Hans Semi

[thehammer]

i'm sure i read somewhere that when there is a tie on points, race wins count, if that is the same then the highest ranking rider progresses

 

same as with chris harris 4th equal on points with leigh and hans but due to world ranking only classified as 6th in the standings

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Ah but is this really true? If you look at the order its in.... Adams, Andersen, Harris. To me that is alphabetical!

[21st century heathen]

you ignore my point

 

Not at all. I simply don't agree with you.

 

what happened to run offs?

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Too long-winded. There's a tv schedule to consider. Where do you draw the line? Do you run off for every position (in meetings generally)? Some riders would have to use the tyre for an extra 4 laps, and be more fatigued themselves.

 

Having just spent a weekend with the 9 FIM rule books etc in front of me, I have to agree with you 21st Century Heathen.

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I think it's sensible, but I'm open to opinions others may have.

 

Winning race times perhaps?

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Unfair. It could largely depend on how the track was prepared when you happened to go out.

[frigbo]

Knowing Speedway it was probably decided by alphabetical order!

[Peregrinner]

Knowing Speedway it was probably decided by alphabetical order!

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That was the conclusion I came to after checking back to see that in the first contest between the combatants the order was HAMPEL,HOLTA,ANDERSEN.

 

What happened to keeping the Poles sweet?

 

Now I know that trying and falling is likely to result in missing out on a semi-final place I understand why Antonio Lindback rode like he did.

[Boothers]

Really don't understand how Hans Andersen qualified for the Semis in this GP.

 

Surely the fact that in heat 2 where three of the riders who finished on 6 points met both Hampel and Holta finished in front of Andersen should mean that one of these two riders should have qualified as per 77.9.2. - other than the fact that in one of their other rides Hampel and Holta didn't finish the race for whatever reason.

 

Bit of a mockery as far as I'm concerned.

[Pollyanna]

Really don't understand how Hans Andersen qualified for the Semis in this GP.

 

Surely the fact that in heat 2 where three of the riders who finished on 6 points met both Hampel and Holta finished in front of Andersen should mean that one of these two riders should have qualified as per 77.9.2. - other than the fact that in one of their other rides Hampel and Holta didn't finish the race for whatever reason.

 

Bit of a mockery as far as I'm concerned.

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See Speedway Star's explanation which I posted on the "Semis at Wroclaw" thread.

[barrow boy]

You give a very poor example.  Had they been tied on points then either AJ would have been shocking, or Lindback much better.  You can't try to apply the rule to riders that have had such different nights.  The whole point of any count back system is to split riders that have finished on level points.

 

If two riders were to finish level on 7 points and were tied for the last semi spot they would have to be split somehow.  If one rider had failed to finish a race because of a fall (for eg), and the other had completed all his rides my rule would make sense.  The rider that had fallen had made a crucial error that the other hadn't.  That should count against him.

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It would be simple enough to let them race off or is this being too simple

[f-s-p]

Read the rules and stick with them. Simple enough?

Why bother with this speculation, since it's black and white in the rules. Only bit in the rules considered a laughing stock regarding this particular bit of it is the fact what happened in Austria in the U21 World's final. And it was the first...