21st century heathen Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Brandon and Wimborne Rd are similar tracks as had been proven that we ride well round there like they ride well down here. Kennett is flying at the moment and showed he would be much better suited than Howe as he proved last night with a maximum and Howe couldn't beat Swist. Also has Howe ridden at Coventry this season? So please take off your Midlands tinted specs off. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Can't believe I'm actually going to rise to this, but here we go. Cov and Poole have tracks of a very similar length, but the shape and surface are different. Howe is averaging more than Kennett in the league. Howe scored paid 9 from 4 at Brandon this season. Match report. Kennett scored 4 from 4 at Brandon this season. Match report. Allen has a current CMA of 5.33 at Brandon this season. Seasons stats. At Brandon this season Kennett is behind both Howe and Allen in the pecking order. Hell, even Barker scored more than Kennett at Brandon this season. Convinced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Bee Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Kennett should NOT be in team GB at Brandon. Harris, Nichools, Stead, Richardson and Howe with either Allen or Kennett on STANDBY. TBH I'd have Olly as track reserve for Brandon - but knowing Middlo - Kennett will be in the 1 to 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PanthersChamp06 Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 1. Nicholls 2. Howe 3. Stead 4. Rico 5. Harris 6. Kennett/Allen/Norris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngy105 Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Does it matter...we're not going to win it anyway. Middlo will make the decision when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Fantastic contribution. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart road Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 something kicked into gear with kennett after the match at lakeside,i saw him at eastbourne this year and was disappointed,but since the essex match he has been top class. if the stattos out there were to look at his average since lakeside(and include all guest appearances) his record takes a completely different stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Why don't they get em all up at Coventry and do time trials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Why don't they get em all up at Coventry and do time trials? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Good idea. The Poles probably do it each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) Can't believe I'm actually going to rise to this, but here we go. Cov and Poole have tracks of a very similar length, but the shape and surface are different. Howe is averaging more than Kennett in the league. Howe scored paid 9 from 4 at Brandon this season. Match report. Kennett scored 4 from 4 at Brandon this season. Match report. Allen has a current CMA of 5.33 at Brandon this season. Seasons stats. At Brandon this season Kennett is behind both Howe and Allen in the pecking order. Hell, even Barker scored more than Kennett at Brandon this season. Convinced? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not really, but impressed with the effort of trying to convince me. In reponse, I would say Ed's form is currently shooting up and Howe's is slightly faltering and I think scores would be different now on current form and I am sure Ed would score similar, so I would say on averages, they are roughly the same. Olly Allen IMO is not good enough. I'd rather have Norris. Kennett also has the advantage of youth on his side over Howe. We should give more chances of our up and coming riders and I agree that riders like Bridger/Wright should be included in squad set-up. The best way to resolve this IMO for the selection process would be, take the form of riders amd not just in the EL but abroad. See who does what in the British Final(stupidly of course, it not being held at a neutral venue but at Howe's home track ) and pick the best riders for the track and conditions on the day. Edited May 11, 2007 by bazaar3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatDave Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) Not a fan of the competition...not sure I'll be taking my usual spot at Brandon either...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shame on ya, Steve! IMHO the SWC gives you better racing than the GP's - teams like Oz, the Danes, the Swedish etc take this comp very seriously, and at least half-a-dozen or so fans will travel from the other side of the world to watch it. Must agree a team of Nicholls, Stead, Harris, Richardson and Howe for the Coventry leg would be the best you can put together, may even get you straight through to the final though that can be a double-edged sword, gives you too long between races I reckon; having said that, Poland this year will be very hard to beat at home. Go OZ!! Flyin' Ryan looks on form as well now he's not racing Elite League, 'tho how long that'll continue is anyone's guess. Edited May 11, 2007 by BigFatDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markone Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Nicholls, Harris, Rico, Stead, Kennett/Howe Difficult choice the last 'un both started impressly but even more impressive as been Kennett's Polish form which suggests he's on the 'pace'. I'd get Bridger, Auty and Woffinden all involved in the set-up. Invite them to Coventry and take them to Poland. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is the post of a person that should be team manager....... Or is that just because it reflects my own view?...... Now where did i put those blinkers?...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 In reponse, I would say Ed's form is currently shooting up and Howe's is slightly faltering and I think scores would be different now on current form and I am sure Ed would score similar, so I would say on averages, they are roughly the same. I agree that their league form is roughly the same from one week to the next at the moment. You will notice that I have given credit to Ed for his form this season quite a number of times. Olly Allen IMO is not good enough. I'd rather have Norris. I can understand that opinion from anyone that doesn't watch him on a regular basis. He's good at home though, and we saw a different side to him on Monday at Monmore. It's not a track he usually goes well on, but he was quick and aggresive. (have you seen the clip on the BSPA website of his race with Howe?) His form is going the right way, and he should be on the reserve list. Kennett also has the advantage of youth on his side over Howe. We should give more chances of our up and coming riders and I agree that riders like Bridger/Wright should be included in squad set-up. Howe is hardly an old fart though is he?!! I agree that the younger lads should be involed in some way. Are riders that travel with the 1-5 as reserves allowed to practice? Even that would be very useful experience. The best way to resolve this IMO for the selection process would be, take the form of riders amd not just in the EL but abroad. See who does what in the British Final(stupidly of course, it not being held at a neutral venue but at Howe's home track ) and pick the best riders for the track and conditions on the day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Y'see I knew you'd come around. Ed doesn't have a good record at Brandon, and Howe does. It has nothing to do with bias, it's just a case of 'horses for courses'. With that in mind I wouldn't be afraid to drop a rider if there was a better suited rider for the final (assuming we make it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Turner Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Shame on ya, Steve! IMHO the SWC gives you better racing than the GP's <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nothing to do with the racing, Dave. You may well be right, I've not watched a whole WTC meeting to judge. I just don't get excited about international competitions. Not in any sport. You have to be patriotic to enjoy them...and I'm not that ! Plus...with the Finals being held where they are, it looks like another predictable outcome...which also puts me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazaar3 Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Y'see I knew you'd come around. Ed doesn't have a good record at Brandon, and Howe does. It has nothing to do with bias, it's just a case of 'horses for courses'. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Come around? I would pick neither of them if Loram was fit, although I would say Richardson is certainly not guaranteed a spot like Ed or David. If you saw how Ed was riding week in, week out from the last month or so, I am sure anyone including Neil would give him a definate chance and personally I don't think Howe has the mentality to ride confidently enough at this level, where I think Ed who is on a real high has. Time will tell and maybe the only way to settle it is two rides for each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Is there a warm -up test match this season at all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Are riders that travel with the 1-5 as reserves allowed to practice? Yes, the whole squad pratices THEN a team is declared. So the best way is to race Howe, Kennett, Allen and Norris (or Screen if you prefer) to see who gets the last place/reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzman Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Why don't they get em all up at Coventry and do time trials? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed and a couple of test matches. One at home and one away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 I would pick neither of them if Loram was fit... I think I can say with some certainty that we'd all have Mark down as a dead-cert. Time will tell and maybe the only way to settle it is two rides for each. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a better way to settle it. David Howe is a member, don't know about Ed Kennett. I say we invite them both to state their case, and then let the grand jury (or forum members as they're better known) decide who has madethe best case for a place in the 1-5. Yes, the whole squad pratices THEN a team is declared. So the best way is to race Howe, Kennett, Allen and Norris (or Screen if you prefer) to see who gets the last place/reserve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's the way to do it then. Name as many as you can (is there an upper limit?), and see who looks best at the time. I'd like to see the young lads such as Lewis and James get a chance to be around for practice. Let them see what it's all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Blimey - we've got pages of debate about selection of a squad at a time when we're struggling to find enough decent riders to make up the squad. Try and pick the team 30 years ago - there was intense competition among the riders for WTC slots. Someone in form and genuinely world class was bound to get left out, whichever choices were made! Don't try to kid me that we have even a fraction of the selection dilemma now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Is there a warm -up test match this season at all . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heat 1, WTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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