle Club of South Australia"......... Only 3 1/2hp ..... as I said Ben Hur had 4hp! I'll go with Nigel on this one.... in post No30 .... "I have evidence of Dirt Track racing around horse trotting tracks in Italy in 11BC" Bugger! Edited September 15, 2007 by Trackman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Well, it's my belief that the first proper speedway meeting in this country with bikes with no brakes, a proper dirt track and broadsiding was the second meeting at High Beech held on 9 April 1928. I don't think Droyslden, Camberley or the first High Beech meeting had any of that. So 1928 it is then! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's been drawn to my attention that the 2nd mtg @ High Beech was on Sat 7th April, whereas on 9th April two meetings were held, one in morning & another in evening !. So which of these meetings do you consider to be the real thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyguy Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 (edited) It's been drawn to my attention that the 2nd mtg @ High Beech was on Sat 7th April, whereas on 9th April two meetings were held, one in morning & another in evening !. So which of these meetings do you consider to be the real thing ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is all getting interesting as we approach the 2008 80th anniversary of High Beech. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Edited October 24, 2007 by speedyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 It's been drawn to my attention that the 2nd mtg @ High Beech was on Sat 7th April, whereas on 9th April two meetings were held, one in morning & another in evening !. So which of these meetings do you consider to be the real thing ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, the programme for sale on eBay is very interesting. I have never seen a report of a meeting on 7 April 1928 before. I shall investigate further and let you know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Yes, the programme for sale on eBay is very interesting. I have never seen a report of a meeting on 7 April 1928 before. I shall investigate further and let you know.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Norbold, the only mention I have seen of the 7 April meeting was in "Motor Cycling" dated 11 April 1928. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of that report, but I kept the following details: Easter Saturday 7.4.28 King's Oak, High Beech Meeting no.2. Track re-designed. 250cc N Anderson (Dunelt), A.N Other (New Imperial) 350cc Gus Kuhn (Calthorpe), B Bragg (Coventry Eagle), Colin Watson (New Imperial) 500cc Colin Watson, Reg F Pointer (Ariel), Jimmy Stevens (Norton) Sidecars S O Fraser (OK-Supreme) There is no mention of this meeting in "The Motor Cycle", "Speedway News", or "Auto" The winner of the eBay auction for the programme may be able to tell us more if the results are filled in, but that won't be me, as I expect it to get a bit too pricey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 The winner of the eBay auction for the programme may be able to tell us more if the results are filled in, but that won't be me, as I expect it to get a bit too pricey! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh go on Brian,be a devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Oh go on Brian,be a devil. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, all contributions are welcome, iris123, even Euros ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Is there a link to this programme?I have looked through about 10 pages of ebay and found nowt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMinuteWarning Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thats cos it was listed as 1926 in error! http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll...+programme+1926 Get your bid in now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 (edited) Thanks.Looks like a certain member of this forum is currently highest bidder.My worry is the seller is absolutely new and would the programme be kosher I thought there are a fair number of fakes in this sort of area.Badges and programmes? Edited October 24, 2007 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Norbold, the only mention I have seen of the 7 April meeting was in "Motor Cycling" dated 11 April 1928. Unfortunately I don't have a copy of that report, but I kept the following details: Easter Saturday 7.4.28 King's Oak, High Beech Meeting no.2. Track re-designed. 250cc N Anderson (Dunelt), A.N Other (New Imperial) 350cc Gus Kuhn (Calthorpe), B Bragg (Coventry Eagle), Colin Watson (New Imperial) 500cc Colin Watson, Reg F Pointer (Ariel), Jimmy Stevens (Norton) Sidecars S O Fraser (OK-Supreme) There is no mention of this meeting in "The Motor Cycle", "Speedway News", or "Auto" The winner of the eBay auction for the programme may be able to tell us more if the results are filled in, but that won't be me, as I expect it to get a bit too pricey! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh well, I'm off to Colindale tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Oh well, I'm off to Colindale tomorrow... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmm, is that where the secret stash of Jacobs money is secreted then..??!!!! Do you need a lift..?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Do you need a lift..?!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, thanks, it's ok, really, I can make my own there, thanks for asking... Phew! Bit of a narrow escape there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Thanks.Looks like a certain member of this forum is currently highest bidder. Not any more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 My worry is the seller is absolutely new and would the programme be kosher Hmm, that's a point. Also strange comment that the prog. is said to be in such good condition because" ..it has been stored in an air -tight container for 80 years". Seems strange that somebody would've kept something so 'throwaway' at the time (one reason why quite possibly this is one of just a handful surviving..) in such perfect storage conditions from day one and for so long..??!! The price isn't soaring yet but surely it is going to fetch a packet..!!? BTW, the reason High Beech produces nothing on a search is it's listed under King's Oak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 (edited) Norman, I have just checked my fixture list for 1928 .............and it says a meeting was held on the 7th April and two on the 9th April (morning and afternoon). I have only recently obtained this list and have not examined them closely until this thread brought things to my attention! Edited October 24, 2007 by Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Right, this is the story from Colindale. Auto does not mention either meeting. Motor Cycling reports on the meeting on the 7 April; but not the two on 9 April Motor Cycle reports on the two meetings on 9 April but not on 7 April. The local papers, West Essex Gazette and Loughton Advertiser, both report the meetings on 9 April but not the meeting on 7 April. However, there is a line in the Loughton Advertiser report which says that the meeting on 9 April was the third meeting held at High Beech, which indicates there was a meeting on 7 April. So, I think we can safely say there was a meeting on 7 April; but it seems strange that only Motor Cycling reported it. Also, in the course of this investigation, I came across the report on the meeting at Greenford held on 7 April as well, also in Motor Cycling. I could be persuaded that, in fact, this was the first "real" speedway meeting in this country. There is an accompanying photograph which shows two riders, one of whom is Billy Galloway, the other unnamed, with their feet on the track cornering. Curiously, Galloway appears to have a foot forward style. (The other is leg trailing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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