Highlander Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I've just noticed in this weeks "Star" that the Scunthorpe round has no fewer than seven home riders taking part. The Weymouth round has four home riders listed. Surely in fairness the riders should have been a bit more spread out. Scunthorpe for example could have had three at home two at Weymouth and two at Plymouth. In my opinion it opens up two things. 1. Home riders at this level having too much of an advantage and 2 Team mates looking out for one another to ensure an easier passage. If there is a reason for this I'd love to know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leoni Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Why is it that no one mentioned the fact that all the Plymouth entries rode at Plymouth?? It shows what a good young side Scunthorpe have got, having seven entrants in this, I do understand what you are saying though,maybe they should just have a draw, like they do with football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Willie Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I've just noticed in this weeks "Star" that the Scunthorpe round has no fewer than seven home riders taking part. The Weymouth round has four home riders listed. Surely in fairness the riders should have been a bit more spread out. Scunthorpe for example could have had three at home two at Weymouth and two at Plymouth. In my opinion it opens up two things. 1. Home riders at this level having too much of an advantage and 2 Team mates looking out for one another to ensure an easier passage. If there is a reason for this I'd love to know it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its because this is speedway, it would'nt be right if every thing was sensible. Always thought the qualifying rounds and thats what they are , not semi finals were supposed to be regionalised, thats why you get so many riders racing on their home circuit. But why oh why have two on the south coast, both on friday evenings, does not make sense. Should have had one at a midlands track. And who's crackpot idea was it to have a semi-final and a final in a qualifying round? Can see the senario now, rider A scores a flawless 15 point maximum, head and shoulders above the rest, odds on favorite to take the title, comes out in the final and has a puncture when leading, thats him out of the championship. Pathetic bloody rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules m Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Its because this is speedway, it would'nt be right if every thing was sensible. Always thought the qualifying rounds and thats what they are , not semi finals were supposed to be regionalised, thats why you get so many riders racing on their home circuit. But why oh why have two on the south coast, both on friday evenings, does not make sense. Should have had one at a midlands track. And who's crackpot idea was it to have a semi-final and a final in a qualifying round? Can see the senario now, rider A scores a flawless 15 point maximum, head and shoulders above the rest, odds on favorite to take the title, comes out in the final and has a puncture when leading, thats him out of the championship. Pathetic bloody rule <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirlFriday Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Any news and results from U21 Qualifier at Scunny ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Woffinden, Auty & Courtney. Unluckiest person to not qualify was Tully. 13pts from first 5 rides, he qualified for run-off semi-final only to shed chain while leading 4th lap. Gutted is an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 what did richie dennis and simon lambert, darren mallet do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Dennis 8 from 5, ret in 1. Lambert 5 from 5 but after nasty crash involving Tai, Si & Cockle in his last, did not come out for re-run(bad leg). Mallett 2 from 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyham Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 I do believe a rider from Scunthorpe was to ride in the Plymouth draw, but it was reported it was to far to travel so a reserve took his place. And that rider just happend to be riding today at Scunthorpe. So why if he did not ride his allocated spot was he allowed to take another which was at his home track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffyscouse Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Richie Dennis was down to ride at Plymouth - but injury to a rider (forget who) - saw common sense and save Rcihie a trek - it also let a local rider to Plymouth (again forget who) get his chance to ride without a long journey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Talking about home advantage I think lewis Bridger maybe the fravourate to win the final on his home track at Eastbourne, especially when most of the riders have never been on the track before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsloes 1928 nearly Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Woffinden, Auty & Courtney. Unluckiest person to not qualify was Tully. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now that Tai has competed in and more importantly qualified for the Final of the British Under 21s (and who would bet against him winning the Final..: I wouldn't..!!): then surely this must end the 'debate' about whether he is to compete on the international scene as a Brit or an Aussie... As the British Under 21s is the route onto the World Under 21s (and Tai's a near certainity to progress to them), then surely he has nailed his colours (red, white & blue!!) to the British mast...??! Or has he..?? Let's note for future reference that young Brits like Andrew Tully missed out of the 2007 GB Final; so it was would be a poor state of affairs if indeed someone who opted later to ride for another country progressed at their expense..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonomous Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Three rounds of British Under 21 Qualifiers. But to have 7 riders, who ride week in week out that track for their club, is a bit unfair to the others. I know Richie should of been at Plymouth and he was moved to Scunthorpe becayse I presume the distance was to far. But to then ask Cal McDade to race who is from Glasgow taking the mickey. The question has to be asked to Peter Oakes, Is this draw really out of the hat? If yes, Who was the Witness? This draw was an absolute disgrace, and gave the Scunthorpe Riders a huge advantage over others like Ben Hannon, Jamie Courtney, Sean Stoddart etc. In no way am I slaggin off the Scunny riders as I have to say they were all simply awesome, especially Scott Richardson. Also feel really bad for Tully as he would of been in the Final if not for a snapped chain! OUCH I know I am not going to get my answers but still, even Scunny fans should be able to see where I am coming from? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Oakes has always played the "favourites" game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffyscouse Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 He wears seriously bad slacks and shirt combos too - lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Yep qualifiers should have been held on neutral tracks surely ................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicar Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Does anyone know heat after heat from today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribbler Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 At the Plymouth U21 qualifier there were 6 riders/ex-riders from Plymouth who all knew their way around the SBA. I'm not suggesting that the Plymouth qualifier was fixed. It was great that there actually was a Northern qualifier this year and not just 2 Southern ones. I'm sure all the Northern riders that attended were pleased not to have to travel too far and many of them use Scunthorpe for training anyway. I'm sure this thread was started by a Plymouth fan as it's a familiar comment from their site. Stop the wind ups and concentrate on praising ALL riders ( who risk serious injury to entertain us each week - as other threads show) Threads that begin the way Mr.A started this one do nothing to enhance the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Darren Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 At the Plymouth U21 qualifier there were 6 riders/ex-riders from Plymouth who all knew their way around the SBA. I'm not suggesting that the Plymouth qualifier was fixed. It was great that there actually was a Northern qualifier this year and not just 2 Southern ones. I'm sure all the Northern riders that attended were pleased not to have to travel too far and many of them use Scunthorpe for training anyway. I'm sure this thread was started by a Plymouth fan as it's a familiar comment from their site. Stop the wind ups and concentrate on praising ALL riders ( who risk serious injury to entertain us each week - as other threads show) Threads that begin the way Mr.A started this one do nothing to enhance the sport. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and i am sure that i know the plymouth fans enough to know they wouldnt hide behind a false name scribbler.. we originally had 3 riders from our squad in the U21's and with also 3 of them having only had the press and practise day to get to grips with the track so i couldnt call that an advantage. as we have pretty much a whole new team this year. but when 2 riders pulled out then our reserve riders came in which made it more of the plymouth riders involved.. jamie westacott was there but he is a weymouth asset. dont know why richie dennis pulled out you cant say the promotion didnt know in enough time as every promoter had the same email miles in front of the event and the email told them to inform the riders where they were riding. but to pick and choose saying it is to far to travel to ride is amazing it was allowed. but ohh well it is all done now unfair for the away riders visiting the scunny track i know but itis for the riders to take that up with peter oaks. darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M08 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) Riders Scores: 1st Tai Woffinden (Scunthorpe and Rye House) 15 2nd Joshua Auty (Scunthorpe and Redcar) 14 3rd Andrew Tully (Scunthorpe and Edinburgh) 13 4th Scott Richardson (Scunthorpe) 10 5th Benji Compton (Scunthorpe and Berwick) 9 6th Jamie Courtney (Redcar) 9 7th Joe Haines (Scunthorpe) 9 8th James Cockle (Scunthorpe and Sheffield) 8 9th Richie Dennis (Scunthorpe) 8 10th Sean Stoddart (Boston and Newcastle) 7 11th Simon Lambert (Boston) 5 12th Kriss Irving (Stoke) 4 13th Gary Beaton (Cleveland) 3 14th Jerran Hart (no club) 2 15th Darren Mallett (Boston) 1 16th Charles Wright (Workington) 0 Ben Hannon (reserve - no club) 2 But I can't find the Heat by Heat results. Edited April 16, 2007 by Mildenhall 07' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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