Mark Loram

[jawa/gm]

lets hope he gets the job ,IF he stops riding .that will put the GREAT back into british speedway.your veiws on what we could do

Edited April 5, 2007 by jawa/gm

[Saint Rob]

lets hope he gets the job ,IF he stops riding .that will put the GREAT back into british speedway.your veiws on what we could do

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Bit premature isn't it???? Don't think will make much difference to the way the national team rides tbh

[CMV06]

Anything is better than Middlo the Didlo!!!

[SCB]

Anything is better than Middlo the Didlo!!!

Even Mark Loram a rider who has probably never managed before? By all means have him in the pits for his knowledge and experience but Team GB need someone who is tactically astute.

 

The Aussies always have half of Australia in the pits, there nothing to stop Team GB doing that with Loram, Havvy, Floppy and even some of the lower order Brits helping out. Doesn't make them all team mangers though.

[Cheekee Raylee Monkee]

I have all the time in the world for Mark and am so sorry to see him injured again.

 

But Mark is such a quiet, nice guy that I think that even he would not describe himself as a leader in the way that an effective manager needs to be. I do think that his knowledge should be tapped into and he seems such a popular guy with the other riders I am sure that they - especially the younger ones would heed his advice (except about gating !!) and encouragement.

[Subedei]

But Team GB need someone who is tactically astute.

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You mean like someone who puts Bjarne Pedersen out for a TR when he's got Jason Crump in his team?

[SCB]

I mean not Middlo!

[tigerblues]

Doesn't matter who the manager is, we still simply do not have enough Brits coming through to put out a GB team that can win the world cup.

[shazzybird]

I mean not Middlo!

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Why do you dislike Middlo so much SCB? If they thought there was someone better they'd be offered the job wouldn't they

[Sandie]

Why do you dislike Middlo so much SCB?    If they thought there was someone better they'd be offered the job wouldn't they 

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I think you have taken that out of context.

 

If you read back SCB said why Mark shouldnt be the NEXT team manager (no managerial experience but would be good with moral).

 

Sube then made a negative comment about Middlo by his post, and SCB was pointing out that they werent discussing Middlo but the Next manager.

Or something like that.

 

Anyhow thats the way I read it - Dont know whether he does or doesnt like Middlo but I dont think that post meant - NO to Middlo.

 

But no doubt he will have his say when he gets back from KL tonight

[shazzybird]

I wish I could think like you Sandie and understand what you said

[Starman2006]

Anything is better than Middlo the Didlo!!!

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Do yourself a favour, go and play with the traffic on the M4,

or take a long jump of a short pier!. Neil does a very good

job with the riders that he has at his disposal. And just in case

you haven't noticed because you can't see the light of day,

the future of British speedway is getting brighter and better

with some of the young lads coming through!.

Edited April 10, 2007 by Starman2006

[CMV06]

Why don't you take your head out of his a**e. The future of British Speedway may be bright but in my opinion that is despite him and not because of him.

 

And I can spell because, you fool!!!!

[Deano]

I agree with SCB, get him in the pits, let middlo be the tactician, Mark could help and give valuable advice to the youngsters while the seniors concentrate on trying to win.

Edited April 9, 2007 by Deano

[CMV06]

I don't think Middlo is that great tactically (I'm going by the use of the Jokers in the last World Cup). I do think that having a manager and a couple of former riders in the pits would be the way forward though. Everyone else seems to do it.

[Starman2006]

Why don't you take your head out of his a**e. The future of British Speedway may be bright but in my opinion that is despite him and not because of him.

 

And I can spell because, you fool!!!!

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I haven't got my head up his wotnot as you put it, im mearly

making a point, Neil can only do with what riders he has at his

disposal, just the same as you can't turn selling plate racehorses

in to Derby winners!. We have a base of riders who are still capable

of holding there own on the world stage, and eventually there will be

a crossover, where the old guard will start to drop out, and the kids

hopefully, will start to show enough to take their places, as Bomber

Harris showed in last years world cup. As for Mark Loram taking over the

team manager mantle, that is still all up in the air, as nobody knows if Mark

will continue to ride or retire, and im sure that Mark doesn't know himself

yet!. But maybe Neil could do with a righthand man, if i had to recomend

somebody other than Mark, then Havvy would have to be high on the list!!.

And yes, i can spell Because, that was a technical error!.

Edited April 9, 2007 by Starman2006

[CMV06]

I can't knock the man for his passion and yes, people can only work with what they have but I'm just not sure that he is neccessarily the man for the job. I hope he proves me wrong (as a GB supporter)

 

Sorry for any offence caused by my previous post.

Edited April 9, 2007 by CMV06

[SCB]

Why do you dislike Middlo so much SCB? 

I don't dislike Middlo, I just think there's better options (named them loads of times, look back).

 

Liking someone does not make them good or disliking someone make them bad, I don't liek Nicki Pedersen, he's still a good rider, I like Craig Watson but he's never going to eb World Champion, he'll probably never ride in a GP but so what? Lkeing/not liking someone does not cloud my judgement when I asses how good/bad they are, at least I hope it doesnt.

 

How often has Middlo messed up th tactics at the SWC? Probably every year, thats not good enough really, you can accept a mistake every few years but at the highest level you need someone who doesn't get it wrong.

[Starman2006]

I don't dislike Middlo, I just think there's better options (named them loads of times, look back).

 

Liking someone does not make them good or disliking someone make them bad, I don't liek Nicki Pedersen, he's still a good rider, I like Craig Watson but he's never going to eb World Champion, he'll probably never ride in a GP but so what?  Lkeing/not liking someone does not cloud my judgement when I asses how good/bad they are, at least I hope it doesnt.

 

How often has Middlo messed up th tactics at the SWC?  Probably every year, thats not good enough really, you can accept a mistake every few years but at the highest level you need someone who doesn't get it wrong.

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Then if you say someone can do a better job name them?. SCB why don't you

get your clipboard out and stop watch and see if you can do a better job.

Neil is only human, and know doubt others would also make miatakes, you

have to make split second decisions and in the heat of the moment that is

not easy, its ok us standing on the terraces screaming put so an so in

but i defiy you to tell me that nobody else wouldn't make any mistakes!!.

its not an easy job for any team manager, never mind being manager of the

National side!!.

[MattK]

Someone feel free to correct my frightening naivety, but how much "tactics" are involved in the World Cup? You pick five riders, who to all intents and purpose pick themselves, you decide on an order and you send them out.

 

If you need to "motivate" any of these riders to represent their country in the World Cup, then I'd suggest you've picked the wrong rider.

 

Maybe I'm under egging it a little bit, but come on!

 

Personally, I think Neil Middleditch does an acceptable job with the riders he has available.

 

Before castrating Middlo, or indeed naming a successor, I would ask "what would you do differently?".